Author Topic: Suddenly sleepless nights at 6 months... (Read 6161 times)

obi1d · « **on:** January 07, 2006, 09:22:51 am »

Hi I've only used the board once before on naps and the advance was a huge help, so I'm hoping that someone can help me with my latest bumps along the parenting road with my spirited by happy daughter!

We have sleep problems that have suddenly started after months of sleeping through. LO is very difficult to settle in the evenings now (used to be the perfect baby - bed time routine, put her down slightly drowsy and shut the door - not a peep til morning). For the last week she continuously wakes and cries out when she stirs in the evening before the dream feed and then wakes throughout the night crying out. Naps are the same, will not go down and last two days have had to resort to taking her out in the pushchair to get her to at least have some sleep. The added problem is that as soon as I put her down she turns herself over on to her tummy and cries, and no matter which side I put her on, front, back, left or right side, she just cries. She's beeing turning over for months so its not like its a new trick!

I have to say its really starting to get me down

as I'm getting increasingly tired with the night wakings and the nap struggles in the day. I feel like I'm letting her down by not understanding what is wrong or what she wants, I'm failing her. :oops:

In the mornings I'm torn between letting her sleep on a bit as she was awake for 2 hours or so in the night, to waking her at 7/7.30 to set her body clock for the day. What do you think??

I feel I'm in a cycle of 'she's overtired so she needs to sleep, but she won't sleep because she's overtired'.

This morning, Lara woke at 7.00am and I normally put her down 2 hours later, this morning I took her up earlier and (I still can't believe it) she's actually gone off to sleep without too much of a fuss! Maybe I need to put her down earlier for everything - naps and night time???

Thank you so much in advance for any advice given, this website is a huge help to us all.

Karen & Lara
13.06.05
A (normally) very happy SPIRITED girl!

corrina01 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 07, 2006, 09:37:44 am »

Can you post what your routine is please, so we know what sort of day she is having.

Is it possibly she is teething? Has she got any teeth yet>

Deb_in_oz · « **Reply #2 on:** January 07, 2006, 09:58:02 am »

sounds like 6 month Growth spurt - are you feeding her when she wakes in the night this week? is she taking the feed? both my girls were sleeping through befopre they hit growth spurts, then we had night feeds and/or wonky days for a bit and then they resumed sleeping through. when they go through a GS it can take a lot out of them and that could explain needing to go down for sleeps earlier. is she starting to sit up as well - as that will have an effect on her day. HTH

obi1d · « **Reply #3 on:** January 07, 2006, 11:27:17 am »

Hi routine is as follows on an average day:

0700/0730 Wake and bottle
0800/0830 Breakfast usually porridge or weetabix
0900/0930 Nap for 45-50 mins
1130 - 1200 Bottle and lunch (savoury and sweet)
1300 Nap for 1hr - 1hr 30 mins (on a good day 2 hrs but rarely)
1500 Bottle
1730 Tea (usually fruit and rice as two courses seemed to keep her tummy gurgling through the evening) some milk
1900 Bed time routine and rest of bottle

Could be more teeth, she had her first at 4 months and second the week before Christmas. She has a sore bottom and bit of a runny nose, could this be teething symptoms, plus chewing fingers and thumbs, but she's always done that!

Growth spurt is also a possibility as she will be 7 mths on 13 Jan, she's quite a tall baby and grows into trousers and vests very quickly. I fed her for two nights but stopped at the 3rd thinking it would form a habit?? :shock: She did take the feed the first night, but only an ounce or so the second. She is sitting up and has been for about a month now, also rolls over too.

Any help for the diagnosis?!!!

THANK YOU

corrina01 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 07, 2006, 16:54:05 pm »

Sore bottom and runny nose are signs of teething again.

I see from your routine she doesn't have a catnap in the afternoon, is she tired at all? When did she drop the catnap? When does she finally go to sleep?

