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DS is 25 months and has been going through streaks of nap skipping for the past few months--generally 3-5 days of no naps and then a few days with naps.   Two weeks ago he got out of the crib during nap time with a big crash--upset, but not really hurt.  I wanted to get to get a crib tent, DH doesn't like the idea, I didn't push for it and just let things be, hoping that since the crash was unpleasant he wouldn't do it again. 

Yesterday he figured out how to get out quietly without hurting himself--rearranged his furniture and tore up a book while I thought he was just goofing around in his crib not napping.  Today he did it repeatedly, then would bang on the door, so I would go in return him to the crib, walk out, he'd climb back, lather, rinse repeat.

So, although he seems to be able to get out w/o hurting himself, I don't want to push my luck and risk his getting hurt.  Crib tents aren't locally available, so I've ordered one; it won't come for 7-10 days.  So, for the next 7-10 days we're stuck trying to transition him to a toddler bed.  If it's going well, I'll return the crib tent; if not, we'll try that. 

So, tomorrow will be our first nap in a big boy bed and I have two big questions . . .

1)  Do I try to keep him in his bed, or just in his room?  He can't open the door (right now at least) and his room is safe, but does have books on shelves and a few toys in his closet (which he can open).  If I try to keep him in his bed, how the heck do I do that?  I could barely hear on the monitor when he was going all the way over the crib side, now that he'll just be able to hop out, how will I know?

2)  Assuming he doesn't nap (which I doubt he will . . . ever again . . .feeling pretty gloomy and sorry for myself about this situation  :(), do I put him to bed early?  He has a long history of being a better night sleeper than napper and since about 9 months I've had to intentionally limit his night sleep to ensure that he takes naps.  If he gets too much night sleep, it usually means he doesn't nap the next day.  But if he goes too many days without napping he eventually gets OT.  I'm not sure which cycle I should be most afraid of . . . him getting OT or the cycle where he gets too much night sleep reinforcing that he doesn't need to nap. 

Maybe I'm just imposing my own need for down time in the middle of the day on him and I should just let him get as much night sleep as possible and let him drop the nap? 

Sorry feeling very pathetic and helpless right now . . .
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Re: Bed Transition/Skipping Nap Questions
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2008, 06:32:19 am »
Thank you Stacy!  That makes sense.   :)  I definitely don't see how I could insist he stay IN bed with out getting way too involved, which will turn into a game, or be overstimulating. 

A lot of the toys in his closet are sort of second string toys, lol, so I hope it's enough to keep him from getting destructive, but not super motivating for him to get up.  Will need to remove all the books with paper pages though. 

I'll let you know how it goes.   :)

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Re: Bed Transition/Skipping Nap Questions
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2008, 08:27:50 am »
Good luck Bethany! Don't be scared... it will be ok & I am sure he will nap. He might not nap for a week or even more but I am sure he'll go back to napping. I would too do an earlier bedtime, otherwise he might get overtired, you know....

In a way its great that he can't open the door... so true what Stacy said.. thats 1/2 the battle, getting them back into their room. Baby proof & let him do whatever he wants to & maybe wake him up by say 3pm so that he can still go to bed at a reasonable time.

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Re: Bed Transition/Skipping Nap Questions
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2008, 12:37:17 pm »
Bethany, another alternative to the crib tent that worked for us was lowering the crib mattress.  DS started climbing out of the crib at 20mos so we unscrewed the piece of wood the mattress was on and put it on the floor on a 2x4 piece of wood (still within the crib bars).  Hope that makes sense.  Anyway, here we are at 24mos and he hasn't been able to climb out again yet.  It only gained us about 4 inches but that was enough that he can't get out.


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Re: Bed Transition/Skipping Nap Questions
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2008, 19:28:07 pm »
just lurking...I swear it is the grobag that is keeping Noah in his crib-----but like all good things the crib will eventually have to go....just can't decide if its before or after the new baby. but we are definately waiting for the upcoming time change
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Re: Bed Transition/Skipping Nap Questions
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2008, 00:27:38 am »
but we are definately waiting for the upcoming time change

Ugh...I forgot about that being at a different time.  When is it again?


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Re: Bed Transition/Skipping Nap Questions
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2008, 02:46:22 am »
Sari, its coming soon!!! March 9th/10th :D
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Re: Bed Transition/Skipping Nap Questions
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2008, 03:36:06 am »
Seriously??? Had totally forgotten that.

Well, night sleep in the toddler bed was fine--went right to sleep and slept until we woke him.  Nap time (which is the part I'm worried about)--he didn't sleep.  I don't have a video monitor so I don't know for sure what he did do, but he played quietly and cheerfully for 1 hour and 45 minutes--didn't do anything destructive, didn't try to get out of the room, and didn't call for us, but I also suspect that he spent little if any time in the bed. 

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Re: Bed Transition/Skipping Nap Questions
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2008, 04:44:55 am »
My friends son was like that.  He was in a toddler bed at 15 mos :-0  That is awesome about the night sleep!!!

i would not worry to much with the naps.  It is a tough one because he is at the age where he is trying not to nap anymore.  If he played happily and did not call for you, I think that is great.  At least he had some down time and a lone time.


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Re: Bed Transition/Skipping Nap Questions
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2008, 18:31:19 pm »
wow Bethany, sounds like you guys did really awesome---and that he was happy alone in his room during nap time---so thats great for you!
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Re: Bed Transition/Skipping Nap Questions
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2008, 23:37:46 pm »
Well ladies, I'm pleased, stunned, and shocked to report that he has napped for the last two days!  Both days he's played for about an hour, then it got quiet and he was sleeping.  Yesterday, as soon as I heard noise I went to him, expecting to find that he had passed out in his closet, lol, but, nope he was sitting in his crib. 

