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Re: Baby Led Weaning Support Thread - Part 6!
« Reply #165 on: February 13, 2010, 23:07:25 pm »
How do you know what foods are good for certain blood types/  I am very interested in this.

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Re: Baby Led Weaning Support Thread - Part 6!
« Reply #166 on: February 14, 2010, 01:00:33 am »
Ali, with my dd we did meats at 8 months, we took the 2 months prior to go through the cereals and every fruit and veggie I could think of. I know of los that have had meat before the 8 months so I think it depends on how well lo does with other foods, how many other foods lo has had, the comfort level of you, how well your lo does with textures.

As for your brown rice, can you overcook it so that it's softer and sticks more together? I think cooked normal, it's too hard to lo to pick up on their own to eat, you'd have to spoon it into her mouth, unless you make a sauce for it to make it "stick" together (like tomato sauce or something perhaps).

You can combine foods when your lo is comfortable with textures and you know the foods you are combining are not going to cause an allergy or reaction for you lo. We did pureed foods for dd so I combined fairly early on once I knew she liked individual tastes and was not allergic, and we did mixed foods in solid form (ie. pasta with steamed veggie chunks, meat pieces) when she was about 8 months+.

My dd never threw a plate (or bowl for that matter) but she was a very neat eater and hated to be dirty or messy. I don't have any of those cute pictures of her with food all over her head or anything. Plates and bowls were fine at my house but I think things will be different for my ds!
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Re: Baby Led Weaning Support Thread - Part 6!
« Reply #167 on: February 14, 2010, 01:16:26 am »
Hi Waffler

BLW is all about letting them lead the way. We never made a conscious decision to introduce food groups such as meat, we just gave it to her! TBH she didn't eat it until she could cope with it, either through lack of teeth or ability to chew! We didn't introduce a food at a time either, just popped it on her tray & let her crack on! As for runny foods, I still cheat! I soak soup up with bread & that kind of thing. Rice, I let my husband cook it, it seems to form quite good lumps when he does it!!! Generally it's very messy & hit or miss as to how much she ate! She's better with it now as she can use a spoon!

I'm afraid I don't buy into this 'eat right for your type' theory! You say wheat & dairy are not 'supposed' to be good for you, the way I see it is you're either allergic or your not! I asked my Dr about these 'fad' diets & she suggested missing one food group out at a time to see if it made a difference, I didn't have the patience & I love the food that is supposedly bad for me!!!! And I don't like most of the food I'm supposed to eat!
 I've looked at some of the books on the subject & none received good reviews from dietitians or nutritionists, that speaks volumes to me!!
  
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Re: Baby Led Weaning Support Thread - Part 6!
« Reply #168 on: February 14, 2010, 04:52:02 am »
Hi goblin

thanks for the advice and of course you can express your opinions. I really react badly to wheat, super bad, and dairy too but not as bad as wheat. My DD1 has exczema that's contributed to wheat - we did elimination diet. And my DD2 had realy bad gas so I eliminated wheat and dairy from my diet as i was breastfeeding. I do buy into it because i see how it works for me and for many other friends of mine who have discovered this. I hate the word "diet" but rather, guide to consuming what's good for me. My stomach bloats and i get all windy when i eat wheat - not a pretty sight!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Baby Led Weaning Support Thread - Part 6!
« Reply #169 on: March 02, 2010, 18:00:09 pm »
Hi there, hope you don't mind me crashing your thread!

I'm Dela and have Darcey who is 5mths. We're really keen on the BLW method of weaning but I have some baby whisperer type questions.

Firstly, how does it fit with STTN babies (not that I have one! - yet!) are you committed to night feeds or should I be trying to eliminate them with PUPD?

Secondly, all the BLW book talks about is breastfeeding on demand which I know is a concept that Tracy didn't really agree with. How do the two things sit together?

The reason I ask is because we are in the middle of fighting NWs and I'm still not sure if she's waking because she's hungry or not!


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Re: Baby Led Weaning Support Thread - Part 6!
« Reply #170 on: March 02, 2010, 20:37:41 pm »
Hi Dela,
I'm afraid I can't help with some of those questions as I had a baby that STTN from very early on. Have you posted in the NW forum for help?

As for feeding on demand, I did until I wanted to wean DD off the day breast feeds when I was planning on going back to work. She was on four to five feeds a day and when I started to introduce solids I used the solid feeds to help space the breast feeds a little! To be fair she wanted more solids by 8months old than she did milk so again I had it easy! Saying that, all the advice was babies under one need x amount of milk a day,well DD was well below that as she just wanted solids!

