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For those who moved to one nap really early
« on: December 09, 2014, 20:10:50 pm »
Still struggling with the 2:1.

What was your EASY like when you went to one nap?
 
I know my lo sleeps better at night with one nap, I know he can do the long A time if he has a god night. I'm just not confident to go for it and move to one nap, everything I read says hold on to two for as lo gas poss... He's only 10 months! But we can't carry on as we are, he's not settling, fighting naps and bedtime massively, waking in the night for hours on end. Granted there is some teething in the mix, possibly SA too. Was considering PD few days ago to help him settle but on discussion with my hubby we think he just needs less day sleep.

Interested to see what your routines were if you wouldn't mind sharing?

Not sure what to do...

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Re: For those who moved to one nap really early
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2014, 20:14:09 pm »
Hey hun, others with the sort of experience you're talking about will be along in a mo, I'm sure. But it might help them to comment if you post a rough EASY.  What are his A times like? 
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Re: For those who moved to one nap really early
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2014, 20:37:38 pm »
Thank you for your reply. His EASY is a mess currently. Ill post a couple if days from last week which illustrate the situation we're in ( I posted this on the pu/pd board last week.

WU-8 am
E- 8.30 breakfast ( had first bottle at 5.30)
A
E- 9.30 mid morning bottle ( normally has between 10-11am but due to early first bottle, was crying for it here )
A
E- 12.50 lunch ( tried to pd for nap numerous times but wouldn't, he was fighting it, so ended up giving lunch otherwise it would've been too late)
A
S-13.25 for 1.5 hrs
E- 15.00hrs pm snack
A
E- 16.30- dinner
A
S- 19.40 bed

Slept all night woke next day at 7am

WU -7am bottle
A
E 8 am breakfast
A
S 10 am for 25 mins (we were in the car and he always falls asleep if we are in the car at the 3hr mark)
E-10.30 mid morning bottle
A
E 12.30 lunch
A
S-14.05 for 1.5 hrs
A
E-17.00hrs dinner
A
S-7.45

Woke at 1am for 30 mins then 4.45 for 1hr. Second wake due to teething I think.
 Should also say he has another bottle before bed but forgot to list that above.

In hindsight after such a good night on the first EASY posted I should have stayed home that day and pushed the A again to try a consecutive one nap day and how that night would have been. But I went out and he fell asleep in the car. Am kicking myself now for not staying home :(

Although the first EASY posted has a very long A, he just refused to go down any earlier, I'd say his A time typically after a good night can be 4.15-5 hrs. At the moment we seem to be having one nap days couple times a week followed by a two nap day ( because we're out and he sleeps in the car). It's a mess and I don't have the confidence to go cold turkey on the one nap because it goes against the general advice.

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Re: For those who moved to one nap really early
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2014, 20:58:35 pm »
People do alternate one and two nap days, it's quite normal. 

I'll leave off now and wait for more experienced heads.  But I would say to go with your instinct, you know your baby best :)
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Re: For those who moved to one nap really early
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2014, 12:51:13 pm »
Hi, we went CT to one nap at 10mo. I just had enough of the inconsistency and DD was immune to apop.

This is what we did initially.. Around 10mo I started pushing the A time first thing massively, DD was super prone to UT 45mins naps and can do a full A time on an UT nap. So, I had to bite the bullet. We've always had wu here from around 6-6.30am but she's normally happy playing around in there until I come and get her. So unless she was upset, I kept her in bed until 6.30am and started the A time from there. Tbh it did help not wondering exact what time she woke to start counting the A time!

So first I pushed her to 11.30am, held it for around a week. We were getting ok naps around then I think about 1.5hrs. Then I did EBT at 6pm. This did not work out too well as we were getting OT WU's in the early part of the night, so I knew I had to push the A first thing again. So I jumped to 12pm nap time. Please do bear in mind though, I knew my DD could cope with the huge jump in A first thing. And bam, we started getting 2.5hr naps for all of about a week I think. BT was 7. Again we got OT NW's if the last A was more than 5hrs. Then the nap reverted back to 1.5hrs, so I knew I had to push the time again to 12.30pm, where we still are now. I had to cap the nap to 2hrs eventually, but throughout the summer it was nice having 2.5hrs out in the garden! All in all, think we were all sorted and through it within 6wks I think? Felt like forever at the time though. One link I found super helpful is the one about set naps and the how, whys and bumps of the 2-1. I read these every day to reaffirm I was doing the right thing. Back in a mo to post them for you. Hth x

from 2 to 1 nap - how, when and the bumps

Set naps for toddlers: Why, How and When
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Re: For those who moved to one nap really early
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2014, 13:00:25 pm »
Forgot to add, there were times DD woke stupidly early and wouldn't go back to sleep (ie. 5am). On those days I made a point to be out in the car 4hrs later at 9am so she could have a quick 15mins CN. Then, I knew she could get to her usual 12.30pm nap time and not mess about with that nap too much. For me, the idea that I wasn't putting her in bed meant that I wasn't 'letting' her have a nap and reinforcing the emw's iykwim? Then I could continue and be consistent for her with her usual nap time.



