Support for dropping the nap age 2-3 part 2..

[andysmom0614]

I think the rain may be working in our favor. Andy is still sick with a chest cold, but my mom only gave him an hour nap yesterday. He was asleep by 8:30pm and STTN and woke at 7:10am! He woke up happy and transitioning so well. Amazing what good sleep will do.

So, I guess I will be thankful for the rain. Maybe it will get him back on track to sleeping later in the morning.

Daycare let him take a 1 hr 45 min nap - not sure what they were thinking.

Oh boy! That is not good. Hope he is ok for you today.

We have sunshine Say no more 

O slept better last night (or at least I didn't hear him!) forcing the no nap is helping the night sleep, just worried about pushing him too hard iyswim?

Totally understand. Trying to figure this out is harder than any other sleep issue that we've had. Seems like no magic formula.

Had a 4:30am wake up this morning with no luck in settling her back to sleep.....thankfully she fell asleep by 1:30pm so we'll see what mess we're up against tonight..

OOF! 4:30am! Hope she slept better last night.

[Tweakster]

The sleep begets sleep works well for us...but then he gets caught up and cuts it.  Always happens.  He managed to go back to sleep though this morning, thank goodness, and I had to go get him at 7!  And then he said 'no mommy stay bed' lol

Maybe the tides are turning - oh wouldn't that be nice lol

Good news about Andy!  But sorry he's still ill.  That's no fun :-(

4:30 is insane.  Not looking forward to that last bit of the transition as they get wildly OT :-(

[mimi1017]

Great sleep Wendy and Andy! Hope it keeps up.  Well our night wasn't too bad....dd slept from 1:30-3 and then fell asleep at 8:45 calmly....can't believe what a long day she did...but at least she woke at 6:45 wheww! So I'm aiming for a 1 pm nap....crossing my fingers she goes down.  Hope everyone else is getting better sleep

[andysmom0614]

I think it is hysterical that for the first year I spent so much time trying to get Andy past the 45 minute mark into longer naps and now I am trying to get his nap back to around 45 minutes.

Just a thought....Seems almost ironic...

[Tweakster]

Yes I had that annoying revelation recently too lol. And also irritated that I'm still counting sleep period.  Oh to be that 'he sleeps when he sleeps' mom lol. I wonder if they have seriously cranky kids and don't realize they might be able to fix it lol

[andysmom0614]

I wonder if they have seriously cranky kids and don't realize they might be able to fix it lol

I totally hear you. I think they may have angel babies. Andy was spirited/grumpy/touchy and just plain difficult. He is still nowhere the easy that I see with my friend's kids. They have those nap anywhere kids that you can bring to restaurants and they sleep through it. Or the kids that they can bring in their bed and they will pass out.

We had no idea about Sensory Processing Disorder when Andy was born. Now it all makes perfect sense. He is completely out of sync with the world. His infant experience makes perfect sense to me now, and I totally understand the colic and everything else he went through.

So, my longwinded answer to say that I understand counting sleep periods. Right there with you. I don't think I will ever stop analyzing.

[jrmommyx2]

Hi ladies.... I (sadly) think it is time for me to join you

My 3 yr old B/G twins have always been really good sleepers... and although they are still really good sleepers, my luck is running out! And when I say luck I mean it... at age 2 they were sleeping 12 hours nights and still doing an almost 3 hour nap! At 2.5 they were doing a 12 hour night  and a 2 hour nap... now at 3 yrs (turned at the end of March) They will still nap 1+ hours and wake up around 7:30am (or even 8 if I let them go), but even though they are in bed between 7:30 and 8pm, it is sometimes taking them an hour to fall asleep.... So, that leads me here... I need to figure out what I want to give up- good wake up time, early bedtime, or some mommy time during the day!! I know they are not ready to drop the nap yet, as their behavior if they don't sleep is CRAZY!!! So I guess I am looking for some help in figuring out a new schedule as this transition to no nap (which I hope we can hold onto for a bit) is staring to happen...

[andysmom0614]

I need to figure out what I want to give up- good wake up time, early bedtime, or some mommy time during the day!!

Are they happy at night for an hour while they fall asleep?

