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Offline Nickie18

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27 month old sleep regression
« on: July 13, 2014, 03:51:56 am »
Angel baby down ti one nap at 8 months and was a great sleeper until recently...

Now sometimes at naps and more at bedtime, starts screaming as soon as I leave the room for no reason! Just crying ans screaming.  I ask right way what the problem is and all he says is "yeah". lays back down, I pat his back, go to leave room and he cries again. makes no sense. No reason for crying is obvious. Let him go a few minutes, go back in, same thing. Usually goes to sleep after 10-15 minutes, but tonight screaming for 40 minutes! My hubbie was sleeping in the room with him, but I cannot as I am alone to night and have to be available for my 4 month old. I also do not want to start a bad habit...

What do I do??



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Re: 27 month old sleep regression
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2014, 09:31:37 am »
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Re: 27 month old sleep regression
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2014, 15:44:13 pm »
He woke again at 4am screaming and not consolable... finally fell asleep at 4:30am

Wake: 6:30-7
eat: 8am
Eat: 12pm
Nap: 1-3 pm (on ando ff, sometimes just in bed playing... Sometimes cries here too)
Eat snack: 4pm
Dinner: 6pm
Bed: 8pm

Maybe he is ready to ditch the nap? Maybe he just is not tired and crying to get to sleep? I would really miss nap time...

A lot of new things recently- 4 month old sister, mom going back to work soon, started day care half days twice a week. Not quite sure...



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Re: 27 month old sleep regression
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2014, 22:38:57 pm »
It could IMO be a combo of those things or completely unrelated. I say that because at this age my DD (angel/textbook) did exactly the same. Though, she was not crying inconsolably as you describe - more like BT and NW shenanigans, closely followed by Naptime shenanigans. R was also having  2h nap (1-3pm) as your LO is.

reciepe? theres no magic answer but we did this. moved the nap to 1.15pm and capped at 1h45m (so WU is still the same). Kept the day no longer than 13h but was prepared for EBT in the event she as super tired or broken nap and remaining consistent - stick to the rules with a huge dollop of love and understadning. They way I figured it, she didn't even know what was plaguing her any more than I did. So I offered reassurance and if she was really upset cuddles, but to IMO as a genral rule and then exist, FASR!!!

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Re: 27 month old sleep regression
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2014, 23:03:33 pm »
Today we tried nap at 1:30pm and he cried as soon as I left. Stopped when I entered. Just sitting in bed crying. so got him up and did quiet time in his room for an hour. I guess we will see. I will not sleep in his room and I do not want him sleeping in mine, so the other option is crying it out as a rule is a rule, but I cannot do it during the day.

Not sure what else to do...



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Re: 27 month old sleep regression
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2014, 06:01:40 am »
CIO is not IMO the answer, whatever time of day. It breaks the bind of trust between LO and their carers. We used Wi/WO and were sucesful. How about trying that?

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Re: 27 month old sleep regression
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2014, 21:28:12 pm »
I cannot stand CIO either- but he said to me today "if I go to nap, I will cry so loud"!!! So, not sure if it is a CIO issue or if he is just crying because he does not want to be in there... Today was better:)



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Re: 27 month old sleep regression
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2014, 06:12:00 am »
Oooh, what a monkey! I think he knows what he's doing don't you? Iiwm I'd do wi/WO - it will get you back in control again and deal with the issue if him not SS.

Hon, I am sure you know, but given what you've been saying, I need to just say we cannot support any form of CC / CIO here at BW. There are methods available here that you can implement that do not adversely affect LOs in the same way CC/CIO does. Have a look at this and hopefully you will see why:

Research on why 'cry it out' and 'controlled crying' is NOT recommended!

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Re: 27 month old sleep regression
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2014, 15:14:45 pm »
What is wi/wo? I do that now when he cries... I don't just let him cry.



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Re: 27 month old sleep regression
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2014, 17:23:21 pm »
Walk in /Walk out = Wi/WO

Here's a link which explains the method you may well be implementing anyway.

Walk In/Walk Out vs. The Gradual Withdrawal Method (HOW TO CHOOSE)

Sorry if I got the wrong end of the stick re: CIO - I wasn't sure from you posts that you weren't contplaying trying that yk?

Anyway, have a look at the link and see if that's what you have been doing or if you have any questions. How has today been?

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Re: 27 month old sleep regression
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2014, 19:21:54 pm »
So now the sleeping has gotten worse. Doing WI/WO but now he is not crying when he goes down, just wants the lights on and door open. No crying to sleep, but will wake up 2-3 times a night wanting us and the lights on again... (we were turning them off and leaving night light on after he fell asleep). is 28 months a normal time for night terrors? he never explains why he wants the lights on and won't tell us if any nightmares... Poor guy- he is doing so well otherwise. We now ask him if he wants a nap=- sometimes yes, sometimes no.



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Re: 27 month old sleep regression
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2014, 19:35:44 pm »
Hey,

Well it sounds like some progress is being made, which is great.

I don;t know about night terrors as R never had them. She's ha dthe odd bad dream where I just go in, reassure her she's ok and all is safe etc and stay for a bit if needs be.

Let me see if I can get you some more eyes from anyone whose BTDT re: night terrors - they may be of more help to you yk re: how to manage them and re-settling.

Great work on the independent sleeping though, that's fab progress

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Re: 27 month old sleep regression
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2014, 19:45:04 pm »
Nickie I could have written this myself.  DS is 26 months and needs door open and night light on.  He is waking at least once a night but sometimes 2 or 3.  Sometimes he's actually awake and others he's completely disoriented.  I pretty much have to wait until he's asleep before I can leave.



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Re: 27 month old sleep regression
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2014, 19:46:08 pm »
Doesn't sound like night terrors -- when they have a night terror, they don't know that you're there -- it's almost like they're still asleep, but screaming through it and nothing you do really helps.  It sounds like you're on the right track with working with the routine, I think you just need to keep tweaking until you get it right. 

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Re: 27 month old sleep regression
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2014, 19:48:03 pm »
Do you know ladies it's just occurred to me that R had sleep shenanigans at this age. She was really needy etc and would wake crying in the night. As it turned out she was cutting her molars, and that was waking her suddenly and no doubt was scary. Could it be something as simple as that?

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