Thats all the questions for now

obi1d · « **Reply #5 on:** January 07, 2006, 18:56:33 pm »

Sorry I forgot about that one :shock: , yes she does have a catnap usually around 4-4.30ish sometimes a little later, on average 30 mins or so. She finally goes to sleep around 7.15 - 7.30pm, although its been later recently as she won't settle easily and cries if I take a step towards the door!

thank you

corrina01 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 08, 2006, 08:52:59 am »

Have you tried putting her down at about 5pm - 5.15pm?

obi1d · « **Reply #7 on:** January 08, 2006, 21:41:05 pm »

Hi Corrina

is that for the catnap? Yes on occasions she has slept at that time, it just works out a bit later a little bit depends on what we've been up to in the afternoon, its never given her any problems settling later, no matter how close to her bedtime. Why do you suggest that time?

UPDATE....the last 24 hours have been much better, L only stirred in the evening and during the night last night and re-settled herself, with exception to a 5am cry which she needed turning over to re-settle and went through til 7.10am. She also refused her dream feed at 10pm which she has never done, normally takes at least an ounce, hopefully she can drop that one completely soon. But today she refused her 9am nap completely, surely she isn't ready to drop that at 6.5 months is she?? She seemed to eat a lot more yesterday lunchtime and I gave her her 11am milk feed completely separately to her solids ie. they were later and so believe that she had more calories in her yesterday to satisfy her. So, could have been a growth spurt or just needing me to persevere with solids even when she indicates she's had enough. Maybe wait a while and try again?

BTW which milk feed is it that I should be dropping - 11am or 3pm??

Fingers (and everything else!) crossed that tonight will be a quiet night again!

Thank you for your help.

Karen & Lara
13.06.05

Spirited but a happy cheeky monkey

corrina01 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 08, 2006, 22:07:30 pm »

Probably a growth spurt then. I don't know about dropping the milk feed. My DD is roughly the same age as your DD, but they are totally different. My DD eats every 3.5hrs with 2x solids a day and sleeps a total of roughly 4 hrs during day.

Why I suggested that time, is because the routine you indicated her awake times are 2hr-2.30hrs.

But then again, she is getting over (hopefully) night wakings.

obi1d · « **Reply #9 on:** January 09, 2006, 08:32:21 am »

I spoke to soon, we had 3 wakings last night, the last one I offered her milk and she took two ounces, not sure whether I should do this again as I don't want to create a habit and her expect it. How long do growth spurts last? The first two wakings were just a 'can you help me turn on my side and prop me up', she went off fairly quickly, the final one was a totally awake girl on her tummy pushing right up on her arms. It seems she's forgotten how to fall back to sleep / get through the transition from one sleep pattern to another :shock: . I will endeavour to get more food in her today, she has already had a fare helping of weetabix and most of her milk. Just going to put her down for her first nap, we'll see how this goes as she totally refused it yesterday.

I'm at a loss to know exactly what is wrong... but I suppose there are times like that until they can talk!

Have a good day
Karen & Lara

corrina01 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 09, 2006, 22:09:02 pm »

Has she found anything new to do just recently? Could be a developmental thing, her waking up. When my DD has found something new, like blowing raspberries, her naps have always been affected. This last for about 5 days.

Growth spurts last anything between 1 day to a week, it just depends on your little one.

Is she crying out when she wakes up in the night?

After re-reading your post, does she show tired signs before the 2 hrs awake mark. My DD can stay awake for 1.50hr only, if I push it for 2hrs, she does not nap at all well. After her catnap (4pm-4.45pm) she can stay awake for 2.15-2.30hrs.

RebeccaH · « **Reply #11 on:** January 10, 2006, 09:05:16 am »

Can I join in? I spent the time between 4.30 and 6.18 planning my post and then found someone had got in before me with an identical problem! My ds was sleeping through perfectly (with d/f) until new year and then chaos. He now wakes about every 3 hours. This was last night:

6.30pm bed, straight to sleep as usual
10pm D/F (by the way this was the first night for a week he slept til 10, he used to have his d/f at 11 but I was in the middle of moving it forward)
1ish - woke up, settled straight away with teething gel and dummy
4.25 - woke up, settled after about ten minutes of me holding his arms down (that's how we've always settled him, day and night)
4.45 - woke up, wide awake, eventually (after about 20 mins of usual settling) I decided to feed him as maybe it was a growth spurt. He guzzled for 20 mins then fell asleep at the breast, however as soon as I put him back in the cot he was partying again. He eventually settled at 6.18, I stayed with him all the time.
7.15 I woke him up to try and keep on track, he was tired though and went back for his nap at 8.30 rather than the usual 9.

