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Re: HELP ASAP please!!! 30min nap but not crying and clearly OT!
« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2012, 04:54:52 am »
Oh dear :(  With the restlessness, if she's not eating for very long during the night, it could be a foremilk/hindmilk imbalance.  Could also be trapped wind.  The latter especially was a problem for us, and it just got better as DD got older.

I am going out of town for a few days, but keep the updates coming!
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Re: HELP ASAP please!!! 30min nap but not crying and clearly OT!
« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2012, 13:25:41 pm »
AWFUL!  we had 2 good nights with only one NF, but of course, ALL naps are still bad, and I'm having to resettle for all of them! as a result, I am getting next to no sleep and I really can't go on much longer. Her feedings are all wonky too, not always hungry when she usually is, and then super starving an hour later, so I'm so confused and frustrated. I feel like I don't even know what her hunger cues are, as she's always putting her hands to her mouth and flicking out her little tongue. Im such a mess - I'm trying everything, I even tried to hold through the jolts yesterday, but she still woke up - mind you, I only did try the once. I feel like this is a disaster and I just don't know what to do :'(
A couple observations
1. I ditched the soother - you were right, when it fell out, she woke up. And we did buy blackout curtains; now we just need a wider curtain rod so they extend a bit further beyond the window frame than they are doing now.
2. She seems very agitated in that swaddle, always writhing around, especially when she wakes early from a nap
3. I have noticed that the last day and a bit her naps are now about 40 min instead of 30 ... doesn't that mean UT? What the heck am I dealing with here?! I am so confused and frustrated, I have no idea what to do :(
4. If she's waking and not unhappy, should I even bother trying to resettle? How long do you give them to try and resettle themselves before going in and trying the shh/pat to get them back to sleep?
I usually am a firm believer in having to give everything a few days to kick in, but it's now been 3 weeks - I think I've reached my limit! I desperately need something to change. and it's hard to count small victories (like the fact that last night, once she was in bed and asleep, she didn't wake within the hour for the first time!) when you're so exhausted and it feels like everything, EVERYTHING, is an uphill struggle. I'm not expecting motherhood to be easy, but is it too much to ask for change when working so hard to achieve one?!
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Re: HELP ASAP please!!! 30min nap but not crying and clearly OT!
« Reply #32 on: June 26, 2012, 16:49:27 pm »
(((HUGS))) Erin!  I know the feeling of trying everything and it's not working and feeling so overwhelmed.  You keep waiting for "it" to work and when it doesn't, it can be so frustrating.  I wish these little ones came with their own individual manuals!

I noticed with my other 2 kids that the 35-40 min naps didn't always indicate OT or UT.  For a period of time, that is just what they napped.  SOmetimes I could extend, sometimes not.  I changed A times around and sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't.

I would say 90% of our naps are the 35 min ones.  Sometimes I can extend them in his crib, but other times I do have to pick him up and do some APOP to get more sleep out of him.  Luckiily this one likes the swing and if we transfer him to there he usually falls asleep again.  Sometimes it's just him sleeping in my arms, and dozing.  So not perfect naps, but trying to make do with 2 older kids running around.

I felt with my first, I could devote ALL my time to extend naps/HTTJ/W2S.  With my 2nd, his naps were horrid, and I tried some of those things but really it was hard.  This time around I haven't done any of the HTTJ/W2S because I just don't have the time when I have the other kids.

Hang in there...do what you can.  I've had a few really tough days (and nights) and lacking in the sleep department again.  That makes it all even worse!
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Re: HELP ASAP please!!! 30min nap but not crying and clearly OT!
« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2012, 15:05:14 pm »
Well, I tried HTTJ this morning after 1hr10min A time, and she's been sleeping now for 2.5hr! I even managed to get 20-30min of sleep myself, which I'm so thrilled about! and last night was decent - NF at 1am and 5am. I"m not going to hold my breath that this will keep up though, as I had 2 good nights followed by a horried night and horried day yesterday, so ... haha. we'll see. ;)



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Re: HELP ASAP please!!! 30min nap but not crying and clearly OT!
« Reply #34 on: June 27, 2012, 15:10:35 pm »
Take the little victories when they come:)
We have the same situation here with naps and I too have tried EVERYTHING. She just naps 40 min, wakes and I have to resettle in my arms to get any more out of her. Sometimes that doesn't even work, like now we are on an 2h A time after a 40min nap..... she just refuses to sleep.
I'm hoping for the magic 4month mark to do the trick!





