The final stages of the 1-0

[ZacsMumme]

He wanted a nap so he's gone to sleep at 1.50pm. I'm going to Wake at 2.30 to prevent late Bt...but when would you do Bt? Was thinking 12 hr day so 8pm?

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i did get call backs and used wiwo. What works wrt to asking me to stay with him even now is that I tell him I'll be back to check on him/ stay after doing xyz and he's usually out like a light within 5 mins...

There are times I've told DS I need the toilet and will come back to check on him, and yes he is usually asleep within a couple of mins.

Sara, sorry I'm not great at working out day lengths but I do know with mine I had to work out day length based on how much sleep he would have in 24 hrs.  For us it was 2hr nap 10.5 hr night, then 1hr 45 nap and about 10 hr night so his max sleep was around 12hrs.  Here then it was a 12 hr day when he dropped his nap but many do a 10.5hr day and a longer night.

I see you've mentioned developmental disturbances too, I would have thought that very likely with him just turning 3yo.
Good luck with the night!

[ZacsMumme]

Arghhhhhhhh honestly I feel like knocking my head against a brick wall!
So woke him at 3 and he's in there calling us and it's 9.15pm. Went for 8 BT because we thought he may have been OT. Immediately regret it. Nope. ... I think we may have him all wrong and he is plain old Ut. Because he's in a bed now not a cot he doesn't muck around and play - he calls us and feels scared because he is looking around.

So...DH and I are so over this...no more naps. I'm done.

I'm going to go with BT 10.5 to 11 hrs after WU...and wait for OT to hit. Then reassess....what do you think? (When I say OT I'm talking NT, ENW)

[michaeljacknnugg]

I'm with creations - how much sleep does he need in 24hrs? I'd aim for half an hour earlier to bed to ward off OT.

There comes a time when naps=evil and it could be that you've just hit it!

[Aishi]

Hugs hon. Agree with pp about time for nap to go...I found with nap dropping that even 30 min nap meant 5.5-6 hba to BT....but he was still ot if that makes sense?

And strangely once we got thru the extreme ot and he was doing 11.5-12h nights he asked for ebt and also did odd nap days too and still sttn with normal wu....

I like your plan of 10.5-11h days. Hopefully since he does tack if u stay consistent with nnds he will be able tobpush thru ot quickly xx

[ZacsMumme]

In the past he's done 12-13 total sleep but he's been sick all winter YK so that could pe part of it. He sleeps when he is sick.

But I'm finding with the nap he's up all night then does 10.5-11 so prob about 12 hrs. The nap is robbing total sleep. I do feel even on a NND ie today I'm going to maybe get this rubbish because part of me feels it's not just about sleep.

[michaeljacknnugg]

Well, if you stay consistent then at least his body will get a chance to get used to it and start expecting to sleep at the same time every day. Hopefully that will help.

[ZacsMumme]

Well, if you stay consistent then at least his body will get a chance to get used to it and start expecting to sleep at the same time every day. Hopefully that will help.

Yes, I think this maybe what he needs. We were finally getting no ENW on NND when this started so he was prob ready and I ruined it with a nap

[michaeljacknnugg]

It's only obvious in hindsight lovely, we are all feeling our way through this parenting lark!

[ZacsMumme]

Hun

So today
WU 8 (short night)
BT went for between 6-6.30 but he was done before 6 so lights out was ~6.10 and he did a few half hearted callouts then went to sleep.

Fx for a solid night to start us off

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FX for you. And sleepy vibes to Z.

[michaeljacknnugg]

Vibes!

[ZacsMumme]

Not going so well. I woke him when covering him up in his bed and think I interrupted his sleep because he woke and wanted to come see us at 10pm then ew at 5.45... Ugh....

So his night was broken but close to 12 hrs. His 13 hr nights seem to have gone

What should I go for today. I want to avoid a nap - quiet time at 1 BT 6?

[Aishi]

Hi hon

Sorry I've been awol- been having my own sleep shenanigans here

I would aim to have asleep by 6 so pd a little earlier? Fxd for u hon and vibes for a long night xx

[TB9]

DD1 did get to the point where she only needed 12hrs overnight, but there are some nights that she needs more.  To make things consistent I set bedtime and let her sleep as long as she needs in the am (luckily I can!) and she self regulates.  Now most nights she sleeps 12.5hrs, some nights more, some nights 12hrs.