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Playing during nap time
« on: November 20, 2006, 04:56:47 am »
My 10.5 month old DD has starting playing during her entire nap time a few times and I'm not sure what to do. I've been trying to get her used to me leaving before she falls asleep and she'll initially scream. I'll go in a few times to reassure her and/or lay her down, and will leave once she's calm or singing to herself.

If she's spent an hour singing to herself and playing, what do I do when she starts screaming for me to get her after an hour? Do I take her out and then try and put her down again if it isn't feeding time? If it's feeding time, do I feed her, let her play for 10 min and then put her back?

It's become really hard to read her sleep cues so I've been playing it by the clock. She's been a 45 min napper and I've been keeping her up 3 hours now and she's napping about an hour... when she naps.

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Re: Playing during nap time
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2006, 15:48:25 pm »
3 hours is a bit short of A time for 10.5 months. Maybe try extending to 3.5 hours and see if she's tired enough for a proper nap? Extend slowly - maybe 15 minutes over every 3 days or so...
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Re: Playing during nap time
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2006, 22:03:37 pm »
OK - so if I extend her A time, how long should her naps be? An hour each? I was under the impression her naps should be 2 hours each? Am I wrong?

She sleeps about 12 hours a night, that leaves 12 hours during the day. If A time is 3.5 hours, then she would have about 3 of those for a total of 10.5 A hours, that leaves 1.5 hours for naps - that means naps are about 45 minutes each if she has 2.

Am I calculating that correctly?
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Re: Playing during nap time
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2006, 22:38:36 pm »
OK - so it's happened again. After 3.5 hours of A time (I know I was supposed to go slowly, but we happened to be out) she once again didn't fall asleep. I may try again in a bit to put her down.

Maybe she's ready for a single nap? But that single nap would have to be longer than an hour, wouldn't it?
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Re: Playing during nap time
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2006, 22:43:17 pm »
I don't think she's ready for one nap at her age. And 2-two hour naps would be way too much if she's already getting 12 hours at night. I'd shoot for 2.5-3 hours naps total. If 3.5 hours isn't enough A time you can try 4 hours - in which case you should limit the first nap to 45 minutes and try for a 1.5-2 hour second nap...
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Re: Playing during nap time
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2006, 01:29:48 am »
Thank you! I'll give that a try tomorrow!
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Re: Playing during nap time
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2006, 18:50:29 pm »
Why is this so hard?

She seemed tired so I put her down early for her morning nap - at about 3 hours and it took 15 min for her to sleep - and she slept for barely 20 minutes!

I know she should be getting more sleep during the day, but I'm not getting the formula right and I feel like I'm just making things worse rather than better.

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Re: Playing during nap time
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2006, 18:53:22 pm »
My DD often seems sleepy in the morning too. But if I put her down too early she's either not sleep or take a short nap. At this age you may just have to go by the clock and extend her A times and try for a shorter first nap and longer second one...
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Re: Playing during nap time
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2006, 14:49:12 pm »
Hi, I wouldn't worry that much...she sleeps fine at night, and she does eventually go down for naps during the day
...Kids change...if we do too many calculations we'll go nuts :D...My DS wasn't able to stay up longer than 1H before he was 4 mos old, and now at 7 mos he almost sounds like your DD...taking a long time to fall asleep in the morning, after 3.5 A time...I guess they all change...
Tracy was right...when you think you got it, everything changes !?

Try different A intervals, find the one that works for now and enjoy your babe...these days never come back...
Hugs, and all the best to both of you :-*
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Re: Playing during nap time
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2006, 22:17:55 pm »
Thanks supermom... I'm trying to be relaxed about it because I don't think stressing about it helps, but I can't get over the feeling that she's not getting enough sleep. She slept about 10 hours last night so she does need a good nap.

I uess I'm going to need to play around with A time a bit. This morning she barely napped after 3.75 hrs of A time, maybe 15 minutes.

Now it's been 4 hours A time since her short nap (was that maybe too long? Should it have been shorter?) and she was falling asleep as I was breast feeding her and then started screaming as I put her in her crib, once I calmed her down by stroking her head she started singing to herself in her crib... I hope she falls asleep... Did I miss the sleep window?
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Re: Playing during nap time
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2006, 22:34:41 pm »
Crap - it's been 30 minutes and she's still singing to herself... no wait, I think she just stopped...

nope - went in when she started to cry. She's yawning and rubbing her eyes, is crying standing up with her head thrown back. Put her down a few times, but now she's back to playing and singing.
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Re: Playing during nap time
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2006, 23:14:53 pm »
Ugh - she finally fell asleep - took about 1 hour. Probably because she was over tired. Sorry for all the posts, but I just need to vent - I feel like I'm doing something wrong, otherwise she'd nap easier.
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Re: Playing during nap time
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2006, 06:33:29 am »
Venting again - but I have got to do something differently... She only slept for 40 min this afternoon. We were invited out for turkey day, resulting in a later than normal bedtime. Then she woke up about 30 min after going down and has been up and down since, which I know is a result of being overtired and I'm the one to blame. I've been going over the night waking boards and realized that the reason she wakes up within 2 hours of being put down for the night is because she is overtired and hasn't had enough sleep during the day. My poor baby. It doesn't help when my husband says that she's doing just fine - and she is, even when she's overtired, she's cooing, smiling, being social. It's when she wakes up after being put to bed that the difficulty begins.

Sorry - I guess this isn't the place to be venting like this.

So I'm trying to figure out a plan of action. I'm going to try to keep the first morning A time, from the time she wakes up to her first nap about 3.5 hours. If her first nap is too short or non-existant (i.e she plays the whole time), is it better to take her out of her bedroom after 40 min for 5-10 minutes and then try putting her down again and hope she sleeps, or do I keep her out longer?

I've also been reading some other posts - could this all be developmental issues? She's getting close to walking, I've noticed that she's learnt new play skills with her stacking cups... Maybe I should just put her to bed earlier in the evening when she doesn't nap well during the day.
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Re: Playing during nap time
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2006, 21:02:28 pm »
Taking notes.  I think I need to revamp our A times.   :)

Quote from: Marisa'sMama on November 21, 2006, 18:53:22 pm
At this age you may just have to go by the clock and extend her A times and try for a shorter first nap and longer second one...

How long should she be awake until from the morning nap until the afternoon?  This is really hard when tired signs have gone out the window.   ???

Earlier bedtime is a must on bad nap days.  Savannah's pretty happy when she's tired, too.  It's when you take her in the room and close the door that she starts rubbing her eyes and crying.
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Re: Playing during nap time
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2006, 21:55:45 pm »
It is really hard with no tired signs. This morning I was re-reading Tracy's 'Baby Whisperer Solves All Your Problems' - in the nap section for older babies she says that, based on a 7am waking, some older babies are able to stay awake as long as 9:30 am. That's only 2.5 A hours from waking - this has me confused with the 3.25 - 3.5 A time that was recommended to me. Is the A time that was recommended for me the A time between the morning and afternoon nap? Also, I thought I read somwhere that the longest A time is the evening A time?

This is turning into a really bad math equation! :P
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