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Re: Help... Thinking about giving up
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2012, 08:37:54 am »
I'm so sorry your family have been so unsupportive >:( :(
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Re: Help... Thinking about giving up
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2012, 10:29:41 am »
I keep clinging to the breastfeeding as a way to establish that bond that he seems to have with everyone else but just does't have with me.
I clung to this for a long time because of a difficult birth and just not feeling a bond with DS for months after he was born but around 4-5 months, I just decided that I would breastfeed because that was the nutritional input I wanted for him, not for a bond and once the expectation of the happy smiling baby and happy smiling mummy with an amazing bond established by BFing was gone, BFing became easier.

If I remember right, you have a pretty fast letdown and he has been in pain with gas in the past. Its not a matter of him hating you, I promise (though it really is horrible to feel like that). Maybe its just that the bottle is a more consistent flow, or maybe your supply has increased since you're feeding him more often and he's getting the fire hose effect again (it may have been low enough to be easier for him to cope when he was getting bottles in the day).

Honestly, you've done amazingly well to have fed him as long as you have, especially with your mum and DH both pushing formula (BTDT too when my nipples were shredded in the early days).

I third the idea of keeping BF at night if you want to - he'll be more relaxed and you'll be more relaxed without the mum-scrutiny.

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Re: Help... Thinking about giving up
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2012, 03:39:34 am »
Huge hugs!!

I agree with whoever said that you need to decide for yourself and not because of what other people are telling you. I struggled too with BFing and thought if I could just make it to 6 months I would stop. Well I continued until 16 months, but in the beginning and when we hit rough patches or nursing strikes, it was so incredibly difficult to keep going.

I really relied on Lactation consultants, breastfeeding hotlines, breastfeeding groups, public nurses, etc. I called or visited them all!!
 Do you have anyone in your area that you could call or go see for a consult?

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Re: Help... Thinking about giving up
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2012, 17:29:28 pm »
Well, I haven't given up yet. My mom and I finally had it out about how I felt she was undermining me, and I think I got her to understand. I know she means well, she has more of an attitude of "whatever it takes for a happy baby and less-stress household" whereas I'm terribly Type A and want to do everything exactly right. But she's stopped trying to micromanage his eating, and meanwhile, I'm trying to take a page out of her book and stop trying to take everything so seriously.

My dad put it to me this way: There's a lot to love about the baby stage, but there's also a lot that's really hard. Sometimes it's just about surviving that phase and getting to the point where he's a little person, and then the real fun begins.

Anyway, I'm still going, but it's still been tough.

Typically it goes like this: He latches and starts drinking. He'll be fine for 1-2 minutes, all snuggled up and making little happy noises. Then he'll start bobbing on and off (and I'll start doing breast compressions), looking around (sometimes with milk spilling out of his mouth). Then he'll latch, take a couple sips, then pull off and start crying. At first he'll alternate -- he'll cry for a second, then latch again for a couple more sips, pull off, and cry. Eventually he starts crying more and drinking less. I'll switch to the other side, and the whole thing will start over again. When he's done with both breasts, he'll be crying for awhile and I'll have to walk or bounce him to cheer him up.

First thing in the morning he seems to do better, but as the day wears on, he loses patience. Especially the last feeding of the day, he just wants none of it. He'll be all happy and relaxed from his bath and a little mini-massage with lotion, and I'll bring him to my breast, and he'll skip straight to the little sips/crying part. I can feel the milk in my breasts, but he just won't drink it. That's probably the worst part of the day for me because I just want one last cuddle before bed.

In an ideal world, I'd just nurse more often and pump after feedings to help my supply, but trying to do all that while working would be difficult to impossible. Right now I feed him when he first gets up from a nap, then again after an hour or so, then he gets 30 minutes to an hour of activity (depending on his mood) before he goes to sleep.

Is this just a phase, or is it something else? It seems to only have been getting worse over the past month.

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Re: Help... Thinking about giving up
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2012, 18:10:11 pm »
Have you gone to a Lactation Consultant or talked to someone with expertise in this field?

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Re: Help... Thinking about giving up
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2012, 18:46:09 pm »
agree with PP....if you can get a LC to coem & watch you feed,they may be able to help you...it could be somethign v simple...my LC was an absolute angel!i was ready to pack it all in & she honest-to-goodness saved me (& my nipples TMI!!!)






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Re: Help... Thinking about giving up
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2012, 19:01:48 pm »
Actually I just got off the phone with one. Something I hadn't even thought of -- I had the Mirena IUD put in about a month ago, and while Bayer (the manufacturer) swears it won't have an effect on BM supply, the LC said she hears from a lot of women who got it who start having problems.

She recommended switching sides as soon as he starts bobbing on and off and massaging the first breast when he's on the second, and hopefully when he starts finishing with that one, the first will be ready for another letdown. She also suggested pumping after feeding to keep my supply up (noooo, not the pump!).

I'll keep you guys posted!

As for LCs, I tend to be hesitant because I've had mixed success... The first one I consulted was more of a "boob nazi" and made me feel crappy because we had been supplementing with formula and I was using a nipple shield, and basically told me I had to use a SNS system if I supplemented and get off the shield YESTERDAY. I walked out feeling like maybe breastfeeding wasn't for me. The second one was great, she was much more low-key and didn't make me feel like I was single-handedly destroying my baby's chances of getting into college by giving him a bottle once in awhile  ::)

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Re: Help... Thinking about giving up
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2012, 19:24:54 pm »
sorry...what's SNS?

how DARE that first LC make you feel in ANY way bad?!?!i'm so angry!BFing is hard enough without ANYONE daring to make you feel bad about it....grrrrr.....






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Re: Help... Thinking about giving up
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2012, 19:27:32 pm »
I feel like I've heard that about the Mirena too, though I can't remember where -- I hope that is an explanation that helps you.  The pump will help with supply though I understand your aversion to it!  Glad your talked to your mom too.  

Ugh on the LC, there's good and bad people in every profession, I wish that they didn't make people feel badly.  :(
Hope the second one is able to help you.

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Re: Help... Thinking about giving up
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2012, 19:47:53 pm »
Ah, that makes total sense.  It's a progesterone releasing BC, isn't it?  They're supposed to be ok, but I know my supply nose dived when I started on a progesterone only mini-pill with DS.

Good advice from this LC, although you could consider an SNS (supplementary nursing system, *happy*) now as it might keep him interested for a while longer instead of the bobbing as there would be milk coming from that too.
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Re: Help... Thinking about giving up
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2012, 19:51:08 pm »
sorry...being nosey now,but what does SNS entail?






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Re: Help... Thinking about giving up
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2012, 20:00:48 pm »
As for LCs, I tend to be hesitant because I've had mixed success


I hear ya! I had to go to 5 before I found a great one!

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Re: Help... Thinking about giving up
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2012, 20:16:25 pm »
oh no,really?that's the last thing you want when you're seeking help...i would just have assumed that if someone went into that profession they would want to be as supportive as possible...like was said though, i guess there's good & not-so-good in every profession






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Re: Help... Thinking about giving up
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2012, 20:26:58 pm »
I think it all depends on how they've been educated and what they personally believe. Some gave me all the shields, shells, etc I needed-whatever to encourage me to keep BFing and others were like how Mom2theChief described-very one dimensional in their approach.

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Re: Help... Thinking about giving up
« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2012, 20:50:06 pm »
a sns: http://www.medelabreastfeedingus.com/products/51/supplemental-nursing-system-sns

good on you! Have you considered reflux? the on and off can be that... does he seem in painn?
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