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SLEEP => Sleeping For Toddlers => Topic started by: katie80 on November 06, 2012, 20:18:39 pm
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We are in such a mess (all of us, the whole family, LOL, not really). Ok, you can see I'm tired, I can't even type a proper message. :P
DS is 15mo, still on two naps (30min CN, 1.5-2hr pm nap), and cutting is last molar and top two eye teeth. We travelled two weekends ago to visit ILs and that's kinda where the trouble started. On the way home he took a 1:45hr nap and then I didn't get him down for a pm CN. My mom was watched him that evening, but also couldn't get him down (has never happened to her) for EBT. So, starting then he was a bit OT. Tried to catch up for a couple days and I was also trying to push him out for the end of DST, but I think that was too much at once. On Halloween he was up a bit late again, and the EW started. So, for two mornings before the time change, he was up at 5:30-5:45. And of course on Sat, he did a short pm nap of 1hr (teeth, I think because nothing else was different) and we had a birthday party for our niece that afternoon, so couldn't do much of an EBT (not that I really wanted to anyway). So, for the last 3 mornings we've been up from 4:20-4:45 (I've gotten him to doze a bit by BFing him and holding him, but the minute I go to lay him back down he wakes like it's morning). Also, his naps have dwindled to 30min in the morning and only 1-1:10 in the afternoon. Nights are about 10-10.25hr.
Today is the worst, as he fell asleep on the way to drop DD off at preschool at 8:20am! I let him sleep 40min before our mom's group at church. Then, we went to vote and he fell asleep on the way home again at 11:55am and slept 30min. So, I'm going to try to take him for another drive at about 3 and hope for I don't know what. I was thinking an hour and put him down for 7pm, which is a terribly long day, but in the hopes of 10-10.5hr, then we'll be at 5-5:30, which is progress. ::) Or do only 30min again and put him down for 6:30. ??? Either way, I'm not expecting much and will likely be back in the same hole in the morning.
We don't really have anything for the rest of the week, so I need a plan to get him out! His routine before this looked like...
W 6:30 am
S 10-10:30 am
S 1:30-3 or 3:30 pm
BT 7-7:30 pm
Can I let him do 45min in the morning and then a bit longer A in between to try to catch him up or what? Something like...
W 4:45-5 am
S 9-9:45 am
S 1-2:30 or 3 pm
BT 6:30 pm
I really have no clue. :-\. With Claire, I would AP her an hr in the morning an hr in the afternoon and she would right herself after a few days. I've never been in this position with Graham and obviously nothing is working yet.
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Hi Katie, ugh :P (Hugs) Hun. It just takes one bad thing to springboard off and then it gets on a roll sometimes ::). I have BTDT with Sam and 4.30 WU's. He was still on 2 naps at the time and he would not EVER go back over even though I tried to treat it like a NW so I was able to do this to get him out of the loop.
WU 4.30
Nap 6.30 to 7.15
I was able to get him down for a nap as early as 2 to 2.5 hours after WU because he was hanging :P due to short nights and OT. Then after the above I treat 7.15 as if it were his WU time and carried on the day as we usually would have. Of course you'll probably worry that as 4.30 is actually the WU time then the day will be crazy long. But for us it worked and it got us to a good BT which in turn got us to a good WU time which on day 2 went past 4.30 to around 6 am, so it worked really quickly. I always remember this incident because I did it off my own back without any advise so I was super chuffed it worked LOL ::)
I hope it can work for you too :-\.
WRT your suggested routine, it looks okay to me Hun as long as when really OT he will manage 3.15 to the 2nd nap after only 45 mins ??? if not you may get 2nd nap refusal which would leave you 'Up s**t creek without a paddle' :-\ KWIM ??? You know him best ;)
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Hugs xx No BTDT really... except when I did one nap and a super EBT - shifts the EW so early it has to be a NW. You know I'm a fan but as Vicki says, you know G best :)
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for us the key in these situations...and we have been in them a lot (!!) is to keep the day to 13 hours MAX so really if he is up at 5am then BT for 6pm.
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for us the key in these situations...and we have been in them a lot (!!) is to keep the day to 13 hours MAX so really if he is up at 5am then BT for 6pm.
This is what I would usually say too Becky, but with the 4.30 WU's it's so darn early we would get stuck with a 5.30 BT and another 4.30 WU, so something had to give YK ::) There was no tacking going on at that time.
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well yes.....M does not tack terribly well, I guess it is a judgement call based on what your lo can handle. I have my mod hat on so that is what I would suggest BUT we don;t do BT earlier than 6pm for just the reason you describe.