I think a lot of parenting books give you guide lines/ rules and you need to pick out the bits that suit you. There is no wrong and right as every baby is different!

I would say start with BLW regardless of the NW issues, you never know but the extra food in her tummy might help with the sleep!

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Re: Baby Led Weaning Support Thread - Part 6!
« Reply #171 on: March 03, 2010, 02:49:44 am »
Hi Dela! I just want to add something about "feeding on demand" and Tracy's concept for BW. Tracy believed in a routine for babies for everything from eating to sleeping and it all makes sense as all the EASY segments are connected in that they impact each other. In doing a routine she also firmly believed in "listening to your baby's needs". Technically, if one is following a routine (not a "schedule") than you really can feed on demand if you are bfing. Feeding on demand and listening to your baby's needs for hunger is not the same as "feeding on demand for a tired cry, or a I'm too hot/too cold cry, or a I'm OT cry". I've read lots of other material about feeding on demand and I'd say 9/10x moms take this to a new level and bf as props for everything so they end up with a bfing lo who is snacking every half hour! I feed ds "on demand" and follow a BW routine. For us this means bfing every 3-3.5 hours. Before we started solids it meant bfing every 2.5-3 hours and cluster feeding. Because he takes good feeds and both sides he doesn't get hungry earlier and doesn't snack at the breast. I also know his hunger signs. IF for some reason he would show he's hungry earlier, I simply would feed him earlier and I'd adjust our EASY routine.

In terms of eliminating the night bfs, this is totally up to you, if you want to wean from  these feeds or let lo decide when to grow out of these feeds. My ds still wakes sometimes for a night feed and I always give it to him. My dd did the same and she STTN when she was ready as I'm sure DS will. If you are looking to wean the night bf I would suggest posting on the bfing board as those wonderful ladies might be better equipped to help with ideas.

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Re: Baby Led Weaning Support Thread - Part 6!
« Reply #172 on: March 11, 2010, 18:07:16 pm »
Hi,

I have decided to do BLW and am waiting for the baby led weaning book to arrive, I had to order on line and it is going to be late.  I have read numerous articles and know of all  the info I need I just don't know what food start with?  Should I give 1 type of food to start or a variety?  Can someone give me a list of foods to start with?  I know I need to roast harder vegetables. and foods with a handle.  And how many meals should I start with?  Can someone share their BLW schedule along with milk feeds when first starting at 6 months?  My lo is 5.5 months and already sitting up on her own and trying to grab my food so I might start in the next week (1 week early).  It would be nice to have some sort of schedule.

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Re: Baby Led Weaning Support Thread - Part 6!
« Reply #173 on: March 12, 2010, 02:37:27 am »
Hi EricaM31, I would recommend starting with one food at a time, giving it 2-3 days between each new food so that if your lo has a reaction you know what food it is caused by. I would also only offer the food in the morning, once again, if there ends up being any tummy issues then you have the day instead of the night to sort through it.

I can't really tell you what food to start out with as all los are different in how they react to tastes and textures. I would think you can start out with the same foods as most los start out with (in puree form), so, maybe steam some sweet potato (steaming would make it softer than roasting) and cut it in very thin long slivers (like french fires), or slivers of banana (watch the banana, I've heard of so many los shoving it into their mouths and then gagging/choking on it!). Don't expect too much at 5.5 months if you are leaving it up to lo to pick up the food to eat. I put down steamed veggies on ds's tray during our dinner each night, just so he doesn't feel left out, and he has yet to pick it up to eat, he just plays around with it! (Ds is 6 mths)
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Re: Baby Led Weaning Support Thread - Part 6!
« Reply #174 on: March 12, 2010, 10:22:32 am »
Hi EricaM31

DD's first solid food was half a small banana! She squeezed it and then ate a big chunk before looking shocked that this substance actually had a taste! Then gobbled up more! We never had any problems of choking on a banana, the bigger the chunks the better she could hold it! Plus when you start slicing banana it makes it very slippery!