We are back on 1 hour naps and it seems to be doing the trick. Only 1 NW last night and I am not sure if it counts as a NW. He said 2 sentences at 1:30am. "I took a ride in daddy's car. It was fun!" I am thinking he woke up briefly from a dream and just rolled over. Or was talking in his sleep.

How is everyone else doing?

[Tweakster]

lol I love it when they talk in their sleep, F does it too

We are doing ok, two days in a row he had a 1 hr 45 min nap and then did an 11 hr night but yesterday they cut at 1 hr 30 again and he did a 10.5 hr night.  It's weird.  I'm wondering if we should do an earlier bedtime tonight to see if we can elongate the night again?  I don't know.  It's crazy this transition!

[jrmommyx2]

Yes- They are fine up there until they fall asleep, just playing quietly in their cribs (yup.... still in cribs:)) But I feel like I get caught in this vicious cycle of late bedtime= shorter night= tired the next day/longer nap then later bedtime.... repeat! Or if we happen to have an earlier bedtime, the taking forever to fall asleep usually happens at nap time (which ends up being later) and then that makes bedtime late again! If they do nap late, I try and cut it to 30-40 min so that another late bedtime doesn't happen... but if this goes on for a few days then they get OT!!!! I just can't seem to figure the right timing out....

[andysmom0614]

Yes- They are fine up there until they fall asleep, just playing quietly in their cribs (yup.... still in cribs:))

My son is still in a crib. He will be 3 in June. I have no plans to take him out until he asks. He loves it too much.

I am not sure what to suggest. The only thing that worked with my son was fixing the nap. So, his nap is fixed at 1pm-2pm. Bedtime was moved up a 1/2 hour and he falls asleep within 15 minutes.

It seems like whenever I adjust daily for OT/UT things get out of whack. I almost have to deal with his cranky OT self if he has a short night and stick to routine. It then corrects itself....for now anyway. 

We are doing ok, two days in a row he had a 1 hr 45 min nap and then did an 11 hr night but yesterday they cut at 1 hr 30 again and he did a 10.5 hr night.  It's weird.  I'm wondering if we should do an earlier bedtime tonight to see if we can elongate the night again?  I don't know.  It's crazy this transition!

Could it be a growth spurt and he needs more sleep all of a sudden? Maybe just a few days?

[jrmommyx2]

andysmom- we basically do set times too-  what time does your LO wake up in the am and then go to sleep at  night? And I don't plan on taking them out of their cribs anytime soon either... they love it too.... and so do I!!!

[babybarr]

How is everyone getting on?

Am I tormenting O by making him stay up all day?   My mum yesterday let him nap for 10mins at 3pm and it then took him an hour to go to sleep even after 10mins wth?  So when he has these naps he ends up with a short night and less sleep overall due to the nap so today I told my mum to try and not let him nap and she gave me a bit of an earful   "Well he's very tired etc etc"  then thing is he *has* been sleeping better at night with no nap but he really needs a shorter day than I can give him. 

How is it that mums can make you feel so bad about yourself?

[mmom]

(HUGS) Laura.  It is so easy for others to judge.  They are not the ones sleeping over, dealing with NWs, EWs, etc.  If you think he is doing well without the nap, then go for it. 

We are having naps most days. M is so tired now that he plays for  a bit during his quiet time and then crawls into his bed.  I normally let him sleep for about 30 minutes.  We always have bedtime resistance, so it is hard to tell.  I think that M gets a 2nd wind at dinner time and that no matter how tired he is, it is a fight to get him down.

[Tweakster]

We're all over the map really.  Not sure but he's super tired.  Yesterday I think we mucked up and let him nap 2 hrs 45 mins and then put him to bed at 8:30 (4.5 hrs A time post-nap) and he was zonked and passed right out but then woke crying quite a bit just after 6 a.m.  I think he went back to sleep but he did wake unhappy at first. 

I'm not sure what to do for him really.  It's like swings and roundabouts.  If we let him nap longer we get shorter nights and our schedule gets too shifted (like this morning in order for him to 'sleep in' DH had to go to work late).  If we wake him on weekends he's miserable and we have a crappy afternoon.  If we let him sleep I don't know when to put him to bed really. 

Ack!

Laura, if O is sleeping better at night that is key.  His night sleep is so important and restorative at this age.  So your mum is entitled to her opinion but at the end of the day, you are the one who knows what is best for him :-)