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LOL, I want a hat! ;) It worked for Sam, so what can I say. There's always a risk it will seriously back fire for someone else, as with everything :-X LOL.
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LOL, I want a hat!
ha ha, it is seriously 'off' when it comes to my own baby, that's for sure!
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ha ha, it is seriously 'off' when it comes to my own baby, that's for sure!
Hmm I hear you Sister! ;)
How is it going Katie ??? any joy ???
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Thanks for your replies, ladies. :-*
I always remember this incident because I did it off my own back without any advise so I was super chuffed it worked LOL ::)
Ha, I love it when that happens! ;D
except when I did one nap and a super EBT - shifts the EW so early it has to be a NW
Yeah, unfortunately lately when I've done a one nap day he's only slept about 1:10 and that's just not going to help anything. :P
Ok, I agree with the 13hr day too, but it seems so daunting to put him down at 5:30pm (besides the argument that would follow with DH ::)) as I think he's mostly waking due to teeth and just that it's close to morning for his body (well, the old morning) so he's not going back to sleep. Of course, he's also OT.
He did about 1hr in the car yesterday from 3-4pm and went to bed no fuss at 7pm. Woke at 4:30 again, I nursed him and put him down semi-awake. He sucked his thumb and had a hard time settling, so I had to go back in and sit by him until about 5am. He then slept restlessly and woke at 5:30.
Day looked like this...
A 5/5:30 am
S 9-9:45 am
S 1-2:40 pm
So, bedtime at 6:30 pm? Although I know he's OT, there's a little voice in the back of my head wondering if this is too much daytime sleep spread out for a 15mo old and I have no hope of getting much more than a 10.5hr night anyway. ??? He was doing 11-11.5hr on close to that same routine (30min am nap) a week or two ago though, so I think it should be right.
His bottom molar is a bit bloody today, but much of the outside has cut through, so hopefully the inside part will finish in the next couple days. Those stupid eye teeth have about .5mm poking through the top, though. Ugh, we're going on month 4 of these big teeth. I'm ready for a break!
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LOL, super EBT for us was DS in bed asleep at 4:30... he woke after 10hr like clockwork, but being at 2:30, it was too dark for him to think it was day and he did go back to sleep and slept til 7 :) 14hr sleep, 14.5hr night and he was better after that but yeah, DH was unimpressed with the idea of BT at 4:30 - couldn't argue though because he was already in bed asleep when he got home from work ;) and he stayed asleep til 2:30.
These teeth have so much to answer for! Hugs, my friend, you will get a break... nice if it was now, but it will happen some day :-*
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our days looked almost identical at 15 months BUT we capped at 30 mins max in the am and then did a 1.5 in the pm so about 2 hours day sleep.....
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Hey Katie, one of the hardest things when they're UTW is finding the right amount of day time sleep in order to preserve the night. Add to that NW and every time for us it is trial and error. IIW Sam at that age then I probably would have allowed an extra 15 mins so 2 hours 15 max. If SEBT isn't an option then it has to be enough to get him through to later :-\
Good Luck Hun.x.
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LOL, super EBT for us was DS in bed asleep at 4:30... he woke after 10hr like clockwork, but being at 2:30, it was too dark for him to think it was day and he did go back to sleep and slept til 7
Oh, you're so brave, Bec! :) LOL at it being dark out. It's dark out from 5:45pm-7am here now, you'd think there would be lots of reason for him to sleep still at 4:30am.
So, we're getting better. Still woke at 4:45am this morning, but I nursed him, and put him back down and he slept much more soundly until almost 6am, which means the OT must be wearing off. Now to just get rid of that darn feed. :P Think I might be waiting until the eye teeth are a little more through. ::)
I decided since the night was better to go back to 30min CN this morning, so he's done:
W 5:55 am
S 9:35-10:05 am
S 1:00- ?? (still sleeping at 2:40, so BT will be between 6:30 and 7)
Which means hopefully we're back on track. Phew! Claire had some EW in her day, but only one ever in the 4s. I was feeling a bit rattled at the beginning of the week, but much better now. Thanks again, girls! :-* :-*
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Hi Katie, sorry this is late Hun :( what time did you do nap 2 in the end ??? does he last 3 hours on a 30 min nap ??? I know some LO's do but others only last 2.5 hours :-\ Really hope today is the springboard back to a decent later BT. How long was nap 2 ???
