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Re: Please help. I am at a complete loss!
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2010, 15:22:47 pm »
So, to be clear, if she is teething should I leave her in cot and just talk to her? Often she'll show no signs of teething during the day and I'll only suspect anything when bedtime comes, or when she has a NW.This is why I'm so confused. How will I know when the teething has ended, so to speak?

For Finn IMHO he was teething from months 4 - 13.  No two ways about it.  We may have had some periods which were less fussy than others, but that kid continued to pop teeth all year.  In reality, most kids are probably teething in their first year full stop.  Some handle it better than others, some have periods where the teeth aren't shifting or poking through as much, and some can feel every move a tooth makes (or so it would seem).  But 20 teeth have to come through by the time they are 2 or shortly thereafter.  That's a lot of work.  And teeth start forming in the embryo stage of pregnancy!  It just takes them the time from birth on to finish forming, move down and erupt.  How many teeth does she have at the moment and which teeth are still to come through?  Is she drooling, chewing, biting?  Does cold in her mouth soothe her?

Really teething will only end when all teeth are in.  We have a quiet spell at the moment in that Finn has 16 of his teeth.  4 more molars to come.  Currently he's getting chewier and droolier again so we know they are starting to do their thing.

It's true that teeth pain can manifest more at night when they aren't as distracted, it did for us.  If she's medicated and you have done what you can to ease the discomfort, I would say your job is really done.  There's not much you can do. 

Some choose not to sleep train when teething but for us it would have meant no one getting sleep during our entire first year.  So really we had to give it a hard go regardless.  And it meant at times not picking him up or removing him from the crib, just settling him in there with a hand on his back or our voices.  When he was really ill (fever etc.) we would bring him into our room in his travel cot and I would just lean over the side of my bed with my hand in the cot.  Maximize sleep!  I know you want to stay away from that lest it turn into co-sleeping so I would just stay in her room, reassure her but let her know that she needs to go to sleep.  You could, if she's really unsettled, sleep on her floor ala GW.  But since you have already used WI/WO I would likely stick with one method or it may confuse or muddy the waters.

I think bedtime will be later tonight. That's a long nap and she's going to need a decent A time, likely 5 hrs.  But follow her and see what she shows you.  She may be ready sooner if her night was crappy.
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Re: Please help. I am at a complete loss!
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2010, 16:54:07 pm »
She didn't get her first tooth till 10 months. Now she has the 4 front ones plus one (molar I think!). She's drooling a bit, though not as much as she sometimes does. I did use GW initially to sleep train, and I have in the past slept on a matress in her room. I medicated about an hr ago today as she was rather adgy and agitated. Will try for 8pm bedtime and do df meds again before my bedtime. Fingers crossed! Thanks all for your help! Will keep you posted. xxx



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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2010, 06:34:40 am »
Last night she slept at 8.30, I gave df meds at 12.30, and she slept through till 6.45! This is great of course but I'd better not hold my breath. The one long nap seemed to work well so I'm going to try and hold out on the nap  till 12 today.



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« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2010, 14:25:37 pm »
it really does seem that the df meds are helping. :) :)
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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2010, 14:53:56 pm »
It sounds much better, I would keep up the DF!
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« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2010, 07:38:33 am »
Hi ladies,

Bad night again last night I'm afraid!  :( First she woke up early from her nap (after only 1hr!) crying alot. Managed to AP another half hour but that was it.  I think she was in pain. She has quite a swollen area on her gums so I think another nasty tooth is pushing through  >:( Gave her meds in the afternoon.

I put her to bed at 8 after meds, took a little while to settle, and then she woke up again at 10. She spent a good 30-45mins crying and I had to keep going in to comfort her. When DH went in to her she wouldn't settle at all, she only wanted me. It was a really frantic, sobbing cry so I did pick her up and cuddle her. In the end she slept on my chest and I put her back. It was too soon at this point to give her more meds and the way things worked out we didn't give her any more that night. She woke again at 2 and 6, and both times needed a quick cuddle. I know I should have tried not to but she was in travel cot in our room and DH was really tired!!  :-\

One thing I should mention is that we had some friends over for dinner yesterday.  They have two slightly older children and DD had a whale of a time running around and playing with them! We took her off for her usual bath and bedtime routine so  she would wind down but I did wonder if OS might have been an issue. Does this sound like that long NW might have been OS? To me she seemed to be in pain but I could be wrong. She always naps at least 2hrs now so I think the nap disturbance must have been pain.






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Re: Please help. I am at a complete loss!
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2010, 07:43:29 am »
yes I agree about the nap issue, it does sound like pain to me. I would imagine that the shorter, disrupted nap plus the OS contributed to the bad night. Is 8pm your usual bedtime? seems quite late after a shorter nap?
You are doing really well though so I guess try to have a low key day if poss and hope for a better nap. I really do think this is down to teeth and tbh you just have to sit it out and deal with it on a day to day basis. Sleep disruption is a given here if ds is teething and it is so hard as you want to be able to fix it but all you can really do is give meds and comfort as and when.
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« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2010, 07:53:03 am »
Yes her bedtime was later than it should have been! These friends were over from abroad and we had planned ahead to meet them. She was tired but she was so excited at having friends to play with I had to allow her a bit of time or she wouldn't have slept anyway!  :P We had also been out for a swim in the morning soa bit much maybe.

Today will definitely be a low key today so hopefully will be better  :)

Bedtime is usually about 5hrs after she wakes from nap, assuming its a good one of at least 2hrs. Trying to stretch morning A to about 5hrs too.



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« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2010, 08:22:01 am »
You know what the incredible thing is? My MIL still insists teething isn't painful!!



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Re: Please help. I am at a complete loss!
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2010, 13:48:52 pm »
My MIL still insists teething isn't painful!!

I really want to hunt down these people and make them spend a night with my teething kid hehe
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« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2010, 14:47:35 pm »
Whenever mine spends the night with her she never seems to be teething!!

Had a really hard time with nap today; twice she woke crying after 5 mins, even though she was medicated, which she never does. Finally I got her to sleep by lying near her a while. Hope this horrid tooth hurries up!! I think I'll try voltaren suppository tonight.