His daytime routine and all other things (physical developments) are very very similar to Lara's.

I hope someone can help, my dh works away alot and I'm going back to work this week, I'm starting to loose my sense of humour.

Oh wanted to add, in the past I've been guilty of rushing in. I'm sure though that I'm really only going in when he needs me, I don't let him cry alone but he's certainly crying out when I get out of bed. Also I've noticed he usually rolls onto his tummy and then gets stuck, that's when he really cries and is hard to settle. But he can roll back and before new year used to sleep really well on his tummy too.

Thank you!

corrina01 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 10, 2006, 10:05:07 am »

With the 6 month mark most babies are unsettled during the night as well as naps, (this is happening to my own DD), this is mainly (as I have found) they are teething, phsyical developments, solids, growth spurts all are contributing factors. They wonder what is happening to their little bodies. I personally have found, take each day as it comes, and be there when they need you, they will get through it in time.

I too am guilty of rushing in before DD needs me, this all part of being a new mother, but you will work it out when your lo needs you.

You are great mothers, just be their when your lo's need you, as I am doing. Think ahead to when they are sleeping right through again, maybe tonight, tomorrow night or maybe even in a weeks time, thats how I am looking at it.

obi1d · « **Reply #13 on:** January 11, 2006, 13:38:40 pm »

Corrina, my apologies, I kept checking back to see if there were any new posts on this page and couldn't see any, doh! didn't see that you had replied, will read all the new msgs and come back to you. Just going to get my head down for 20 mins as LO in bed - hoorah!

...spoke to soon, she's just woken after just 33 mins!

:shock: :shock: :shock:
Karen

tracefo · « **Reply #14 on:** January 11, 2006, 17:27:44 pm »

Same old, same old here. How long will this last? Is there something I should be doing to get it under control? I think I cry more than she does lately! Is there a way we can all go into a chatroom and compare notes?
Tracey

obi1d · « **Reply #15 on:** January 11, 2006, 18:53:02 pm »

yes she's crying out, I mostly go in quickly so that she doesn't wake completely and i can turn her and resettle her without her being fully aware I'm there (if you know what I mean)! Maybe I should wait a bit, tried that later on but she just ended up screaming as she was on her tummy and pushing right up on her hands.

Nothing seems to be getting any better, I can't think that I'm doing anything different, but I am finding she is refusing foods some of the time. I have a few questions on feeds:

Morning milk - should it be separate from breakfast altogether ie. 1 hour apart
11am feed should this be separate from her solids totally??
Evening / teatime milk feed, should this be with solids or just before putting her down.

I'm so confused what happens with the milk feeds when the solids are coming in.

I fed Lara at 2.30am this morning as she'd been waking since 11.30pm, she ended up taking 7oz, so could be growth spurt but should it be lasting 11 days???

Today has been a bit of nightmare with naps, only 25 mins or so this morning at 9am and then of course the lunchtime one was very short, I have resorted to walking to a friend's 40 mins away so Lara would sleep there and back in the the pushchair, just for to get some sleep time in. She has been taking a couple of mouthfuls of food and refusing it too, is this because she is overtired do you think? I am also aware that my tiredness and emotions are probably affecting her too, so I'm going to bed tonight when she goes. My other half works away alot too and most nights doesn't get home until 8.40pm, but tonight I need sleep more! I'm just praying its phase/growth spurt/teething as I don't want to go to bed at 7.30pm every night and never see my partner.

Do you think I'm putting her to bed too late, last night due to fussing a bit and she eventually dropped off at around 7.50pm.

Sorry so many questions!