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Yes, Vicki he can handle 3hr after 30min nap, but not if the A time before the 30min nap goes over 3:30-3:40 it seems. He did 2hr yesterday pm and went to bed perfect for DH at 7pm. Was up at about 5:45 and that's where I don't really know if it's teeth or that's all he needs after 2 naps like that. ???
He's obviously more tired than I realize though, because my mom had him today and let him do 45min am. She hates to wake him up. :P. Then, DH came home for lunch (I was gone for the day) and apparently G looked really tired, so he put him down after just 2.25hr. ??? He slept 1.5hr which is fine, but means I'm putting him to bed a bit earlier again tonight because it ended early. Oh well, at least we're sort of back on track.
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we seem to be in very similar situations katie!
M actually does 3.5 after a 30 min am nap if she is well rested and 3 on a 20 min nap but like G yesterday she only managed 2.5 due to a long am A time. I SO want to get to 1 nap now but it feels so hard....
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I SO want to get to 1 nap now but it feels so hard....
I do too, but 2 naps actually work better with Claire's preschool run, so I think I might eat my words when it comes down to it. :P
Night was fine, no different than any other. Had him down at 6:30, unsettled sleep starting at about 4:30, fed in there once, and he slept til 6. Will keep plugging along. :)
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Hey Hun, glad he is sleeping quite well. I guess the only way to know if day is robbing night is to cut back the 2nd nap by 5 mins and go carefully. It's frustrating as they get older than even when OT or even ill you can't just let them sleep on.
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Ok, great advice Vicki. His afternoon sleep right now is a bit inconsistent. Some days it will be 1.5-2hr, some days only 1hr and it doesn't seem to make a difference to the morning. I do notice the bottom eye teeth just about to break the surface now and am really hoping they make their way through faster than the molars. Then, hopefully I'll be able to see things more clear. He just seems tired all the time right now no matter how much he naps or sleeps at night. :-\
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Darn teeth, they mess everything up and they definitely cloud your judgement cos it's so hard to know what's truly going on. Good Luck Hun, with teeth breaking I would definitely go carefully and slowly if cutting back.
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are things still on the way up Katie?
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Eh, I don't know... I think if he gets about 2:15 day sleep, he'll do an 11hr night uninterrupted, but that's still leaving me with BT at 6:45-7 and WU at 5:45-6. Which is fine, but I was kinda hoping to get it back to 6:30-7, in preparation for going to one nap. I got stuck in the 2-1 last time with Claire waking at around 6 am, and it seems harder that way (I know I'm being picky here :-[). I think we're just at the point where more day sleep to push him out doesn't help, but I don't know how else to get him to a later wake. If I push only BT on the same amount of day sleep he does a shorter, presumably OT night. If I push the A times too much between naps, he does a shorter pm nap. He must be a little OT still or just a bit touchy with the teeth. ???
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just sounds like here to me before we hit this exceptionally rough patch....
The only way I could push BT with M on 2 naps was to let her have more like 2 hours in the pm if she would take it and then she could handle a later night, generally BT after 7pm produces a shorter night otherwise.
I am inclined to leave it for a week or so as he is doing a good night and a good nap total. Is he settling for naps and BT ok? If so I would go with it a little while but that is me and it could be because I want to be back there right now!!
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Hiya Hun, from the outside looking in I would stick with what you've got. I fear by trying to make it 'ideal' you could end up in another OT mess, so I'd stick with it, while things are possibly as good as it gets, for now KWIM ??? ;)
(Hug)
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I'd stick with it, while things are possibly as good as it gets, for now KWIM ??? ;)
Ha, yeah, I do kwym! He woke at 4:45 this morning, resettled til 5:30, but that was it. Argh, I just don't like being up that early (5:30 isn't so bad, but of course I don't fall back to sleep in between). I know his teeth are hurting because he cried out twice last night, once requiring me to go in at about 9:30pm, which has been pretty rare the last 3mo (I used to go in and resettle a lot ::)). But, he used to always go back easily in the early morning (with a BF, granted) and now he just doesn't. :-\
Is he settling for naps and BT ok?
Yes, always within 5-10min unless I'm a little late with BT, then it takes him longer. He rolls around for awhile before settling in.
I'll stick with what we've got so far and try to be patient. I know it took Claire a few weeks (possibly a whole month) to pull back to normal wake time after the time change at his age (heck, even at 4yrs, she's still not back to where she should be; that's a whole other post ::)), but I just don't know if it's only that with G or if there's more to it. I think I'm over analyzing things. :-[
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Ah bless you Hun. YK if you got both LOs to an 8 am WU you would no doubt be awake at 5am waiting........................ :o :o :o
;) YOu know it's true LOL.x.
