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Offline Millie2

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Need some help with 3.5 month old
« on: March 08, 2007, 22:51:07 pm »
My DS has become a nightmare and I need some tips to help me get our family back on track! 

At the moment our days look like this:

7am - E (breastfed)
8.30 - S
9.30 - Wakes
10am - E
11am - S
12pm - Wakes.  I always try to get him back to sleep as he used to sleep a good 2.5 - 3 hours at this time. 
12.30 - E (I feed him in desperation to get him back to sleep but it never works!)
2.30 - S
3.30 - Wakes
4pm - E
5pm - E (baby rice)
6pm - Bath
6.30 - top up feed and into bed by 7
10pm - dreamfeed
2am - E
4am - wakes and needs to be resettled (DH does this one as otherwise I'd wind up feeding him again)
5-6am - E (if he wakes and DH can't resettle him)

I've just been diagnosed with PND which helps explain why I've let this situation get so out of control!  I just can't stand to hear him cry and don't have the patience to do shush/pat to get him to sleep or back to sleep so will feed him or cuddle him to sleep, etc all of which is totally detrimental in the long term!  I know the PND will improve if I can get him back into a proper routine so I need some tips on how to do it.
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Re: Need some help with 3.5 month old
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2007, 00:43:11 am »
From my experience it helps me to keep the Activity time consistent throughout the day and if it changes at all I change it on the shorter end.  2 hours is about the max that MOST (not all) babies can happily be awake at this age.  It seems that your son has 1.5 hours in the morning (7-8:30) then 1.5 again....then it goes to 2.5 (12-2:30) then 3.5 (3:30-7). By the end of the day he might be overtired and not want to be awake that long. You might want to try and keep to about two hours throughout the day and see if it helps you at all.  Naps are not always going to be 2-3 hours and if he is getting solid 1 hour naps then that might be all he needs.  How is he waking up?? Once you get him up after one of these naps is he happy to play until the next sleep time??
He might need another little catnap in there around 5:30 or so until either he extends some of the other naps or extends his wake time a bit so that he can make it to bedtime. If you are getting hour long naps maybe you could try:
7wake
8:30-9:30 nap
11:30-12:30 nap
2:30-3:30 nap
5:30-6 nap (even if you have to wake him to protect bedtime)
7 Bed

Or....
6 wake
8 -9 nap
11-12 nap
2-3 nap
5 catnap
6:30 bed



Hang in there, I know it is so hard sometimes.  Your schedule doesn't look  bad at all so try not to lose perspective.  There is NO perfect routine and very few babies are going to follow the perscribed schedule.  Remember some very healthy babies need to eat at night until they are 9 months old.  They are just plain hungry!  Some babies are short nappers.  The most important thing to look at is if your son is content. If he is miserable and tired all of the time then ok,  you might need to work to make some changes.  But if he seems happy then you just have to go with it.  You have to find what works for him and use other schedules as a guide and not the law.  After all he is only 3 months old, give him and YOURSELF a break.  This mommy stuff is hard so go easy on yourself.  You are not out of control!!  Your baby will never be worse off if you have to cuddle him or rock him to sleep in order to get some rest.  When you feel better then tackle the sleep training.   Or work on one nap a day.  Gear up for that one nap with trying to get him so sleep independently or trying to extend.  But set a time limit for yourself if you have.  Say do it for 30 mins and if you are miserable after that time, take it easy and attempt again tomorrow.  Just enjoy him right now and work on getting yourself better. I promise it will get easier and it goes sooo fast!! Sooner than you think you will have a little toddler on your hands giving you different sorts of troubles ;D ::)

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Re: Need some help with 3.5 month old
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2007, 02:07:11 am »
Thanks for that!  Funnily enough today I managed to get him to resettle during his midday sleep (twice) so he wound up having 2.5 hours and was much happier afterwards!

I usually know whether he wants to be awake after a nap or not because of how he wakes up.  If he wakes talking and happy then I know he's slept enough but during his midday sleep he wakes crying and struggles to open his eyes.  I just know that he wants longer but it is so hard to get him back to sleep!

As to his awake time, he can't stay up any longer then 1.5 hours first thing in the morning but then is usually better able to stay up.  My DD was the same - had to have a nap early but then could be awake for longer periods.

I've only just this week stopped putting him down for an afternoon nap.  When he was "good" he had his morning nap (1 hour), midday (2 - 2.5 hours) and afternoon (1 hour) but it got to the point where he would just scream and scream the whole time while I was trying to get him to sleep that I just gave up.  However, I think I may need to reintroduce it and see how we go, especially since he isn't having a long midday sleep.  He seems to be okay without it though - seems a little tired and cranky but then perks up at bathtime.
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