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Re: HELP ASAP please!!! 30min nap but not crying and clearly OT!
« Reply #35 on: June 27, 2012, 15:52:18 pm »
me too eva, me too!



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Re: HELP ASAP please!!! 30min nap but not crying and clearly OT!
« Reply #36 on: June 27, 2012, 16:51:57 pm »
So when did you go in to HTTJ?  Right at the mark, or a few minutes earlier?
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Re: HELP ASAP please!!! 30min nap but not crying and clearly OT!
« Reply #37 on: June 27, 2012, 17:53:11 pm »
So when did you go in to HTTJ?  Right at the mark, or a few minutes earlier?

I went in around 30min and watched her .... so she was down for her 2nd nap at 1235pm and I saw her starting to stir around 113pm so applied the pressure and at around 118 or so she started to twitch and squirm a bit.....and i just kept on holdin'!



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Re: HELP ASAP please!!! 30min nap but not crying and clearly OT!
« Reply #38 on: June 27, 2012, 20:53:56 pm »
Did her eyes open and did she see you?  My DS2 always has his eyes pop open at 35 min...if he sees me, we are done for! lol
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Re: HELP ASAP please!!! 30min nap but not crying and clearly OT!
« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2012, 00:35:46 am »
they did open, but i gues didn't see me, plus, I wasn't looking at her so maybe that helped .... I was also sort of at her waist or lower, not really at her head level.... does that make sense?



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Re: HELP ASAP please!!! 30min nap but not crying and clearly OT!
« Reply #40 on: June 28, 2012, 08:06:28 am »
My DS2 always has his eyes pop open at 35 min...if he sees me, we are done for! lol

Same here, so I cover her eyes with a muslin at 30min and pick her up (just httj doesn't work any more, it's more like hold/bounce/rock/shhh/pat through the jolts) that way even if her eyes open, she only sees white





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Re: HELP ASAP please!!! 30min nap but not crying and clearly OT!
« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2012, 12:45:33 pm »
it cannot get any worse. I think those naps were too long yesterday, becuase around 430, she fell asleep for 20 min, then never got a catnap in, and of course, wouldn't settle at bedtime so was up every 30min ..... finally fed her around 1030pm and she slept from maybe 1145pm-245am, feeding, then woke screaming at 445am, and i just plopped her in my arms in the chair until 630am and she woke for the day at 645. of course, I got no sleep, I am a mess all over again.  I CAN'T DO THIS ANYMORE.
so of course, now this morning, her A time was pretty short, 1hr, bc so overtired, and she was yawning like crazy at that time, so I put her to bed for nap at 750am, and wouldn't you know it, at 817am she's awake and crying. I resettled  around 825, but then 15min later, awake again. She's now in the swing, which never guarantees me anything. I am so fed up. WHY CAN'T SHE JUST SLEEP?!?!?!?! I'm too tired today to HTTJ, but it's almost like, what the hell is the point of doing anything to help her anyway, when nothing is working at all??? I hate my life so much right now - it truly feels like there is no end or getting better in sight. All I do is cry all day, and I am taking zero enjoyment in her at all. It's so awful. :'(



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Re: HELP ASAP please!!! 30min nap but not crying and clearly OT!
« Reply #42 on: June 28, 2012, 13:02:48 pm »
I'm sorry :(  Does she have reflux at all?

The first couple of months are really hard...I didn't enjoy any of it either, tbh.  Things will get better, though...I promise! :-*
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Re: HELP ASAP please!!! 30min nap but not crying and clearly OT!
« Reply #43 on: June 28, 2012, 13:17:08 pm »
Hugs Erin!
I've spent many days crying so you are not alone.
I totally get why some animals eat their young....





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Re: HELP ASAP please!!! 30min nap but not crying and clearly OT!
« Reply #44 on: June 28, 2012, 14:06:02 pm »
thanks ladies. Well, just got 1hr nap in the swing (so I guess in total,  a 2hr nap this morning .... I"m waking her up now, as I don't want a repeat of yesterday night)

Does she have reflux at all?
I thought for a while she did, and even took her to see our fam doc twice and to a pediatric clinic, both docs said no she's fine. She does get hiccups a lot, and I do have to hold her up for a bit after eating .... so maybe a touch, but if it is reflux, she does seem like it's very very mild.

I totally get why some animals eat their young....
She is quite chubby, so I'm sure she'd be quite delicious ;)

thanks again :)