Time for Gro-Clock or routine tweak?

[Lindsay27]

OMG I cannot handle this BT crap anymore!
So as I said WU this morning was 6:30am, so I tried for a 7:30pm BT tonight and it's been a half hour (so far) of complete shenanigans. 

The last 2 nights I've put him to bed a 8pm and those BTs have been flawless.

So...I don't know.  You'd think he wouldn't be UT after a 13hr day, but what the frig do I know.

[jessmum46]

I'd be trying earlier BT I think - DD struggles a lot with a 13h day even with a good nap, it just doesn't allow enough night sleep for her.  It could be your LO is crashing by the time it's a 13.5h day......

When and how long did he nap?

[Lindsay27]

I'm just really frustrated and I feel so bad because I know his teething is just making matters worse.  I *think* we had 5 NWs last night but honestly I stopped counting.  He was a wreck when he woke up this morning.  I'll try a 7pm BT tonight or maybe even a bit earlier.

When and how long did he nap?

Not entirely sure, I'd have to ask his CM.  He generally naps around 12:30 - 2:30 ish, but sometimes only 1.5hrs.

[Lindsay27]

Tried a 7pm BT last night, at it was the same story.  I just completely abandoned doing WI/WO because I literally could not handle 1.5 - 2hrs of it again, so I just stayed with him right from the get-go and it look him 45mins - 1hr to drop off.  It was the same at nap time today and I had to stay with him for him to fall asleep.

I am really starting to wonder if it's not simply a matter of routine, but some kind of development leap or separation anxiety (in combination with the teeth).   We've never had BT issues before even if he was a little OT or UT so I can't understand why his behaviour would all of a sudden swing sooo far from normal.  He's also been just plain angry.  He had 1 NW last night and the only way I can describe it was pure rage...hitting me, trying to bite my hands, just complete hysterical shrieking and nothing was calming him down.  It took me and hour to settle him and then DH ended up having to sleep on his floor from 3am - 5am.

[My little Liam]

I dont know if you saw my post a few weeks back, but we went through the same exact thing. Screaming at nt, bt and nw. Just pure hysteria. I sat with him at nt and bt and slept on the floor from the first nw for 2-3 weeks. One day it was just over.... I am pretty sure it was developmental, although he was also teething canines at the time.

[Skadiver13]

I just want to say that LO does this EVERY bt or nt for me. BUT if it's DH or the babysitter he is fine.. Has DH tried putting him to bed with a different result? Just curious. Because that would point to developmental or SA.

[Lindsay27]

Has DH tried putting him to bed with a different result?

Same result with both of us unfortunately.

He sort of did this when his molars were coming through, but not nearly as bad...definite SA then too though.  I keep trying to tell myself that it's just a phase (which I'm sure it is), but in the meantime it's just exhausting.  Sigh. 

[jessmum46]

How are things hun?

[Lindsay27]

Not much better unfortunately, and to make matters worse he got a cold a few days ago which has now progressed to croup, so he had an attack at 4:30am last night the poor guy, and crying makes it SO much worse.  So, for now...lots of love and snuggles.  Maybe this whole time he just wasn't feeling right?

[jessmum46]

Oh bless him I hope he's better soon xx

[Lindsay27]

I don't want to jinx it but I think we *may* have turned a corner.  DS is mostly better and the last few days we've been having a WU of about 6/6:30 and a BT of 7:30/45 and all is going fairly smoothly.  A little bit of BT antics (stalling BT...he needs his water, his song turned on, the night light turned on...you name it, he'll use it) and he usually throws his lovey out at least once (just so we'll retrieve it), but this all lasts maybe 10mins and then he's off to sleep.

I really think this all started because his canines were cutting and then it all became such a disaster and he was so OT and then it just snowballed.  I think for the time being we will try 7:30 BT and hope that keeps giving us 6:30 WUs or there about and go from there.

Holy...what a month that was!  I REALLY hope it's over!

[Skadiver13]

that's great news just curious what nap you are doing?

[Lindsay27]

His hap is usually 1.5 - 2hrs from about 12:30/1 - 2:30, though on the weekend because he wasn't feeling well he had a few mammoth naps close to 3hrs.

This morning was a WU a few mins before 6, so I'll try to bring BT forward a bit tonight.

[Skadiver13]

Gotcha.. Now this may not work for you but I can't believe it's been working for me so maybe give it a shot? Liam has been doing 1.5 hr naps now for a week and seems to be taking to it well enough. He naps from 1-2:30 BT of 7:30. He has bed time shenanigans too BUT we've turned it into a game. Instead of trying to calm him down by low lights/ music etc. We've done the opposite. We make BT a game. We tickle, read books dance to music then about 10min before he should be asleep I pick him up and do something funn ylike "is it a bird or a plane no it's liam" and zoom aroudn the room into his crib. Then I do the chicken dance going back and forth to his crib with a tickle. This sounds rediculous and i'm sure it looks rediculous but I started this 2 weeks ago and I can't believe I can now just shut the light off and leave the room. He'll cry out a few times and I just call out knock it off and go to sleep and he does just that.

Also he's been popping up at 5:30/6 crying out and I do the same thing I yell out go back to sleep. My DH did it at 6 today and I kid you not this child slept till 8:30 with DH havin to wake him up. this has NEVER happened EVER!!! I know he's old enough to understand go to sleep now so maybe it's worth a shot?