My HV said that as she wasn't well (she had diarrohhea over Christmas) she got off track and is having trouble getting back to routine. But to be honest, she was sleeping through when she had the upset tummy and only started waking several days after it had stopped.

Thanks again for any info, its so helpful and just to get it all off my chest is a relief.

P.S. DH want to let her CIO (he has two children from his previous marriage and I guess that's what they did). Does Tracy say its something you NEVER do or are there times when she thinks its okay. I can't say that it appeals to me but I'll try anything at the moment.

Thanks :?

hallas · « **Reply #16 on:** January 11, 2006, 18:54:52 pm »

Hi

I have the same problem with my twins, feel exactly the same, and is good to know my girls are not the only ones going through this.

Please let me know of any any good advise tiips etc , eill keep reading ...

thnx

Sonia

obi1d · « **Reply #17 on:** January 11, 2006, 18:56:55 pm »

Tracefo - isn't it frustrating and upsetting. I'm with you on the crying front, I cry with her, and I get really angry with myself for getting frustrated with Lara. Tiredness is a huge factor though isn't.

What happened to our lovely good sleepers, good eaters and very happy babies??

:cry:

Please let it be a phase that's ended today!!! :shock:

obi1d · « **Reply #18 on:** January 11, 2006, 18:58:35 pm »

Sonia

Have your girls started doing anything different? More mobile or anything? Lara seems to just keep turning and turning over - doesn't know which side or front or back she wants to sleep on!

Karen

corrina01 · « **Reply #19 on:** January 11, 2006, 20:03:05 pm »

Tracy,

I will reply tomorrow. So hang in there. I have read your post and have a few suggestions.

RebeccaH · « **Reply #20 on:** January 12, 2006, 09:07:26 am »

I'd like to post a little success! The night before last, the one before my first day at work (leaving the house at 7.15, no dh at home, and new job!) and he was up every 2 hours, was beside myself. Anyway last night I abandoned dream feed and he didn't wake until around 12.30, I waited for 5 minutes (on clock) and he was certainly noisy but I'm pretty sure it wasn't crying just that mantra cry thing. Anyway next time I heard him I looked at the clock and it was 3.30! Joy! He was really awake this time so I went in and decided if he wanted to play he could, but not with me, so I gave him a toy and walked straight out. I stayed awake for the next half hour listening to him playing and occassionally 'shouting out' but I left him and within half an hour he was back to sleep. He woke up the start the day at 6.30.

Not sure what'll happen tonight but feel better for more than 2 hours sleep. I agree with everything that's been said so far, growth spurt, physical development however I think when it's getting on for 12 days (did everyone else start this on new years day?!) it's getting to be a habit too. It's good to know I'm not alone in this.

corrina01 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 12, 2006, 09:09:03 am »

Karen,

Most mums give milk and then solids about 1hr after. As my DD can't stay awake that long I always give my DD solids and then milk straight afterwards. But I think that all depends on what you think is right.

How much solids are you giving her, and how many ozs of milk are you giving her? Do you give her a dreamfeed?

Was she always a tummy sleeper?

With the naps and food. She is overtired, so won't be taking quite as much food, so you will have to work on her naps.

I really don't think she is going to bed too late as 7pm is the norm for most mums, but if she is tired, try putting her to bed at 6.30pm, until she gets back into the routine.

With the naps, does she wake after 40mins and then won't resettle? If so, do PU/PD until next feed time if necessary, every nap. Reassure her with quiet words, saying like mummy is here, I'm not going anywhere, you just trying to go to sleep. Put down as soon as she stops crying, and stroke her head with quiet words. As she will be hitting 7 months, maybe it is the case of seperation anxiety. I would not recommend CIO, as this will break the trust of you and your daughter, it may cause further problems. This may take 3 days or a week or maybe longer but you have to be consisent.

corrina01 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 12, 2006, 09:15:54 am »

Rebecca,

Well done, I think he may have been picking up you were getting anxious about first day at work. With my DD, it certainly was. Now I have been back at work (2 days a week), she is sleeping much better, naps and bedtime.