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I think I'm over analyzing things.
oh me too!! That is a BW thing hun x
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LOL, Becky!! :D
YK if you got both LOs to an 8 am WU you would no doubt be awake at 5am waiting........................ :o :o :o
Oh yes, soooo true. I'd be down on the treadmill though, finally shedding these last few lbs. ::) I'd probably turn into a marathoner. ;) Who am I kidding, this will not happen until they're in middle school. Claire has slept past 7am only a handful of times in her life and once we even went to check on her to make sure she was ok (she was 3yr old!). ::) :P
But..... G made it til 6:45am this morning! It didn't come without a little NF and resettle at 4:45, but I was happy all the same. Last night was the first night I'd medicated in a week or so, so wondering if that made a difference. I'm not expecting it again right away, but hopeful we're getting somewhere.
Thanks, ladies! :-*
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Claire has slept past 7am only a handful of times in her life
henry too, he is a total 6/6.30am boy....
Glad you got a later wake up - makes for a happy mummy right?!
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Unfortunately, it was just the one day. :( We've been back to 5:45, 5:30, and today 5am (which I know was OT, because I didn't get him down in time last night). Grrr... this is just not going well. I def need to get rid of that early morning BF, because he's not going back to sleep after it and by the time he's done it's too late to even try. We're going away for the weekend, but next week I think we'll be done altogether. He's biting me hard at least once a day and Claire is asking for me to do BT with her, but since they're both going to bed early, I can't because I need to BF G first. I'm pretty sure part of the problem is that I don't have much milk left anyway. So... it's just time. Will put DH on duty for a weeks worth of BTs and might have him try the EW too, but I don't expect that to last long. I have much more stamina. ;)
Also, I need to start transitioning G to one nap ASAP. Claire is having to switch to the afternoon preschool class (I'm *not* happy about this, but it's a long story), so will be going from 12-2:30 (what bad timing, huh?). My mom is willing to help for some time, but I just can't ask for something three days a week. If I can get him to one nap, DH could come home for lunch and bring Claire and then we'd be able to go pick her up (that is, until DH starts travelling for work in Jan :P). Ugh, my head is spinning already. One step at a time.
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It does seem to be the perfect storm :( Sorry things are getting tricky.
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pre school is a nightmare with naps - I feel your pain!!!
Holding your hand xx
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5am again. Boo!
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FWIW I agree about getting rid of the am feed at this point xx
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Yes, will give that a try for a week or so and if still not better start tweaking away. :P. Can't believe we still have it, tbh, I've meant to ditch it so many times, but always had a 'reason' not to. There's no reason now really, but I am a bit nervous because I tried at 1yr when he just starting to get his molars and it didn't go well. He's been teething ever since and the darn bottom eye teeth are so close to coming through. Oh well, it's not working anyway, so no time like the present. ::)
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Ok, well we may be closer to one nap than I thought. One day last week when he woke at 5, I could only get a 20min CN in before he had a haircut and he slept for 2hr15min at 12:15. He then did almost a 12hr night (with a quick NF/resettle of course ::)). So, tonight's the night... DH will be doing BT and we'll settle without a feed in the early hours and go from there. His bottom eye teeth are cutting now, so I'm expecting it to be a little ugly, but we just can't wait it out anymore.
While he continues to EW, should I cut the am nap down to 20min and try the pm nap closer to noon, or stay with the 30 min am and longer pm?
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Run down of what's going on right now Hun ??? just in case I can be of any help. Sorry to ask for a recap I have a mashed up head right now ;)
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Sorry to ask for a recap I have a mashed up head right now ;)
No worries, I wondered if I should just start a new thread as I think the issue isn't the clock change anymore. Let me know if you girls want to be done with this one.
So... G is typically waking between 5-6am, doing a 30min CN and longer pm nap (1.5-2hr). I've been feeding in the wee hours as before the time change, this would always get him back to sleep and he's been teething molars and canines for 4mo now, so I haven't had the guts to stop. :-[ But, it's not working anymore, so we're getting rid of it. I also think that he's at the point where he's not really able to catch up from the EW, because he's having enough sleep spread out during the day to not really 'need' to sleep longer in the morning. I mean, he needs it because he's tired, but I think we might be in that old UT/OT loop. ::) So, I'm wondering if I should cut the CN to 20min in the morning and do a longer nap just 2.5hr later to try to mimic a one-nap day as much as possible while he continues to EW because of the habitual NF we're trying to get rid of. Or, should I just stick with the 30min CN, longer nap and see if the EW resolves on it's own without the feed? Does that even make sense? :-\ Because of C's preschool change, I'm eager to get him onto one nap as quick as I can.
