Author Topic: solids - when to start?  (Read 2091 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Wink's Marmy

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 16
  • Gender: Female
  • Posts: 628
  • Silly girl
  • Location: Lost in America
solids - when to start?
« on: March 13, 2007, 04:04:13 am »
OK, so I know that the common understanding is that you can start your baby on solids between 4-6 months. Today our Dr. told me I could now start rice cereal/semi solids like sweet potatoes. I'm not planning on it yet as DD seems to be doing fine on just BM for now. Could someone please give me info/links on why you should delay starting on solids at just 4 mo. And also, how do you know when to start.

Thanks

Jen



Offline Samuel's mum

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 764
  • Gender: Female
  • Posts: 10636
  • Emma in London, UK
  • Location: London, UK
Re: solids - when to start?
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2007, 10:32:58 am »
I'm actually extremely surprised you were given that advice. Really quite surprised. Up until around 3 years ago 4 months was the general recommendation. Then after considering some new research on the benefits of exclusive breastfeeding up until 6 months and the link between early solids and allergies the advice was pretty much universally changed to 6 months. So he is even early for the older 4 month recommendation - he's super-early for the new recommendations. Is his surname Heinz by any chance? Actually I'm being silly as even the food manufacturers now acknowledge the 6 months recommendation.

When I say 'the advice' has changed - I mean the official recommendation of
World Health Organisation,
UNICEF
US Department of Health & Human Services
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Academy of Family Physicians
American Dietetic Association
Australian National Health and Medical Research Council
Royal Australian College of General Practitioners
Health Canada
National Health Service in the UK

I'd imagine your chap has links with one of these organizations. It's taken a while to attitudes to change - 'surely babies aren't being satisfied by milk, but that baby wants to put things in her mouth etc'. But the message is getting through in most cases.

There are exceptions to the 6 month rule - like a baby with specific medical issues or a severe case of reflux where solids might be beneficial. But these are exceptions. 6 months is now the recommendation.

The days of 'looking for signs of readiness' (e.g. my baby can sit, he's eyeing up my sandwich) come from the days when we were looking to get in there with a spoon. Now it's more of a case of 'sorry mate, you need to hang on to 6 months'. I started a week before 6 months. I was too keen to get started! Next time I'd probably hang on a bit longer after all that I've read.


http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/solids/delay-solids.html has all the health organisation links.

AAP:
Quote (selected)
Exclusive breastfeeding is ideal nutrition and sufficient to support optimal growth and development for approximately the first 6 months after birth.100 Infants weaned before 12 months of age should not receive cow's milk feedings but should receive iron-fortified infant formula.101 Gradual introduction of iron-enriched solid foods in the second half of the first year should complement the breast milk diet.102,103 It is recommended that breastfeeding continue for at least 12 months, and thereafter for as long as mutually desired.104

UK National Health Service site:
Quote (selected)
Food is often a source of worry to parents, with questions such as when to start introducing solid foods, what foods to begin with, and whether your baby will like it. Breast milk or formula milk provides all the nutrition that babies need for the first six months. Their stomachs can't digest other foods properly until this age. After this time, it's a good idea to start slowly introducing solids alongside milk, as your baby will start to need iron and other nutrients, and will also benefit from the different textures and tastes. By the age of 12 months they can be joining in with family meals.
http://www.nhsdirect.com/articles/article.aspx?articleId=664&PrintPage=1

So your instincts were right. And I'm a bit curious as to why your doctor feels these recommendations are worth contradicting. :-\
<img src="http://b5.lilypie.com/vpkWp1.png" alt="Lilypie 5th Birthday Ticker" border="0"  />
<img src="http://b1.lilypie.com/iPGj0.png" alt="Lilypie 1st Birthday Ticker" border="0"  />

Offline Samuel's mum

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 764
  • Gender: Female
  • Posts: 10636
  • Emma in London, UK
  • Location: London, UK
Re: solids - when to start?
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2007, 10:33:42 am »
and now I better move this to the solids board...

 :)
<img src="http://b5.lilypie.com/vpkWp1.png" alt="Lilypie 5th Birthday Ticker" border="0"  />
<img src="http://b1.lilypie.com/iPGj0.png" alt="Lilypie 1st Birthday Ticker" border="0"  />

Offline Wink's Marmy

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 16
  • Gender: Female
  • Posts: 628
  • Silly girl
  • Location: Lost in America
Re: solids - when to start?
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2007, 18:05:12 pm »
Thanks Emma. I am glad for all the info you have passed on. What would I do without you & this site?   :D

I actually forgot there was a solids board...

