Anyone Want To Talk About The 2-1 Transition? Thread #20

[susaninlondon]

Claire bear he is 13 months tomorrow! maybe it is a big leap....
he had a 11.5 hr sleep last night,,do you think he can carry that OT with him to today afetr that sleep? I am more inclined to think he is UT rather than OT, with him OT naps are 30 mins ...but will have to see how we go tomorrow.
He went to bed ok at 645,,chatted for a few minutes so fingers crossed. Really dont want to gwt back into the EW cycle!
Have good nights all
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[*Kara*]

amom - how old is your LO now?  there is a huge mental growth spurt around the 13 month mark and you wouldn't be the first mom to suffer through an LO being allergic to sleep for about 10 days time... my DD normally manages 13.5 hrs total sleep/day but she dropped to barely 12 during that time... it was crazy!  And it stopped as suddenly as it began one day... then a huge language explosion!

[amom526]

He is 12 months next week. He does seem on the verge of speech, and I have wondered if this is something developmental. I think it is probably a combination his routine being off and developmental stuff.

[malingirl]

My 19 month old just dropped to one nap. She wouldn't sleep for the am nap anymore, would just play and talk so I took as a sign she was ready to drop. A little before that she'd started waking early 545-630 when normally shed sleep till 730-8.. In turn her whole schedule has been crazy.. It is as follows:

Wake 615-630
Get her out of crib 7am

Nap 1230-1
Wakes 230-3

Bed time 730

Night wakings and early wakings continue.

How do I stop those get back to later wake times and get a longer nap??

[*Kara*]

How long is her nap in general?  I would cap it at 2 hrs to start with

[susaninlondon]

Well wehad a 620ish wakeup which isnt bad but its getting earlier every day. Hoping to try and get him back on track today, just finding it so hard to read him at the moment. Impossible to know if he is UT or OT

[amom526]

I think it takes some LO a while to adjust to one nap, so I would give it a little time. She may need 2 naps some day to catch up on sleep. But you can try capping the nap and see what happens.

Well we had a pretty good night last night fianlly!! Slept from 645 till 5 am, then back to sleep until 630. I think I will start today with a 20 minute AM nap. What sort of A would you all recommend after a 20 minute AM nap?

[susaninlondon]

Disaster of a day..
Woke 620
Bed 930 and I just let him sleep figuring it would give him a chance to catchup if OT
eventually I woke him at 1055 - so 1 hr 25 mins sleep.
Yep you guessed it spent the whole afternoon trying to get him to nap, no joy..so in bed at 635 after been up since just 11am, god knows what time he will be up at tomorrow...
so it seems like I really need to keep to the short AM long PM nap........
Hope your all having better days
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[amom526]

Sorry for the rough day Susan He did have 1.5 hours of day sleep overall, so he might surprise you. I hope he sleeps well!!

So A had a 25 minute nap from 940-10:05. I tried a 3 hour A, but I guess that was too short. He chatted for 20 minutes, and then woke up at the 45 minute mark and has been chatting for 25 minutes now. This is pretty much a repeat of yesterday. He did have a good night though last night, but 2 short naps is a recipe for disaster in the long run.   Tomorrow i will shorten that first nap even more, and push out his A to 3.25 and see what happens.

random Q - on Saturday we need to be out from 1030-2 or even a bit later. Any suggestions about what i should do with naps? Let him sleep longer in the morning and hope for an afternoon catnap?

[Losh]

random Q - on Saturday we need to be out from 1030-2 or even a bit later. Any suggestions about what i should do with naps? Let him sleep longer in the morning and hope for an afternoon catnap?

I have to be out on Saturday afternoon, so have the same dilemma! I think I will go with a longer AM nap (if he will) and then let him have a PM sleep in the car on the way home. If you cap the AM nap anyway and he doesn't get the opportunity for a PM nap (depending on what you are doing), it could all go horribly wrong!