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Hiya Hun, yes it makes sense, I'm with you. What is his overall sleep ATM ??? How long are his nights before he EW ??? I'm just thinking if they're on the short side W2S might be worth a shot to try and shift WU :-\ Sorry, I did register that you said you think he's having enough sleep, just thought it was worth asking.
Big (HUG)
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I would def cap to 20 min now Katie - that is what we did xx
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Yes, meant to say, I agree cutting down the 1st nap until it's gone may be the way to go if all else fails.x.
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Thanks, ladies. Unfortunately, I couldn't cap at 20min today as DH couldn't help with the preschool run and I didn't want G to fall asleep on the way home, because I'm not sure he would transfer. What a pain! ::) So, will cut down to 20 either tomorrow or for sure Thurs when preschool is over for the week.
Vicki, typically the EW is happening after 9.5-10hr sleep. Last night he was asleep for 6:30pm, woke and resettled within 20min at 4:00am and then woke for good at 5:30am. I don't know if the EW is from his habitual BF (I didn't feed last night, just went in like a regular NW) or the canines cutting. I'm sure with two naps though and a total of 2-2.25hr day sleep, I can't expect more than an 11hr night, so 5:30 has to be acceptable. I just want it to get later, so we can transition to one nap. Hopefully, he'll pull a few longer nights if I do the 20min CN, so we get closer. Does that sound reasonable?
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it def helped us to a certain extent and then we got to the point where M was waking around 5.30/45am anyway and I just had to go for it with an 11 am nap as I could have waited forever for a later wake up. xx
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I think W2S is worth a shot Hun.x.
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how's it going katie?
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Thanks for asking, Becky. I'm not keeping up with things very well, atm. :-\
it def helped us to a certain extent and then we got to the point where M was waking around 5.30/45am anyway and I just had to go for it with an 11 am nap as I could have waited forever for a later wake up. xx
Really good point, thanks. I'll keep that in mind. I'm such a scaredy cat, I suppose because C never took long naps, that starting a nap at 11 seems a bit daunting, but the way things are going, I feel like we're never going to get that later wake up either.
I think W2S is worth a shot Hun.x.
So, when would you do it? 10hr seems to be the most frequent wake, but it could be anything from 9-11. ???
Ok, yesterday I had the chance to do a 20min am nap. Here's what the day looked like...
W 5:35 (but was on and off from 4:50 :P)
CN 9:20-9:40 am
Nap 12:00-1:45 pm
BT 6 pm
Today, he woke at 5am. ::) So, 11hr straight which is great, but 5am really stinks. I tried to get him to go back and he did lie down and try and might have slept a bit, but I got him up at 5:40, because he was getting loud (although it didn't matter because C had already woken, grrr >:().
Today...
W 5:00 am (tried to go back til 5:40)
CN 9:10-9:40 am
Nap 12:30-1:45 pm (he tried really hard to go back to sleep and was quite restless, but that was it; strange, because we always get 1.5-2hr after a 30min CN)
BT will go for 6pm again, I guess ???
What do you girls think? I feel like I'm losing the plot and nothing is working and I can't see my way out.
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Katie, TBH knowing what I do now, I'd do a set nap and a set BT and leave it for a week or two, then look at tweaking. I don't think you can chop your catnap much further and I'm not sure it is buying you *that* much more time in the day, yk? Obviously your call, knowing G and your family best but I wish I'd done it earlier. I was trying to keep A times 'right' and ending up all over the place depending on nap length.
As a one-night option to see if you can get him a longer night if you think he's really really OT, do a one-nap day and super EBT and cross fingers he wakes after 10hr and you can get him back down (likely because he's used to sleeping at that early hour).
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I agree. If I were you now I would do a 1 nap day and EBT. The 2 naps do not seem to be helping and at least his day will be shorter and so fingers crossed a longer night sleep. It feels scary but it has worked for us recently.
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Ok, so what times would you shoot for with a 5-5:30am wake? 11am nap, then... ??? How do you do EBT with an EW? I don't know how much earlier than 6 I can go. :-\ This makes my stomach churn. :(
I have to stick with two at least through the weekend, because we've got commitments that we need to keep, but can start trying on Monday.
