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Re: When they're awake for ages but not unhappy?
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2014, 11:38:29 am »
Good luck!
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Re: When they're awake for ages but not unhappy?
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2014, 07:53:30 am »
Last night was a bad one and DS was awake on and off 4.30-6am tho he was asleep at times. I left him with his white noise and popped his dummy in once or twice.

He also woke 10,1, 3.

Yday looked like this

A 5.55
S 9-9.30
S 11-12.50
S 2.40-3.20
Bed 6.30
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Re: When they're awake for ages but not unhappy?
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2014, 08:23:33 am »
Perhaps it's the dummy he is waking for?
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Re: When they're awake for ages but not unhappy?
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2014, 08:04:25 am »
Yes I think I need to work towards getting rid of the dummy. Thinking if I get him used to no swaddle I can see if he can learn to put in his dummy/suck his hand/hold his comforter.

Last night was a shocker!

Bed 6.30
On/off crying 7.30-8
A 9,15. As I feed around 10 I decided to feed. He was a bit unsettled but went back off
A 1 I dummied him to extend to 2 and fed him
A 4.10-5.40 :( tried everything. He wasnt esp hungry. Left him for an hour dummying occasionally until he start to shout and cry. Then put him in bed next to me and after 10 mins he fell asleep
Up at 6.50
DD jan 2008
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Re: When they're awake for ages but not unhappy?
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2014, 07:56:29 am »
Last night was a bit better.

Ydays EASY was

A 6.45
S 9.45-10.20
S 12.40-1.50
S 4.30-5.10
Bed 6.45 sleep around 7.00

He struggled to get to sleep maybe late nap but persisted with shh pat.

Usual on/off wakes around 40-60 mins after going to sleep. Then usual feeds 9.30 and 1.30. Woke 4 and tried white noise and dummy. 4.30 I gave in to some AP and offered a little milk and cuddle and he went back to sleep until 5.45 in his cot.

He spent the whole night with 1 arm out f the swaddle. I thought it was so bad ATM that it couldn't make it any worse.
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Re: When they're awake for ages but not unhappy?
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2014, 09:15:50 am »
Is he crying when he wakes at 4ish? If not then I would just leave him to entertain himself until he goes back to sleep or cries for the dummy.

I ink you're right that he was UT at BT because if the longer, late nap and also the later morning WU. I probably would have woken him at 5pm from the nap and then shot for a 7pm BT.

Things might get worse with the weaning of the swaddle but I agree it is probably best to wean that and then see how he does with repluging the dummy.
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Re: When they're awake for ages but not unhappy?
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2014, 11:02:57 am »
He starts out shouting out and weak crying and shuffling around and just being quite wakeful. It turns to crying after around 40+ minutes but thus far has never resulted in him falling bak asleep by himself!
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Re: When they're awake for ages but not unhappy?
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2014, 19:45:01 pm »
Press ahead with the swaddle weaning then I guess :)
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Re: When they're awake for ages but not unhappy?
« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2014, 16:33:33 pm »
Still only one arm out of the swaddle.

Have had some awful nights the past week but also two days with later starts - 6.10 and 6.20. Have managed to keep him awake most or all of school run in morning and transfer him and resettle him
Midway thru that nap and manage a second nap around 1-2.30. It's a bit of a long stretch to bed at 6.30 but he's managed it. However the day that he had three short naps (due to docs appt am and DDs ballet class pm) he actually slept best.

Today he has started to nap in his own room. I want him to get used to his own room in case in disturbing him or tempting him with milk!!!

Yday went like this

A 6.20
S 9.10-10.45
S 2.15-3.45
Bed 7

Woke and had small feeds at around 11 and 2.
V awake at 4.10. Ignored it/hand on tummy with white noise and tried to contain his waggling arm for about 30 mins then picked him up to try to help him with cuddles and offer of milk (AP I know) he dozed off for maybe 10-20mins and I did a further 30 mins of hand on tummy and trying to contain his crazy arm. Then gave up about 5.40.