Other first foods included broccoli, carrots and potato's. Broccoli was an instant winner as she could hold the little branch and suck off the green bits. I cooked it to the point where the green florets would just about come off with a fork, too soft and it will just disintegrate! Potato's, boiled in great big chunks as in stick form they fall apart. Carrots caused lots of choking issues as she would gum off a chunk and choke on it as it is quite slippery. We eventually gave that a miss for a while!
  Tomato's are also good, we chopped ours into 8 slices, removed the seeds (to save on mess) and bent them backwards so the slices would sit fairly flat. These proved to be her favorite for a very long time as she would just run the strips between her gums eating the flesh, leaving only a slither of skin. Plus when given cold they are very soothing on teething gums! When her first bottom teeth arrived at 7 months she could actually start cutting into slightly harder food. When the top teeth came in there was no stopping her!

With the choking issue we actually fed DD in our lap for the first few weeks. I only got worried once with the carrots and went to lean her forward to help her get it out but she managed on her own. Babies have a VERY keen gag reflex and they also make it look and sound very dramatic when they are gagging! DD is now an expert and rarely even makes a noise when something goes down the wrong hole!

I never did the allergy feeding thing! We often gave her two or three new foods a day, but we don't have any allergies in our family so I never worried! Plus with BLW they don't digest the food as fast so their bodies get a chance to cope with it at their own rate!

There is also the theory (that is explained very well in Gill Rapleys book) that babies will avoid what they later show they are allergic too! Our little one has only ever really refused egg. In the early days she would eat scrambled egg and omelet, now she won't touch it in any form! We keep offering it to her though!

As for routine, at the start we didn't have a 'plan', we just gave it to her during her activity time in between feeds so she wasn't starving or full on milk. I can't really remember timings. It got to a point when she would just burst into tears, not for milk or for tiredness, she wanted solids! As she got older I used the feeds to help spread her breast feeds out before I returned to work and got her onto formula during the day.

Every little one is different, you just need to look at your current routine and pick a convenient time. With BLW it's all about exploration at the start and milk is still their main diet. DD decided she preferred solids over milk and was down to two breast feeds a day well before she was one.

Sorry this is a bit long! But I hope it helps you get started, BLW is messy but really good fun!
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Re: Baby Led Weaning Support Thread - Part 6!
« Reply #175 on: March 12, 2010, 12:51:16 pm »
apples really help me with her teething and to buy me some time to make dinner. She doesn't have teeth yet so she just gums/sucks the slice of apple. I peel off the peel so she can suck from any where.
Bananas gave her such a huge tummy ache so I've discontinued that for a month or so...maybe revisit that in a month.

She FINALLY ate more than one spoon of oatmeal today. Mind you, I finally thought to grind the oatmeal first and put it in her favourite puree.

BLW is going slowly here..but I suppose when she gets teeth she might be more brave to try different textures etc. :)
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Re: Baby Led Weaning Support Thread - Part 6!
« Reply #176 on: April 02, 2010, 19:12:48 pm »
So, my LO is having some teeth now and started to choke really a lot. It's kinda scary. He chokes on everything: pear, apple, potato etc. It seems like now with his teeth he can bite off bigger pieces but doesn't really chew them. Should I be worried or give him softer pieces now? Is it normal and will he outgrow it? I am just really nervous right now, he chokes at almost every meal.
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Re: Baby Led Weaning Support Thread - Part 6!
« Reply #177 on: April 02, 2010, 20:46:25 pm »
He should grow out of it! Is he actually choking or just gagging? They can make a real noise, but as long as he is dealing with it and not getting distressed it should be okay. He just needs to learn how much he can bite off.

What teeth has he got now? If it's just his front teeth he won't be able to chew for a while yet.
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« Reply #178 on: April 03, 2010, 00:09:54 am »
He is really choking, only gagging wouldn't worry me that much. He doesn't seem to get too distressed (but I am!). He does get tears in his eyes and gets really red. He has only the front teeth, that's why my DH thinks it isn't the best idea to let him bite things off since, as you said, he can't chew yet. I hope he will learn soon to bite little pieces. I am always worried that I don't even know how to get food out of his throat once it gets stuck there. I didn't learn that in first aid...
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Re: Baby Led Weaning Support Thread - Part 6!
« Reply #179 on: April 03, 2010, 06:42:52 am »
As long as he's making noise and getting it up that's the important thing. If it ever gets stuck and he goes very quiet, red and worse case blue you need to step in. Back slaps are a good start, between his shoulder blades, you can lay him across your lap to do that, they need to be good firm slaps. Hopefully you will never need that and he will learn to stop choking on it!
  I'm not a first aid expert, maybe ask your HV or paed for advice. 
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