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I did 11am when M was waking at 5.45am ish but she had been awake on and off since 5am....she slept 1.15 and I put her to bed for 6pm and we actually got a great night (probably out of exhaustion!)
I just feel if the 2 are not working then he needs something to almost 're-set'
You don't have to see it as 1 nap from then on, IMO some just cannot cope with that.
If you really don't want to do it and I know that stomach churn feeling then could you do W2S??
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Katie, with Sam he was waking at 5.00 he was napping 10.00 to 11.00/12.30 max at first (he was 12 months though) so I had no choice to to 5 pm BT, which was already 6 hours A time. But then he started to tack so we were able to move forward after a few days. It is scary but as nothing else was working we had no choice anyway. Just wanted to say that if he can't make it longer it is still possible to get through it, but you have to be a brave bunny and shoot for BT as early as necessary ;)
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Ok, thanks ladies. I'm not a brave bunny very often, Vicki. ;) :-[
Yesterday, he did...
W 5:15 am (after resettling at 4:30)
CN 9:15-9:35 am
Nap 12:00-2:15 pm (I woke him)
BT 6:30 pm (DH put down and he usually falls asleep right away, but when I cam out from Claire's room at 6:45 I did see him roll around a couple times, so not sure if he was sleeping and just moving or still settling)
This morning he woke at 5:45 (after resettling at 3:30am). So, that was progress for me. I think I'm going to stick with a 9:15ish CN, 12pm nap, and 6:30-7pm BT (barring any disasters) for a week or two first, because I'm just not mentally prepared to start putting him down at 11am and sitting on pins and needles just hoping he makes it more than 1.10. If things are still where they are in 2 weeks, then I'll go for one nap.
I don't mean to be discarding your advice, I really appreciate it, I'm just not quite there yet. :-[
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no worries, I totally get it...we have been struggling on 1 nap for the last 3 weeks and I do sit stressing every nap time!! Hope it works out xx
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(((Hugs))), Becky! :-*
I felt like I did that so long with Claire and I'm just not ready to go back there. I get short and snappy and really need to be ready to make a change so that I can handle it better, because it doesn't do anybody any good. Easier said than done, though. You'd think I'd have learned to relax a bit about it now. ::) :-[
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No worries :-* I did the jump to one nap too early and paid for it, I understand the hesitation ;)
Hugs xx
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how is it going katie? I am assuming things have improved seeing as no recent posts...that or you are really busy!! xx
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Becky, I can't believe you went back and found this! Thanks for thinking of us... :-* :-*
Things are going much better. We made the jump to one nap two weeks ago and have had a couple two nap days thrown in there. He's doing between 1:30-2:15 for a nap, with the most common being 1:45ish. Nights are anywhere from 11.5-12.5hr. He's had a cold, so I'm not sure what his real needs are.
This morning I found it funny how 'knowing too much' can cloud my judgement sometimes. Yesterday he slept 1:50 and I was planning on putting him down at 6:30 for a 12hr day. I was out running the last of Christmas errands and came home to find he had been asleep since 6:10. DH said he was just losing it. I thought for sure we'd have a pre-six wakeup this morning, but he slept til 6:45am. :o I was shocked. Claire never slept more when she was sick.
Anyway, that's probably much more than you bargained for. ::) Although those 5 weeks after the time change were not fun, the 2-1 has gone much better this time around (I'm sure we'll hit another bump in the next few months, though). Now if I can only hope for the same for the 1-0. We're still struggling with not enough sleep for Claire. Oh well, can't have it all! :P
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good news :)
Get G to have a word with M!
xxx
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LOL, only if we can chat over coffee while they figure it out. ;) :-* Still the same with you all?
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So so glad things are better Hun :-*
Merry Christmas and a Sleepy new year ;)
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LOL, thanks. :-*
He really is sleeping a lot, it's a little unnerving. I know he's got a cold, but at what point do you start worrying? :-\
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I would not worry....just enjoy :)
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at what point do you start worrying?
As soon as they start to sleep a lot, it's the most unnerving thing ever LOL. No seriously enjoy it Hun, I'm sure that the cold is forcing his hand to CU, and that can only be a good thing in the long run ;D.
Merry Christmas! :-*
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Thanks, ladies. Claire was up every 1-2hr last night with a fever and vomiting. :'( Graham slept through. So, I'll take the sleeping child. Can't believe I was questioning it. ::)
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oh no! Get well vibes for Claire xxx
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Oh Hun, it never rains but it pours. This is the worst winter I have known for so many LO's catching one this after another. Get well soon little one's.
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:-* :-* Thanks, girls.