He is sick, so I'm guessing that is the main reason he's napping; when, he's well, I'd guess that he'll start skipping them again when he's well, but it has given me hope that despite being able to roam his room, if he really is tired, he'll nap. 

So, I guess we'll be returning the crib tent when it finally arrives and swapping it for bed rails for the twin bed to which we need to move him soon. 

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Re: Bed Transition/Skipping Nap Questions
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2008, 00:37:57 am »
Way to go!! 


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Re: Bed Transition/Skipping Nap Questions
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2008, 01:15:43 am »
Wow Bethany, thats great to hear!!! :D



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Re: Bed Transition/Skipping Nap Questions
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2008, 19:21:17 pm »
Well, things are going down hill . . .  and I'm not dealing with it well  :'( :'( :'( . . .

The first few posts of this thread, although I said  "big boy bed," all we had actually done was lower the side of the crib that drops.  It drops down pretty far making it really easy for him to climb out--that way he wouldn't hurt himself (as he was climbing out anyhow at nap time) and he'd get used to having easy access out and we could see how it affected his night sleep.

Doing that had no affect on night sleep--he went to bed fine, slept until his normal time, and stayed in his bed in the morning til I got him out (which I always do ASAP when he wakes).  Then he got sick and actually napped a few days in the crib with the side dropped--he felt pretty icky and I was giving him cough meds which likely contributed to his drowsiness. 

So, then, we removed the crib side that drops and put up the toddler bed rails.  I have to say, I thought the dropped crib side was pretty close to what the toddler rails would be like, but I was wrong; they are much shorter, there's an open gap--it totally changes the feel of the bed.  DS helped DH makes the switch and when we went to take the removed crib side out of the room DS got all upset and tried to stop us and almost like he was trying to pack it back over to the crib.  I sat down and told him that we were changing his bed b/c now he was a big boy, so he didn't need that part of his crib anymore and he then let us take it out of the room without further fuss.

Well, since then, I feel like his attitude toward his bed and going to bed has totally changed.  When we go in to do his wind down (books, pray, into bed) he won't pick out books, he runs around the room, he seems to have nervous energy/anxiety about the way the bed is now.   :-\

Since going to the toddler rails, he hasn't napped.  Not sure if this would have been the case anyhow just because he's not sick and taking cough meds now--he wasn't napping a lot before wh/ is what led to his climbing out, wh/ is what led to us transitioning. 

Since going to the toddler rails, at night time there seems to be some anxiety and weirdness from him about going to bed.  He falls right to sleeep, doesn't climb out, but in the morning he wakes up and immediately gets up, turns off his sound machine, bangs on the door and then is running around the room when I come in.   

He's also waking slightly earlier than normal--very slightly.  For the last few months I've had to wake him most mornings, sometime between 8:00-8:45.  Now he's waking up on his own right around 8:00. 

He's been so weird about bed time that we're struggling to get him to bed earlier (partially parental fault here--having trouble mentally shifting what time bed time is after it being the same for so long; partially him stalling and having melt downs, etc).  Last night he had a full on melt down at bed time and had to turn off the lights, rock him, and sing to him for 5 minutes to get him to stop crying.  Once he was calm, he was okay when I put him into bed. 

So, it would seem that having the crib side, even dropped, had some sort of psychological impact on him and its absence is affecting him.  In the next few weeks, regardless of what we do with the bed situation, we need to move him out of the nursery and into his new bedroom to create a three month gap b/f baby arrives where the nursery isn't his bedroom.  Since we were making this transition, at the point, I'd intended to move him to a twin bed with a rail, but now I'm at a total loss as that feels like a lot of change for him to handle. 

If I weren't due in 3 months, I'd put the crib side back up, keep it dropped so he could get out w/o hurting himself, but still have the benefits of the psychological barrier and leave it like that until he turned 3.  It seems silly to buy a 2nd crib, however, just so he can have a psychological barrier for another 6-9 months . . . .although 6-9 months is a LONG time in a toddler world, and a LONG time if his sleep becomes an issue just as #2 is arriving.

We've only had the toddler rails up for 3 days.  He's only had about 11-11.5 hours sleep total each of those days.   How long do I give it before declaring it a disaster and bailing?  When I look at it written out it doesn't really sound totally disasterous, but he's getting OT and crabby and last night's melt down was awful, so atm, it feels disasterous, kwim?   :'(

 

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Re: Bed Transition Questions *Updated* Not going fab--Mama's having a melt down
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2008, 19:57:48 pm »
I agree. It may seem 'silly' to have a second crib, but it'll feel a lot sillier if you're struggling with DS sleep problems as well as the demands of a newborn.

We thought that we'd be able to get DS into his big boy bed before the arrival of DD, but he just didn't want to sleep in there. We put DD into a moses basket and she ended up sleeping in there until she was 5 months old (fortunately she is quite petite!!) cos we still hadn't managed to encourage him into his bed. We have finally got ourselves a second cot (well, a cot bed), which we got for free by placing an ad on Freecycle so have released ourselves from the stress and pressure of working out how we were going the make the transition.

There's nothing wrong with bailing - at the end of the day you have to prioritise getting as much rest as possible for yourself and your family as the massive changes that are imminent will bring many other challenges!

Be kind to yourself  :-*
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