We have had a reasonable couple of days with nursery. Yesterday was 6am - 6.40pm with 1 nap of 1hr 10 min and today was 6.10am - 7pm with 2 naps totalling 1.5 hours.

It's not a huge amount of sleep but I am not at work until next Wednesday, so hopefully we may get some shape on the short am / long pm nap situation!

Fingers crossed for good nights all!

[amom526]

Well after 2 short naps yesterday, A was definitely tired at bedtime. But it is 445 am and he has already been up for an hour talking. I feel like he would be crying if he was OT but I'm not sure. I hope he falls back to sleep soon. I wish he could talk to tell me why he won't sleep!

ETA he went back to sleep for a grand total of 30 minutes. Joy. I put in a call to my ped but he is out today.

[katiepierce]

Hi ladies just been reading through to catch up. Hi to all those I haven't 'met' before!

amom526 - hope he went back to sleep for you...OT can do weird things to these babies for sure : / As for saturday I would aim for a long am and then pm catnap like you say, will he do down as early as 9? Ideal I guess would be nap 1 9 - 10.30, nap 2 2.30-3.15, 630 bedtime?

Well we're on day 6 of 1 nap! I have been doing 4.5 hours awake time before and after the nap but having 11.30 as the earliest - just doesnt seem practical to have 1 nap starting earlier than this!
It has been going pretty well, or so I thought until yesterday...

Day 1 - wake 8!, nap 12.30 - 3.30 (I woke!), bedtime 7.30
Day 2 - wake 6.50, nap 11.30 - 2.15, bedtime 6.45
Day 3 - wake 7.15, nap 11.45 - 2.30, bedtime 7
Day 4 - wake 6.45, nap 11.30 - 2.15, bedtime 6.45
Day 5 - wake 5.30 (arrhhh!) back to sleep at 6.15 - 7, nap 11.30 - 2, bedtime 6.30
Day 6 (today) wake 4.30 (arrhhh!), back to sleep at 5 - 7, nap 11.30 - ?

Does anyone have ideas about what could be going on? OT? UT? He is also teething slightly and gave meds and a wee drink both days to get him back to sleep so it could just be this, although he seemed to be suffering worse at the start of the week and hadnt any NW then....hmmmm.

Do I keep ploughing on? Its a shame as he was coping really well but now seems tired...down to the disrupted nights I guess : (

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[trimbler]

Wow, katiepierce those are lovely long naps! Sorry can't advise as we're not there yet, but I know teething plays havoc with our DS... he's cutting 3.5 teeth at the moment (yes, one of his molars is only half through!) and is suffering now mainly with runny nose leading to lots of coughing, which really makes it hard for him to go to and stay asleep - and also hard for me to know exactly what he's doing, since sometimes he coughs in his sleep and sometimes wakes himself right up and has a chat... Especially frustrating when you know he really needs to go to sleep *now* but just when he's nice and calm he has a huge coughing fit Wouldn't it be so much easier without colds and teething?! Hope things get better for you and your DS soon, I would guess that you're probably ok since he is getting back to sleep after his NWs and is still having good naps - I would expect naps to get a bit broken if he was getting really OT, but then not all LOs are the same.

[amom526]

Katie-how old is your DS?

[katiepierce]

He is 12.5 months today. Napped 2hr20 today but I put him in at 6.15 tonight as he seemed done in. I was thinking the same as you trimbler that he cant be fairing too badly if his naps are still a good solid length, but then he has never really been a very short napper (I know - lucky me!) so I dont know it that would be a reliable indicator for us - he does do OT naps, 1hr20 for him but he has to be very OT for that so dont want it to get to that stage iyswim?

Just dont know whether to keep going come hell or high water till he regulates or offer 2 naps again...just dont know if he's take it though...was driving from 10 - 11 today and he looked tired but didnt fall asleep. I could get hm to take one at home at about 10.30 but he needs so much A after even a short nap that the day just gets really long. he's an 11hr+ kind of guy else he's cranky, short nights seem to effect him more then short naps. Dont know what to do....anyone been here?

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