Now almost 7 Mos and night waking! Help!

[becj86]

Hmmm... Certainly some babies are still hungry for a feed - I found doing topup BFs/offering EBM in a cup/bottle at solids times helped increase the calorie intake in the day and helped drop NFs around this age. Is she waking just the once? Wonder if there's an OT/UT cycle going somewhere in there. Can you post a few days in a row, please?

[ac333]

Ok, so the past few days as follows:
W 7
S 1035-1215 (planned for an putting so longer am nap)
S 3:45-4:30
S7:30
Woke 1:30 bf and went to sleep

W7:15
S 10:45-11:55
S 3:15-430
Putdown 7:40 cried and slept 8:20
Woke 2:20 and 6:30 bf both

W 7:15
S 10:35-11:45
S 3:15-4:30
S 8
W 4 (bf and back to sleep)
W 6:30 pu/pd w no success

Thx in advance.

[ac333]

Ok tonight is a huge flop.
She had two good naps of 1h15min approx
My dh put her down around 7:45 and she still isn't asleep - it's 9:45.  So we have been at it for 2 hours. Doing pu/pd, and shushing. I have no idea what's going on..
Her naps seem ok altho she seems tired still after she wakes, not sure if it's bc she's had so many ew's.
I would say this is her nite sleep at its worse. It may hav been bc we swapped after an hour which we never did before - bc we never had to.
Tonight is a really challenging one....
Any suggestions? 

[becj86]

Aw Its hard when LO just won't go to sleep. Run through and check for pain, hunger, etc as you usually would. If she's not upset, leave her to it, she'll fall asleep/cry out for help eventually. If she's upset, stay with her and do your best to soothe her.

W 7S 1035-1215 (planned for an putting so longer am nap)S 3:45-4:30S7:30Woke 1:30 bf and went to sleepW7:15S 10:45-11:55S 3:15-430Putdown 7:40 cried and slept 8:20Woke 2:20 and 6:30 bf bothW 7:15S 10:35-11:45S 3:15-4:30S 8W 4 (bf and back to sleep)W 6:30 pu/pd w no success

This suggests to me that she needs a touch more A time - to make that long nap longer and to encourage her to keep sleeping in the early hours of the morning rather than waking earlier - and she's probably ready for one long nap and a short (20-30min) CN.

[ac333]

Ok. We did the long nap a couple weeks ago w no success. We can go at it again.
So for the long nap, shd I follow Tracy's suggestion and let her sleep as long as she wants or shd I cap it?

[becj86]

I would let her sleep up to 2hr, then cap if it gets to that.

What was the trouble when she was taking a longer nap? Refusing the catnap?

[ac333]

She would still wake up in the nite. Hopefully she's a bit more mature now. Will update in a week. Thanks so much. I'm Sooo tired...

[becj86]

How's it going?

[ac333]

Thx for checking in!
She has consistently been waking @ midnight....and sometimes we r in there for over an hr settling her.  But atleast she is good on all putdowns and she sleeping til 7:30 mostly.
W 7:30
S 10:30
W 12:15
S 345
W 4:30
S 8

At this point I'm guessing push her A times?  30min pm nap seems  short and I don't want her sleeping past 4:30.
Any suggestions are appreciated

[ac333]

O my, so tonight was a bit of a disaster.
She cried on pd few min after.
Not sure if ut or ot
I chg the sched
W 7:30
S 11
W 12:45
S 4
W 430
S 8 - but fought sleep til 9

I did just pd each time she stood up. And she thought it was fun so we did that for a half hr. Then I had to tend to my ds so I had to let her cry for a while. Once I went in I held her til she was practically asleep and then finally went down.
Geez, w my dh not here, it's what it has to be.

[ac333]

An update on past couple days.
I figured I would stick to the same schedule. W her napping @ 11am and 4pm.
Both nights she fought a few mins after I put her down.  Then both nights she woke at around 2am and 4/5am.
Brutal.
Does this mean I'm on the wrong track?
Should I go back to giving her even time naps and push her night sleep later?

[becj86]

I did just pd each time she stood up. And she thought it was fun so we did that for a half hr.

This sounds UT.

What's she doing when she wakes at night?

How old is she now? I'm losing track!

[ac333]

She's  10.5 mos. Our sleeps are everywhere the past few days.
Yest we put her down at 11am and she only napped til 1145.  I put her down earlier today but she cried so I pushed the sleep to 11:45 and slept 1h45m. But then she didnt sleep a 2nd nap. So I put her down earlier for nite sleep @ 7 and she cried.
I did wi/wo again .  In the end she became overtired so I nursed her but she cried when I ran out of milk so I prepped some formula and she slept after. She hasn't had formula since she was 3mos so not sure how her system will handle it.
Maybe she needed extra topup bc she was so tired?
She had a big dinner and I bf her before bed (which prob wasn't much).
Anyway, hope that is the reason.  Atleast I know that is one of the reasons she won't put down at nite.
So if she naps from 11:45- 1:30, how would the 2nd nap/catnap fit in?  Or would it be early bedtime? So confused and so exhausted.

[becj86]

You could try a stroller nap or similar around 4pm for 20-30mins.

You could try a short AM nap, capped at 30min then a longer PM nap - it can take some fiddling to find the right A time in the middle of that though. It will probably then become your routine for ~2-3months before you start moving even closer to 1 nap.

If the 2nd nap is only being refused sometimes, you can try EBT.

[ac333]

Hi, so last nite she woke up @ 11pm, and 3pm. Both times taking awhile to settle. I nursed her eventually bc she cried for so long. Today I chg'd her sleep bc she really didn't seem tired and she cried when I put her down before:
S 11:45
W2:30(i woke her)
Pd nite sleep @ 7:15
S 8:15
Her nap was great. But still she cried after I left the room for nite sleep. She didn't seem tired @ 7:15 which is unusual bc she's already been up for almost 5 hrs.
Could it bc she so use to sleeping around 8?
Should I b using wi/wo? When I come in she stops crying immediately, if I stay in she starts babbling and standing like it's play time...again not seeming tired. Once I leave she cries.
When should I feed her after she doesn't settle?  The past few days it took an hour and I worry she may get hungry.
Sorry I keep asking for tips. I'm struggling a bit.