Keep up the good work

hallas · « **Reply #23 on:** January 12, 2006, 15:33:15 pm »

Hiya,

Twins are also coming down with a cold, added to the teething and weaning! don't know how much more they or I can juggle!

Have been guilty of letting them take naps in my bed in the day! only cos its so hard to quiten one and then the other, by the time the 1st oneis disturbed again! so have been placing the twins on the bed and patting both siultaneaously! but is this a bad habit in the wating??

In fear yesterday and today have been quite strict on putting them in the cots, at least when this weaning/teething/colds/ waking phase is over they will still be sleeping in the cots! ( she says!!)

Anyway the question is. ' To feed or not to feed?' refering the 5am wake up due to growth spurt etc etc, have been giving water but doesn't settle the twins, have treid increasing suppply of food/milk in the day but again they only take what they want, can't force even if I try!

so will it become a habit if I feed at 5am? at least until this phase is over?I do try and ensure their bed time milk and dream feed is taken, but they at times only want half of it, other days all of it and more.

How much solids are your 6monthers taking? mine seem to take anything between 4-8 teaspoons full is that enough??

Sonia

obi1d · « **Reply #24 on:** January 12, 2006, 21:19:35 pm »

I wish I could leave Lara to play but she just cries and turns over on to tummy and won't go off to sleep.

UPDATE...last night she cried a lot when I put her down, not sure if its teething, she started the head banging thing (rocking head from side to side) anyway wouldn't settle, so I gave her some Calbufren, like Calpol but with ibuprofren to reduce inflammation. This seemed to help, so think maybe she has some movement in her gums which has been upsetting her. She went off to sleep no problem, tried the dream feed and she only took an ounce (i even tried giving it later to see if she would take more, thinking maybe that's why she's been waking), waffling sorry! Well the major breakthrough is.....she slept all night long! Like she used to! I woke up of course, but that's bearable if I don't have to get up! she finally woke at 7.15am and was much happier. What did I do differently?? or was it the teething.

I figured yesterday that she was so overtired we were getting ourselves into a little cycle of so overtired through not sleeping but too tired to get to sleep and stay asleep without waking every cycle. So we went out for a long walk and she slept in the pushchair for well over an hour, this seemed to help. I am having trouble with the evenings as she is really rubbing her little eyes, so I think I will have to bring her bedtime fwd. At the mo, I go up at 7pm and she's normally in bed by 7.30pm but recently not going to sleep until nearer 8pm absolutely zonked through fussing and fidgeting for the last 30 mins or so.

Corrina, thank you for your help, here's my responses:

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How much solids are you giving her, and how many ozs of milk are you giving her? Do you give her a dreamfeed?
I make up 8ozs each time with exception of dreamfeed, which I normally make 4 or 5 ozs as she only takes between 1 and 3 ozs. Of the other 8oz feeds, I would say she takes all of the first bottle, sometimes some via breakfast cereal, the others she probably takes and average of 6oz each, with exception of the teatime/bedtime feed, she usually takes all of it.

Was she always a tummy sleeper?
No she's never been a tummy sleeper, that's the problem, she rolls over to her side and then over fully onto tummy and cries. I keep thinking maybe I should try and get her to fall asleep on her tummy, but can't see how I can as she just pushes up on to her arms and then hands and cries.

With the naps and food. She is overtired, so won't be taking quite as much food, so you will have to work on her naps.
I agree on the naps versus eating, she ate much more today at lunch and tea, I'm sure its because she's feeling better due to a good night's sleep.

I really don't think she is going to bed too late as 7pm is the norm for most mums, but if she is tired, try putting her to bed at 6.30pm, until she gets back into the routine.
Yes, I normally put her down at 7.30pm but as mentioned above she has been fussing and fidgeting til nearly 8pm lately, so I think bringing it fwd would be a good idea and see how that goes.

