Anyone want to talk about the 2-1 transition? Thread #9

[scucci1979]

Hope everyone had a decent wake up time.

I think Madi is about to get her molars as she has been very cranky and is beginning to wake in the morning crying. 

[~*Nicole*~]

We got a good night and another good nap today WOO HOO

[yellow rose]

I went all crazy today and decided to try pushing my lo's nap to 12:30 instead of the 11:00 I had been thinking.  I know those times aren't even close, but I thought I should try an extended A time to hopefully end these short naps.  He STILL only slept 1 hr. 15 mins., but at least it wasn't 30 mins!  And his A time between nap and bed were shorter, so that made for a happier boy and happier Mommy.  We'll see how tomorrow goes.

Sweet dreams everyone!

[~*Nicole*~]

We are also going for 12:00 pm ish naps rather than 11:00/11:30 and hoping it will do the trick. It's a looong A time though so hopefully OT won't overtake us both!

[scucci1979]

ladies, need some advice! Madi does a long am nap begining around 11:15am for 2hrs and 5min then a CN at 4:30pm for 20min. Her birthday party is this Sunday at 2:30pm and was debating if I should try a one nap day or let her sleep an extra 10min(if she does) and let her have a CN in the car on the way home fromt the party? Do you think it will be too much for her?

[~*Nicole*~]

How far is the party?

I let Ava sleep before her party right up until guests arrived. Then I got her up and dressed her. But it was at MIL's house and she napped there and we didn't have to drive. I wanted her to be rested so she would be nice and happy and pleasant for guests. She refused any catnap but went to be alright so it worked out as a nice long nap. I think her party was at 1 so we did an 11-1pm nap?

I'd be inclined to see if pushing her to 11:30 would produce a nap to 1:30 or later and let her have just one long nap and then catch up if need be the following day.

[*Jo*]

hi ladies, well i think ibetter join you all,

we were having a 1hr AM nap and 1.5hr PM nap and i was having to wake him from both, but he was super irritable all the day, moaning, grissling etc so i swapped them around and he takes a 1.5 hr nap in the AM and a 45/30min nap in the PM for which i still sometimes have to wake him from both (especially the morning one) and gone are the cranky moods, its wonderful to have my happy little baby back, however hes still grumpy after the PM nap, last night all he did was whine all evening!!! does anyone else have this problem during the 2-1? i am a bit worried that 2hrs a day isnt enough sleep for him but i cant fit anymore naps in without it becoming a 14hour day/10 hour night

[~Jen~]

Hello,

New to the thread and just starting out with a few questions on the short AM nap/long PM nap.  DS is slowly, slowly inching his way towards the 2-1.  He is young but he has been moving that way the past month or two despite my efforts to slow him down. He has always been on the low end of sleep for his age.  We are doing a 35 min AM cat nap and a 2hr PM nap.  I've had a few NWs start the past week after a great stretch the past month.  I'm guessing I need to push his AM nap later as I've been putting him to sleep around the same time for about a month. 

I just wanted to understand better how the 2-1 progresses from this point.  Do I just keep pushing out the morning cat nap later and later? Will that cause PM nap to move later? Or do I shorten AM nap when I push it later so that PM nap stays around same time?   If the AM nap moves later, how does the PM nap move earlier? Or does that just happen once AM nap is dropped all together?  (sorry for all the questions; just don't know where we go from here)

[~*Nicole*~]

mstrboo-Hello...you're in the right place. One thing you can try is also shortening the pm nap.. At a certain point some los don't do well overnight if they are getting more than 2 hrs. daytime sleep. That said, he might be a bit young to cut his daytime sleep too much but you can cut the am down to 30 mins if that helps. But a lot of us have found around the 12 month or so mark over 2 hrs. daytime sleep robs us of night sleep. The 30 min. am nap and 1.5 hr pm nap is pretty common for a long time. Once you come across issues again you can drop to a 20 min. catnap. Once that doesn't work a lot of moms try to just do 1 nap. It's all a trial and error thing. At the same time as cutting naps happens some los increase their A time needs and this can cause NW and EWs as well. So some of us have found that having a certain amount of A time before bedtime is crucial in getting a good night sleep. So it really will depend on your lo. But if you post what you are doing and what your troubles are someone will have ideas for your particular routine, etc.
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Calebsmummy-DD didn't like being woken in the am....but adjusted after a bit and was usually all smiles. I think they do get used to it. But if not....it is understandable as they're getting woken up from mid-sleep cycle. I have heard other moms complain about the same thing and feeling very terrible about having to do it. Sorry.

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We are trying to do 1 nap everyday now. Today was only 12-1:30 and it was interrupted at that. SO I had DD in bed at 6:30. I am hoping she sleeps through even if she is up early.

[yellow rose]

Welcome, Mstrboo and Calebsmummy!  I am certain you will get some great advice on this thread.  The 2-1 transition is really tricky and can be very frustrating.  My advice...take it slow and don't rush your babes to one nap.  My lo was doing great until we finally got to one nap and he will not sleep longer than 1 hr. 15 mins. each nap.  Granted, he sleeps a solid 12 hours at night, so overall, he seems to be getting enough sleep, but I sure do miss those 2 hour naps.  Hang onto them as long as you can!   

[scucci1979]

Welcome, Mstrboo and Calebsmummy!

Tomorrow is Madi's birthday party and I am going to let her sleep two hours in the morning-maybe a little longer if she wants-so she will be pleasant for her guests.  Hopefully, she will take a CN on the way home. 

Yesterday, she was extremely tired and hubby let her sleep extra for her CN and of course she woke up at 4am this morning, then 5:30am and again 6:45am.   I hope she sleeps through tonight.

sending sleepy vibes to everyone.

[*Jo*]

well today was a bit mucked up due to church, he woke at 7am and slept for 10mins at 9.30am on the way to church (he always sleeps in the car) then on the way home he fell asleep in teh car at 12.30, i put him into bed and he slept until 2.15 so nearly two hours however im not sure what to do next, he wont be ready for a sleep now until 5.45-6pm i dont wanna put him to bed so early, he usually only does an 11 hour night from 8pm-7am but i cant imagine putting a 30min nap in there is gonna help, if i do then he wont go to sleep until 9.30 and hes never been up later than 8.30 in his life!!

[Mashi]

Jo I would go for that 6pm ish bedtime!  I know you say he only does an 11 hour night and won't make up the missed day sleep by doing a longer night -- my LO was the same way but there were times when things happened like your day and we HAD to do that early bedtime.  And then one time it just happened -- he slept 13 hours!  Never had before, but just because he never has before doesn't mean that one time he won't start!

I do remember reading in BWSAYP Tracy's words along the lines of "don't let what has happened in the past prevent you from doing the right thing now!" which I think are not only good words in terms of LO's sleep, but life in general, too!!!!

[*Jo*]

oh oops! lol we instead of watching the clock just waited for him to tell us when he was tired, he was in a fantastic mood, laughing and playing until 6.45 when he just told us that he was tired, i gave him his bottle and put him to bed, he was asleep at 7pm and slept through till 7am! i know it wouldnt be a regular thing but boy was i releived phew!!!

[*Jo*]

so how do you make the days work out when their A times are getting so long?

for example today we got him up at 7am and he went down for a nap at 11, he will sleep until 12.30, then he wont be ready for another nap till 4.30 which is quite late in the day so if we only let him sleep until 5pm he wont be ready for bed until 8pm, or is there another way to work the day out?