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Nwings, 20 months
« on: July 18, 2007, 19:22:45 pm »
Hello all!

Ok, so David (almost 20 months) and I are back from our vacations lasting almost 6 weeks! 

Now that we are back I really want to work on the NWings...

Day one of our return I implemented a new paci rule, only in bed and I don't touch.  Well that has been so difficult, I can't imagine taking them away.  Our bedtime routine is completely shot.  David doesn't want to sit and read or sing (which is what we used to do.)  He used to only have paci for bed, but got it at bedtime while we were winding down.  Now he wants to get into bed immediately without any sort of the routine just to get to his pacis.  The couple of times I have let him go straight to bed, the lack of wind down has brought on 1 or 2 WI.  Should I let him get his paci for wind down or try to stick this out??  Then there were the NWing's...  Before when he woke at night, I would replug  :-[ , it was just easy I guess.  Now that I have started this with the pacis, I am helping him by grabbing his arm find one, but as the days are going on, it seems to be getting worse, he wants more assistance...  I thought at first I was showing him what to do, but it isn't going in that direction...  Should I just bite the bullet and not touch at all, doing WI/WO until he gets it, knowing that it is going to be a long night, if not a long few nights?

David's has slept through the night a handful of time, so I think it can be done, we just have to get there again.  On a good night he will wake on average 3 times requiring only 1 WI, bad nights have many more and can last much longer.  The nice thing about the good nights is that he is sleeping until 7 or 7:30, which is what our goal is!  I think part of my problem is going in too quickly to avoid a longer wake up time.  If it is before my bedtime I try to wait to see if he is just crying out in his sleep, but one I have gone to sleep, I don't always remember to do that. 

Will rocking the boat help or hurt?  Do you think we can get to no NWing's?  I feel like I have forgotten everything while I was gone...  I think I just need some help...  ::)
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Re: Nwings, 20 months
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2007, 19:35:28 pm »
i can't really see the problem with him having the paci for the winddown if you are going to let him have it for sleep.i think its either a case of completely getting rid of them or just for sleep as you are now.
i know when sasha has had NWs a lot of it carrying on so long was the way we dealt with them (too much attention etc) and not being consistent.so really me and DH had to agree on a way to deal with them and do it the same way.
is it pos to see his routine at all.
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Re: Nwings, 20 months
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2007, 19:46:53 pm »
Andrea, Thanks for the quick response.  My DH thought if we went back to giving paci for wind down that might be regressing and sending the wrong message.  ???
Our routine is:
Wake 7-7:30 (sometimes)
Nap 12-12:30
Bedtime 7-7:30
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Re: Nwings, 20 months
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2007, 00:21:54 am »
Hey Stacy!  You are right, I was thinking of weaning, but I chickened out as I got closer to coming back and thought, huh, alternative...  My thought was if I could keep it down to only him then the 1) it wouldn't be a cause of NWing's and 2) once he was a bit older and understood better, it might be easier to do the wean...    Yea, totally chickened.

I know David was very dependent on me in the past for sleep, but he has really come a long way.  And even tonight, I had decided not to give the paci back for wind down until I at least discussed it with DH (who is oncall and gone), and tonight he did so much better.  He understood that he was going to get to bed and get what he wanted but he did want to read the book and sing a song (I asked before each activity.)  And after that I put in bed said good night and out I went...   You might be right, though, paci weaning may be my only way to get rid of all NWings...  something to reconsider for sure...

As the day has progressed my previous nerves of steel have left and a tired Momma is here now wondering if maybe tonight will be better?? 
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Re: Nwings, 20 months
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2007, 18:13:29 pm »
It's the paci, I know it is... :-[   But I also think teeth are coming back into play here, he is getting upper and lower eye teeth.  Last night he woke 4 times and one of them need 5 WIs.  I think David got mad on the first walk in b/c I wouldn't put the paci in his mouth. 

Oh, I need to fix something, but I know there will be a major disruption...  I have to build myself up to do it (and figure out what I am going to do too...   ::) )
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Re: Nwings, 20 months
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2007, 21:27:47 pm »
i know we are going to have to wean the paci from Sasha one day and i'm not really looking forward to it :P. She has it exclusively for sleep and knows when shes awake then its no paci.
she is able to put it in her self if she wakes at night so we don't have the problem of replugging.
i have heard that once they no longer need the paci for sleep they really lose interest in them completely and tend to sleep better without them.
but i agree that you have to be ready yourself to wean the paci.i know i'm not ready yet as i'd cave in after 5 mins (lol)
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Re: Nwings, 20 months
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2007, 00:15:51 am »
Thanks Andrea, it does help, just to hear others dread it as much as I do...  But I do have the replugging issue, that's what I need to think about and see if David can transition to doing it himself (that's how he'll get to keep it longer.) 

Sleeping is work!!!   ::)
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Re: Nwings, 20 months
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2007, 17:40:42 pm »
You were smart Stacy, when you saw the problem start, you fixed it... 

At this point, David is totally addicted.  Taking the paci's only to bed showed that, he freaked.  I just don't know how to do it?  Most of the ones I have seen have been older and understand a bit more to know that it's not coming back and that it is leaving.  I pushed the paci to keep him from sucking fingers (I was an extreme, 16 years was about when I stopped and I didn't want my child to do that...) 

Last night wasn't great, we had at least one WU prior, but starting at 3:30 there were 15-20 min between WI until about 5.  We both woke this morning too tired!  He didn't need any repluggin, already had the paci when I went in... I gave him tylenol for teeth before bed, maybe that was what caused it?  Or maybe it was just teeth.  There is no telling, it's exhausting just trying to figure this out!
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Re: Nwings, 20 months
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2007, 17:37:03 pm »
Good plan, one step at a time.  I am certain teeth are playing a role now.  We have added the runny nose to it too, he always gets this runny nose with new teeth, so frustrating!  The weekend wasn't great with sleep, but it wasn't horrible either.  David's been crying out a lot in his sleep, not requiring me to go in, just crying out and then nothing more...  not sure if that's dreams or pain from teeth.  He's done it minimally in the past, but it's been a lot over the last few nights. 

Maybe we'll work on getting through teeth stuff and reassess??   ::) 
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Re: Nwings, 20 months
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2007, 18:05:35 pm »
You're right Stacy.  Last night was horrible and I just can't wait.  There's no telling when the teeth are actually going to come in... 

I just need to get up the nerve and start working on NWing's seriously, knowing that I am going to loose some sleep, but that it will ultimately lead me to sleep...

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