10 mth old won't sleep through night

[2ndTimeAround]

Ok so our LO is now in her crib for naps and BT.  I BF then put baby in crib awake but drowsy.  She always cries and fights it but usually rubbing her belly or patting her back seems to settle her enough to fall asleep.

She is usually awake for day at 7:30am, nap at 10:30/11am which lasts about 2 hrs then she has a second nap around 3ish. Bed at 8/8:30pm.

The problem however is her frequent NW.  She doesn't wake from her naps ever but at night she wakes frequently.  Last night one NW lasted over an hour and another lasted 1/2 hr.  Around 6 or 6:30am she wakes and I bring her in my bed where I BF her and she falls back to sleep.

Just looking for some advice to cut down on the NW's.  Also, how long will we have to sleep in her room for during the sleep training process and will we ever be able to put her in her crib and walk away w/o having to shh/pat her to sleep?

[ZacsMumme]

At ten months I think she needs more A time really. How long are her naps - can you post EaSY?

[2ndTimeAround]

Well she's almost 12 months now but here's her easy.

Up for day at 7:30-8am
breakfast at 8:30-9am
play
Nap at 10:30-11
Up from nap at 12-1pm somewhere in there (depends on how long she slept at night for)
Lunch
Play
PM nap between 2-3pm
Supper
7pm bath and wind down
8 nurse to sleep

[ZacsMumme]

So her morning A time, and A between naps is very short for her age. That last A is very long. My first thought is that she is UT for her naps, then OT by BT, leading to NW

Have a read of these links, and let me know what you think.
http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=95670.0
http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=41952.0
Something like this may work well for her if she naps well
WU 7.30
Nap 10.30-11.15
Nap 2-3.30 (or as long as she likes)
BT 8

WHat do you think?

[2ndTimeAround]

I will definitely try the 2-1 transition for naps.

What are your thoughts on when we will be able to just put LO in the crib and walk away w/o the shh/pat to sleep?  When does that start?

[ZacsMumme]

Well WI/wO is a method of sleep training as is shh pat. I woder if the patting has become a prop if you need to do it at BT and NW etc. can your LO self settle withou you at all for naps/BT - does she get worked up easily...temperament? It may be you do need to try WI/WO

[2ndTimeAround]

She doesn't self settle at all.  She has been in her crib for 1 week today for naps and BT.  It seems like at 2:30am everyday she wakes screaming for over an hour and there is no settling her.  We really don't no what to do.  I guess I need help with the self settle and to know when enough crying is enough and how to settle her in that case.  With the WI/WO method how long do you let her cry for?

[ZacsMumme]

Have a read of this, what Doyou think, I think you may need to choose one or the other (WO/WO or GW) if shh patt is becoming a prop.

http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=80750.0

Hugs

[2ndTimeAround]

Haven't read the last thread you posted however I wanted to add the every night between 3-4am LO wakes and won't go back to sleep.  What are we doing  wrong?  Last night she woke at 3 and wouldn't settle for 2 hours.  Finally we took her out of her crib.  Why does she keep waking?

[ZacsMumme]

That sounds like UT, hence you may e entering the 2-1 territory. Are her NW happy then annoyed?

[2ndTimeAround]

I have her only napping once a day; at 1pm and she usually sleeps 2-2 1/2 hrs.  She then starts her WD at 7pm and in bed at 8pm. She is usually happy then angry when she NW. She kicks and arches her back. She is staying awake for two + hrs at these NW's.  What should we do when she won't go back to sleep? Should we pick her up and comfort her?  And how can we avoid these NW's all together?

[ZacsMumme]

I wonder if you have hit a wonder week - developmental leap? Z does this when he goes through them
http://thewonderweeks.com/index.php/about-the-wonder-weeks/your-babys-10-leaps/mental-leap-8
Is she walking or trying too, any other milestones?

[2ndTimeAround]

She is standing and almost ready to walk but that's about it.  I think she is on schedule for her milestones.

For the last two nights DH has given DD a bottle for her NW at 4ish.  She then falls back to sleep until 8am.  Is this normal?  I thought she should be able to make it until morning but these NW's are so confusing.

[ZacsMumme]

For the last two nights DH has given DD a bottle for her NW at 4ish.  She then falls back to sleep until 8am.

Its probably the bottle/full tum helping her settle back to sleep.
Is she eating well during the day?

[2ndTimeAround]

I think she is.  Lately she needs us to rock her in our arms to fall asleep.  I don't know how to win.  We think we have it all worked out and then something new happens and she is more demanding at night.  At 12 months should she be getting a full bottle plus her cereal b4 bed?  She still hasn't cut her top teeth yet either.  Any day now.  We give her tylenol b4 bed some nights for the teething just in case.