With the naps, does she wake after 40mins and then won't resettle? If so, do PU/PD until next feed time if necessary, every nap. Reassure her with quiet words, saying like mummy is here, I'm not going anywhere, you just trying to go to sleep. Put down as soon as she stops crying, and stroke her head with quiet words. As she will be hitting 7 months, maybe it is the case of seperation anxiety. I would not recommend CIO, as this will break the trust of you and your daughter, it may cause further problems. This may take 3 days or a week or maybe longer but you have to be consisent.
Yes, I've tried leaving her for a little while to see if she will go back to sleep, but again, she just turns on to her tummy and starts a full on cry! I have been reluctant to really get into the PU/PD method as so many people on these boards have said that it just irritates spirited babies (and she's very spirited!!!) :shock: and just makes them cry louder. What do you think??I asked the HV about CIO and she says its fine and won't damage our relationship, but I'm really not sure and its so hard to do.

Its so difficult to know what to do for the best, I'm hoping that last night was the start of something good again! We'll see! I'll keep you posted!

thanks again
Karen

obi1d · « **Reply #25 on:** January 12, 2006, 21:33:38 pm »

Sonia

Lara has on average the following solids:

Breakfast
6 (baby) spoons of dry porridge mixed with milk; or
0.5 to 1 weetabix with milk; or
a small jar of hipp organics porridge

Lunch
3 or 4 ice cubes of veg mixed with chicken or half a ready organic jar
half a mashed banana plus 1 cube of mango
or one petit filous

Tea
3 cubes of veg
6 baby spoons of rice mixed with milk and 3 cubes of apple/pear or some banana

She eats most of it (although she was off her food for the last few days due to overtiredness), she seems to be back on it today and ate a good lunch and tea. The theory goes (I'm sure you know this) that if they eat plenty during the day, they should sleep at night! :lol:

We'll see!

Good luck...

Karen

P.S. I put Lara's Grobag back on last night and think she may have been a bit warmer than the last week or so - maybe that's helped?? Who knows huh?!

corrina01 · « **Reply #26 on:** January 12, 2006, 21:55:51 pm »

Karen,

I don't know if you have already done this, so excuse me if you have, coming up with suggestions. During the A time, try putting her on her stomach, and try and teach her to roll back. Or does she do that anyway?

I would decrease the dreamfeed now since your solids have been established, she has a lot of solids, my DD is only on 2 meals a day and I give her 2tbsps.

I think the main problem with your DD, is that she doesn't know how to turn over when she is asleep and wakes up to find she is on her tummy and it is very frustrating for her. As soon as she knows how to roll back I think (I hope as I have been in this situation, as my DD has no intention of rolling) your troubles will be over. Keep me posted and I will think what else could be wrong.

corrina01 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 12, 2006, 22:05:11 pm »

Sonia,

If the twins are coming down with a cold and teething, do whatever you think is best, and as soon as they are well again, you can get back on track.

obi1d · « **Reply #28 on:** January 13, 2006, 18:45:50 pm »

Corrina

Thank you, no DD doesn't know how to turn back yet! I will try and teach her and see if that helps. Last night was another nasty one, even when I got Lara to sleep, I couldn't switch off :shock: , my eyes just didn't feel shut even when they were, if you know what I mean!! I lost 3 hours sleep - yuk! Needless to say was a little tearful this morning.

I managed to get Lara back to sleep whilst she was on her tummy last night (but not for long) as I keep thinking if she could get used to that then things would be fine. I ended up feeding her as she was so wide awake and unhappy, she took 4oz - still a growth spurt??

This morning's nap time came and went, struggled with her and didn't succeed, so we went out to a group as I needed some sanity and support. She fell asleep in the car on the way back, I tried to move her to her cot, all fine until I was actually hovering over the cot and putting her down, she started crying and woke up fully. Ended up having take her out in the pushchair as she so desperately needed to sleep, she then slept for 1 hour and 40 mins (longest nap for ages). Her routine was completely shot out due to the nap and ended up having lunch at nearly 3pm. She then had another nap at 5pm for 35/40 mins. Tea at 6pm. Its all getting a bit late isn't it. I'm aiming to get her into bed earlier tonight as her poor little eyes were rubbed away last night.

I am interested in your views on PU/PD with spirited LOs. Unfortunately we are away visiting family this weekend so I will just have to do all I can for not to wake up the whole household! Looking forward to Monday and started a fresh week and routine!