Today
S 8-8.45
S 1.30-2.30
About to try a catnap but not sure ill succeed.

I'm knackered! So many 3/4am wakeful patches.
DD jan 2008
DS August 2013

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Re: When they're awake for ages but not unhappy?
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2014, 06:43:58 am »
No catnap yday so he had about 1.5 hours sleep all day :(. Just remembered he did have a brief extra nap on a buggy walk mid morning so more like 2 hrs.

Terrible night unsurprisingly.

Bed at 6.45
Usual wake up on/off at 7.30 for about 15 mins shh/pat replace dummy couple of times

Then -
A 9.30 (dummyx2)
A 11.30 (fed)
A 12.30 shh pat for ages kept spitting out dummy. Gave calpol in case teeth
A 3.30 shh pat/white noise/gave dummy
A 4.30 as before
A 5.15 cuddled and tried to jiggle him to see if I cd get him to sleep anymore he dozed off for about 10 mins but woke soon after being put down.

I feel like I've had no sleep. Losing the will to live!! I've got to sort this out - back to work in just under three months.

Reason for ydays short nap was I left OH in charge of DS whilst he napped so I cd go and nap in another room. OH has never managed to resettle DS during a nap and said he woke cheerful and v awake looking after 35 mins.
DD jan 2008
DS August 2013

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Re: When they're awake for ages but not unhappy?
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2014, 20:16:31 pm »
Do you the it is time to let the other arm out? Maybe he would be happier finding his own sleeping position? When I weaned the swaddle at 8mo my DS2 was much happier being able to roll onto his side. I still put him down on his back as per SIDS recommendations but let him roll over if he wanted to. That solved the waggling arm problem.
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Re: When they're awake for ages but not unhappy?
« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2014, 20:48:05 pm »
I was kind of thinking the same thing actually. Maybe if he could roll himself into a different sleeping position he'd be happier.





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Re: When they're awake for ages but not unhappy?
« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2014, 15:13:37 pm »
Yes you could be right. HE also sleeps on a large pillow thing called a toddlepod which I think I need to get rid of as it keeps him more on his back. The time I tried tho he was trying so hard to move all round the cot in his swaddle he was awake half the night. But I do think he needs to move on from the swaddle and the toddlepod.

Last night was relatively better. He had a late nap which seems to improve things. Yday he had 4 short naps, the last 5-5.20. Bed at 7 and sleep at 7.20. Night was:

Bed 7.20 calpol in case teething. One arm out of swaddle
Wake 12.45 and fed
Wake 3.00  Both arms escaped swaddle. Resettled with my arm on his tummy for about 30 mins. ADded white noise and kept trying to contain his arms. After a while reswaddled and offered milk and he had a small bit.
On/off waking for the next few hours. Both arms escaped swaddle again. White noise going all the while.
5.30am Reswaddled both arms and he took a big feed both sides. Slept til 6.35am

Today so far
1 great long nap! 9.45-11.15
Went down for this nap 14.30.

So no late nap today, it wont' work. Interesting to compare the nights now...
DD jan 2008
DS August 2013

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Re: When they're awake for ages but not unhappy?
« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2014, 20:53:37 pm »
Good luck with the wean :)
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Re: When they're awake for ages but not unhappy?
« Reply #29 on: March 11, 2014, 13:21:49 pm »
So last night was bad despite the perfect EASY in the day. started well as he went off to sleep like a dream but had two really long wakeful patches around 1am and 3am (as well as a wake at 11am) and a 5.55 start.

Today - arms not in swaddle and not in his toddlepod. Nap was only 45 mins. He was still sleepy and I got him back off to sleep with some AP but after 10 mins he woke again and his arms were so crazy I struggled to hold them and he just woke himself up too much.  So he's had a carseat nap of 45 mins and a unswaddled bed nap of 45 mins. Seems a bit tired and grumpy so I've no idea what next.

Should I keep the arms out and no toddlepod for the night?! EEk scared to.
DD jan 2008
DS August 2013