NW's wont stop

[~Emma~]

 Cant figure them out. He's a happy bunny during the day for the most part, maybe a little tired though. This has been going on for over a week now. He wakes pretty upset, doesn't need settled as such. He goes quiet as soon as DH or I go into the room. Not teething I dont think as he's ok during the day, gave meds last night just in case though but it didn't make a difference. Last night he was awake for 2 hours.

 Day goes like so

 Awake between 6 and 7
 Nap 12-2
 Bed - 7 asleep for 7.30

 His days have been like this for ages so dont understand. Any ideas?

[LucySol]

How do you deal with the NW? what is he doing when he wakes up?

A coupe of months back we went thru some odd NW and i couldnt work it out at all.i had a post on here about it and a lot of people pointed out to me that they thought a lot of it could be behavioural.in fact if you read a few recent posts on here there is a lot of this going on so it must be the age for it! i got a lot firmer with D than i had been.i did WIWO if she was crying but i didnt go into the room just stood by the door and basically firmly told her it was sleep time.She was also calling me back a lot for some reason or another when it was naptime or bedtime,again just trying her luck i think!!

im not suggesting that this is was Brodie is doing,nor am i suggesting you get tough with him if he is suffering with his teeth,just some other angle to think about xxx

[~Emma~]

 He wakes with a loud cry. He doesn't call out for mummy or daddy, just cries. Either myself or DH get up to go in after waiting a couple of mins to see if it stops. As soon as we walk in it stops, cant tell if he goes straight back to sleep or not as its dark. I tell him its sleep time and maybe rub his back and walk out again. Last night DH just walked in and sat next to him for 10 mins and said nothing and didn't even touch him. He went back to sleep and that was the last waking.

 Today he has been so tired and grumpy, just tiredness building up. I am knackered. 

[LucySol]

Could it be a bit of S.A? whats he like with that in the day? is he needing some reassurance?

[*Fiona*]

I just wanted to add that my DD is 17months and we are having random NWs too, several per night. All DH or I have to do is go in, replug her dummy then she'll lay down & settle back off immediately. It's so so difficult to know what to do.

Tonight we are planning to leave her a bit longer than we do normally, to see if she will resettle alone as we know she can resettle and replug herself. Otherwise, I might try what Lucysol suggests, by not actually going into the room but telling her to lay down & go back to sleep.

Lucysol: did you open the door and speak to DD? Or do you not close her door? Or did you just talk "through" the door if it was closed? Sorry to threadjack, I'm struggling with the lack of sleep too. Perhaps we can all learn from each other's tips!

[~Emma~]

 Lucy, I thought SA too but again nothing during the day that indiactes this to be the case. Another thing I had thought is dreams. Dont know how old toddlers are when they start dreaming though.

[LucySol]

fiona-her door is shut so i just open it and talk to her from the door.TBH going into her room just makes her scream even more when i leave so its better that she doesnt actually see me.

Emma-i dont know much about dreams so im not sure.Does he seem anxious when he wakes? The thing is with keep going in for a while to reassure them it soon becomes a habit/prop and it can be a struggle to get out of it.
i dont think its routine problem,that looks pretty good to me,tho i guess it could be anything.How long is he awake for during his NW? Do you wake him afte a 2 hr nap or does he wake himself? maybe if he is so tired after the NW he needs a longer and/or earlier nap? especially if he is waking closer to 6am.maybe try 11.30,maybe he would sleep a bit more and see if that helps?

[babybarr]

Have you changed his room or just painted the nursery for the new bub or anything?  Wondered if it's to do with your new arrival nearly being here?

[~Emma~]

 We have had visitors here for the last week and a half but its been my friend and then SIL. Both people he knows. DH has been off work too. Perhaps its just the change in the the day to day stuff? He just seems so upset when we wakes and its just so loud so yes I would say he is anxious, certainly very upset anyways. Like I say though he stops dead the second we walk in the door.

 He has never, ever had a consistant wake time. Tried everything on that front. I just accept that his wake up time is different every day. He goes through phases of EW so anything after 6 is just fine by me if I'm honest.

 Perhaps it is the new arrival, who knows.  I just want to deal with this the best I can to ensure I dont start some kind of habit here. I am worried though that if it is reassurance of some kind he's after and I dont give it to him then that would just be awful.

 

[babybarr]

Can you just call to him - would that work?

[~Emma~]

Last night he sttn! Awoke early but I'll take what I can get! 

[babybarr]

That's good news!!  I hope he keeps it up for you.

[LucySol]

Well done Brodie! He knew we were talking bout him!

Could you just open the door and tell him to go to sleep and shut the door again?,without going in the room? He knows you are there then but he isnt needing you to go back to sleep?

[~Emma~]

 I think thats what I'll try if it happens again.

 On the downside no nap today so expecting the worst tonight. My fault as we had a day out and he wouldn't sleep in the buggy. 

[babybarr]

we had a day out and he wouldn't sleep in the buggy.

These BW babies are immune to APing aren't they?!