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Re: For those who moved to one nap really early
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2014, 13:44:38 pm »
DD1 went to one nap at 9mo.  She preferred a long A before bed, so she would often fight her pm catnap.  Her typical day when she first transitioned to 1 nap was something like 4.5hrs A in the am, then 2 hr nap (or longer), then 6hrs A before bed  :o

I think it depends very much on when your LO likes to have the most A time  :)

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Re: For those who moved to one nap really early
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2014, 15:26:18 pm »
Thanks for the replys. im not sure about it. I feel ike i need to have exausted all other avenues before im brave enough to just do it. Im toying with trying the short am nap long pm nap suggested to me on another thread. How does this sound;
WU- 6-7
A-3hrs-3.15
S-30mins apop if needed
A-4 hrs
S-1-1.5hrs
A-4-4.5 hrs

I'm trying not to do naps after 3.30pm so A times have to be short to fit them in. I want to try this to see if it works (so I can stick to two nap) but I'm not sure if all the apop I'm currently having to do might be down to UT. The short first A means I can still go out of a morning so he can nap in the car. I'm not convinced, but willing to try it before having to push for one nap. Id really appreciate your honest thoughts.

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Re: For those who moved to one nap really early
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2014, 15:55:42 pm »
You can but try hun, that's always my philosophy! Give it a good week or two, if there's no improvement then I suppose there's only one way forward   ;)

At least if you try and it works, you can hold it for a bit and he'll be a little older and *might* handle the OT a little better when he does go to one nap? Up to you really, you know him best x



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Re: For those who moved to one nap really early
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2014, 19:56:11 pm »
Thanks for the support and reassurance Kellyjs. I will give it a go for 1-2 weeks and see how it goes. Even if it only works for a month, like you say he'll be that bit older and hopefully better able to cope. Keeping my fingers crossed, and if it doesn't work out then one nap here we come!

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Re: For those who moved to one nap really early
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2014, 06:28:39 am »
Good luck  :)



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Re: For those who moved to one nap really early
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2014, 14:57:22 pm »
Hi,

I'm not sure if I should have started a new thread. Sorry for posting so frequently. But my plan of short am nap, long pm is backfiring!

I said id give it 1-2 weeks but its just not going to work. I've been putting lo down after 3-3.15hrs A first thing which he fights but goes off with me rocking. Ive woken him at 30 mins. Then second A have been luring down between 3.5-4hrs but this requires LOTS of apop. Rocking, shhing, walking up and down etc. he really fights it. Has been throwing his dummy on the floor and laughing. If I put him in the cot he laughs and stands up. For past five days he's done an 30 mins- 1hr 10. I know 30 mins is considered OT generally but for us it's UT I think. I thought this plan would work. But it's not. Cant give a long am nap as he refuses pm nap and it ends up too close to bt.
Night times have varied as usual so no major changes with the nights. Except he has slept through till 5 twice.

What can I do?
Today he woke at 6.30am ( had a bottle at 5am) then napped for 30 mins (I woke him) at 9.40am. Then I couldn't get him down for lunchtime nap till 2.40pm which considering I don't want him to nap after 3.30pm is not ideal. He just did not want to go down, laughing, playing etc. I suspect he'll wake after 30 mins then that will be an hour sleep all day!
Shall I cap the am nap to 20 mins in the hope I will get a lunchtime nap?

Sorry to keep posting, I just want to get this right. I've got to bite the bullet and move to one nap, that is clear to me now. :(

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Re: For those who moved to one nap really early
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2014, 19:19:40 pm »
Not at all sweetie, you have to post when you need help! As I said before this transition is super tough.

I think the main problem is all the apop isn't it? For one nap it would be ok, but for 2 that's bordering on prop territory.

I totally get all what's going on, it must be so frustrating for you. Yes, I would totally cap that first nap to 20mins. Towards the end of the transition I was capping DD's pm nap to that (when she took one that is  ::)). The tricky part would be figuring out the correct A time after that 20mins nap. I could never get it right with DD. What do you feel he could do? I'd be tempted to push it to 3hrs (perhaps even longer if we can do 4hrs on 30mims) and see if you can get him down without apop?



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Re: For those who moved to one nap really early
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2014, 19:52:39 pm »
If it helps,  we went to one nap at 10 months and we eeked it out by doing a 20 minute nap and then a 1hr 20ish nap.  From what I remember, he did around 4hrs A, a 20 minute nap, then 3hrs 15A, a 1hr- 1hr20 nap, then about 3hrs 30 A til bed I think. That last A might have been a bit longer if WU was early in the morning. J prefers a long morning though.  If your LO prefers a longer afternoon you could do a short nap after 3hrs 30 or something and do a longer A before bed. 

Though I have to say we did get to the point where that just didn't work any more - I couldn't AP a nap at 4hrs A and nights were getting really short so we just went for one nap the week J turned 10 months.



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Re: For those who moved to one nap really early
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2014, 20:04:20 pm »
Thank you sooo much for the support.

I too am not too happy about all the apop and worry its fast becoming a prop :(

So, shall I do a 20 min nap after 3hrs A first thing then start with another 3 hrs A before the next nap and see how we go for 3 days? If I do get a good nap ( please god!!) then shall I let him sleep as long as he wants?

Another question (sorry), if we have a bad night shall I just plough on with the plan for consistency if I think he can handle it? I know OT is inevitable somewhere along the way with this transition.