2-1 transistion at 9 months?!

[Chloevalentine]

Today he woke around 650 napped from 10:10-1145 and I was actually able to get him to nap at 345! It's late but at least I got him to sleep. I'm thinking I'll wake him if he doesn't after 30 mins and do bedtime at 7. Think that might work moving forward? He usually wakes earlier and naps earlier though but he seems to need that 4 hr A time before second nap.

[Chloevalentine]

He was passed out took a while to wake him. Finally got him up at 430 from 345. Hope I don't regret it later

[becj86]

Good to find an A time that works for the 2nd nap! FX it works for a while for you.

BT at 7:30 is reasonable after a 45min nap, that's a reasonable length day too.

[Chloevalentine]

It did work out well. And he went to bed awake and shortly fell asleep by 730. Going to see if tomorrow he'll do the same hopefully a bit earlier though.

[Chloevalentine]

Just wanted to post a follow up. He's waking on average between 615-7 naps from 930-11 or 10-1130 on average 1.5 hrs and then I've been trying to get a 30 min nap around 4 hrs A time so around 3/330-4 then bed by 7/730 depending when he woke in the morning But usually 3 hrs a time before bed. The nap more than likely happens in the car as he still has a hard time going down in crib for that nap don't know why.

[becj86]

Sounds like the beginning of 2-1. Those APOP naps can be a godsend. Keep them while you can

[Chloevalentine]

I don't think he's ever taken three naps he most of the time takes just the one nap early in he morning and is up all day which is hard so the only time I can get him to catnap is around 330 which is late. Today it took me 20 mins to get him to sleep for a 30 min nap! Which seems crazy. He just fights it but I'm it able to take him in the car every day. 2-1 already? I've just gotten him on a 2 nap from 1 nap lol I'm working backwards lol

[becj86]

It takes months before they're on 1 nap fully. Its just the beginning of a transition

[Chloevalentine]

I wonder how it will work out with having to pick up the older one from school ? Isn't the nap usually around 12 when they drop to one?

[becj86]

Doesn't have to be. Can be later or earlier but tends to be inthe middle of the day.

[Chloevalentine]

Why is the afternoon nap so hit or miss? We've always struggled with it. What do you do if he doesn't take any afternoon nap? Today he was up at 6 napped from 930-1045 and I tried for a 245 nap he usually isn't ready until at least 4 hrs A time. I usually put him in crib awake and he'll stand and chat and eventually fall asleep. Today it's been 15 mins and he's still up? Do I just go back to ebt? I hate doing that because he usually will only sleep 11 hours. I'm trying to get him to wake around 630 am but it's hard to get him to 730 pm especially if he's not napping in afternoon

[becj86]

What do you mean by EBT? One reason it often fails is that its not early enough.

We had difficulty with sleep around this age with SA... i just sat in the corner of the room reading my book though that's probably tricky with a 3yo as well.

[Chloevalentine]

You mean the nap isn't early enough ? I meant early bedtime since he's been up all day.

[becj86]

No, I mean people don't do EBT early enough - 30min earlier than normal isn't enough to make the difference. We did EBT as early at 4pm (he slept 14hr solid) but it does leave you with the possibility of it being perfectly reasonable for LO to want to get up at 4am.

[Chloevalentine]

I've been working on getting his bedtime later in hopes for a later wake time in the morning but no luck so far mornings are still early. His schedule looks like this lately:

6-615 awake
630 bottle 730 breakfast
930-11 nap on average 1.5 can be 1 hour but usually 3-3.5 A time
1130 lunch
2 bottle although he's not too interested in this bottle
3-330-4/430 nap this is the still tricky as to when he falls asleep. I usually try a 4 hr A time but he usually doesn't fall asleep until 315-330 no matter what time I start trying. He'll also either 30 mins to 1 hr.
7/730 bottle and bedtime usually 3 hrs A time before bed

Is there something I can change as he doesn't seem to sleep later in the morning after a later bedtime