As always, thanks for all advice given.

Karen & Lara
13.06.05

I would be interested

corrina01 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 13, 2006, 22:49:24 pm »

Just a thought on her feeding, are you on the hungrier milk, or on the first milk still?

About PU/PD I will reply in the morning, tired eyes getting to me as I have been hectic at work today.

hallas · « **Reply #30 on:** January 13, 2006, 22:59:13 pm »

Thnx Karen for info,

Food wise twins take about 6 heaped (baby) spoons, although I only give the dessert an dinner time, milk wise they average about 5-8oz each feed! so I suppose they are not far off.

Sleep wise girls are still getting up, however only once as opposed to 3 times. Eating wise today they have been fussy so am expecting a fussy night.

I am giving them milk when they get up, in a way I feel thats better than giving water and getting up 3 times a night ( maybe thats made a difference).

I find that they are sound asleep at 7am ish but I do get them up at 7.30, to start the day off. I have found that their morning nap is longer now as they are catching up on their night sleep approx 1.5hrs ( which they hardly ever did mainly got up after 40-45r mins).

neither of the girls are rolling over yet, in a way I wonder why but on the other hand it seems to cause a few sleeping issues, so suppose can wait.

Sonia

any tips for teething?anyone tried Ashton & Parson powders? I just tend to use Dentinox

obi1d · « **Reply #31 on:** January 15, 2006, 22:39:12 pm »

Hi Corrina

Sorry for delay in replying, we've been away this weekend visiting family.

I still have DD on regular milk. I feed her solids until she refuses generally, but maybe I should try hungry milk?

Having said that, we have had two good nights. Fri she stirred a few times with a little cry but managed to settle herself and Sat, she stirred in the evening and woke when DH went to be (she was in with us in the travel cot) but once she was off she slept through til 6am.

Tonight she's been a little unsettled this evening, but I am feeling hopeful of another good night. The only things I can say that I have done different on the last couple of nights are 1. I have switched the night light on on the monitor and 2. I have sat with her for 15 mins or so whilst she has fallen asleep (without my intervention or her crying). She fidgets around for a while, arms flapping, legs up and down, occasionally I'll help her with her arms by just getting her to hold my hands for a little while. When she stops flapping, I take my hands away and she just drifts off feeling reassured that I'm there and seems to settle for the night. When I think she's pretty much asleep I creep out. Not sure if its worth any of the others trying this, but when you feel desperate, anything's worth a try right?!

I'll see how tonight goes, but like I say, she seems a little more unsettled tonight, could be the 2.5 hour car journey in a new car seat or it might be teeth, it seems like a pain type little cry.

Off to sleep now.... :shock:

thank you
Karen

obi1d · « **Reply #32 on:** January 15, 2006, 22:47:17 pm »

Just a quick reply to Sonia...

Yes, I've used those powders and they seem fine, a friend uses them all the time with her twins (they're a year and a half) when they're teething. I have recently bought some Calbuprofen from the makers of Calpol as it reduces swelling and inflammation too. I spoke to the pharmacist in Boots to check that it was ok, as I think DD has lots of movement going on in the gums and its bothering her. She's got 2 teeth, first one at 4 months so I think they may be sorting themselves out in her gums, even if they're not breaking through for a while! I have only given it to her twice as a last resort, following trying to sooth her in other ways and she seems to settle really well.

Anyway, more chatting tomorrow.... goodnight!

corrina01 · « **Reply #33 on:** January 26, 2006, 09:57:25 am »

Sorry to have taken so longer in replying (overtired DD trying to get her back into the routine). It sounds like your on the road to recovery.

obi1d · « **Reply #34 on:** January 26, 2006, 13:09:42 pm »

Hi

Can now report that dd now goes off at night on her own again (at for the moment) and is sleeping right thru without a peep, phew! I think we got into a cycle of overtiredness and although I'm still struggling with daytime naps (that's another story on another board!!!

) things are much better.

Hope others have had some progress too. Life is so much more enjoyable with sleep in it!!!

Thanks all
Karen

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