Here is the thing about my Dr. (Dr. Heinz  ;)), he is kind of old. I don't mean like in his nineties, but he's been doing this a long time. I have found in my experience of seeing Dr.'s that (most often) its the older ones who are set in their ways and tend to slowly accept new research. Anyway, I really like him and don't want to change over that. I also have a firm belief that you have to do your own research (or get Emma to do it for you  ;)) and not rely on one medical person for everything. I have a brother who is TODAY finding out where he will spend his Dr. in residency program in pediatrics and I use him too as he is fresh out of med school. Not that age should be a factor in staying current. Oh, and you have to consider where I live too. Memphis, TN, not the most progressive place AND (U.S.) Southerners are some of the most stubborn people you will ever meet when it comes to change. Although I am Southern, I am really a stranger in a strange land here (by nature) BTW... You live in London, right? I lived there for a summer. It was the best summer of my life. I LOVE it there. Anyway, getting really off track now...

I am totally going to wait. I have food allergies myself and would hate for DD to have to go through that!!

Thanks a ton!



Offline Samuel's mum

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 764
  • Gender: Female
  • Posts: 10636
  • Emma in London, UK
  • Location: London, UK
Re: solids - when to start?
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2007, 19:23:31 pm »
Do some research for yourself too of course. I could be a pathological liar or something. Your brother sounds very useful - I'd be curious to know what his training says on the subject.

We have health visitors and doctors in London who are also not fully informed about the changes - it just takes some time.

and with a family history of allergies - extra important to hang on.

 :-*
<img src="http://b5.lilypie.com/vpkWp1.png" alt="Lilypie 5th Birthday Ticker" border="0"  />
<img src="http://b1.lilypie.com/iPGj0.png" alt="Lilypie 1st Birthday Ticker" border="0"  />

frustratedmommy

  • Guest
Re: solids - when to start?
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2007, 19:32:11 pm »
Just wanted to add! My DS is only 23 months...TODAY in fact! and we were told to start him at 4 months...since then I've had DD and we were told 6 months.

In fact my best friend who's DD is almost 9 months was told 4 as well. She started doing the research herself and found "everyone" is now saying 6.

Needless to say I did just start DD on solids. I didn't have a problem starting DS right at 4 months but I think the new research makes sense....

Amazing what can change in 17 months !

frustratedmommy

  • Guest
Re: solids - when to start?
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2007, 19:33:42 pm »
also...strangely enough from the time I got preggo with DS to the time of his birth...the introduction of Cow's milk was changed (in my area at least)...from 9 months to a full year...

Again pays to do a little checking of your own, especially with history of allergies!

binxyboo

  • Guest
Re: solids - when to start?
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2007, 19:34:17 pm »
jenbarr~ does your lo really look so happy after a good nap? How precious is that??

Offline Wink's Marmy

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 16
  • Gender: Female
  • Posts: 628
  • Silly girl
  • Location: Lost in America
Re: solids - when to start?
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2007, 21:03:49 pm »
Yes, she is a huge smiler  :D when she's had a good nap & now when she wakes in the morning too. Its so funny. We walk into her room and she will smile like that for a few minutes.

Mind you, she is somewhat spirited, so she shows disdain as strongly as she shows pleasure. She can shatter glass when she gets upset!  :o

Just like her Mom... its one extreme or the other!  ;)

We were hoping she would get Dad's personality - cool as a cat - but hey, both personality types have their negative sides. Mellow people can be boring sometimes!  ;D



Offline peaches32m

  • New & Learning The Ropes!
  • *
  • Showing Appreciation 0
  • Gender: Female
  • Posts: 2
  • Location:
Re: solids - when to start?
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2007, 02:03:05 am »
jen,
its me your neighbor.  We started Libby on cereal once a day at 5 months, which was also the same time I weaned her.  It took her a long time to like her solids, but now she does.  We just can't seem to get her to eat any finger foods.  I love seeing your name and posts on here.  It makes it seem like a small world.

Offline Wink's Marmy

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 16
  • Gender: Female
  • Posts: 628
  • Silly girl
  • Location: Lost in America
Re: solids - when to start?
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2007, 02:13:43 am »
Kelly - Thanks for the info on solids! 

How funny that you responded to my post (for the rest of the ladies here - we are neighbors & friends from college)

I have got to get out of this house, so any stroller walks you & Lauren or just you & Libby go on, I am game!

Will you email your cell to me? I never put it in my phone.



Offline Ami ~ 3 girls' mom

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 70
  • Gender: Female
  • Posts: 1113
  • Location: SW Oklahoma

Offline Aly Mac

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 162
  • Gender: Female
  • Posts: 6339
  • Such joy!
  • Location: Brisbane, Australia
Re: solids - when to start?
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2007, 03:00:13 am »
As usual Jen, you always ask the question that I was thinking.   :P Must be because our lo's are around the same age.

Great info ladies - I will give to my MIL, Mother, SIL Mother and every other person over the age of 50 who tells me that 6months is hogwash and that waiting 12months for cow's milk is hogwash.  My mother gave me custard from 6 weeks (yes weeks.... could explain the weight problem ::)) and of course cow's milk from around 4months.  "and you turned out allright!"  I know they mean well, but it can really screw you up.

Jen as usual your little Winnie Kate is precious  8)
Aleesa.....