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Re: My Total Elimination Diet Journal
« Reply #45 on: January 05, 2009, 16:54:42 pm »
MPI or MSPI is Milk/Soy Protein Intolerance.  It won't show up on an allergy test, but little one's can have an intolerance to the protein in dairy products (formula), and if so usually soy as well but not always.  My son is MSPI.  He gets super congested, runny nose, eczema all over, tired, but there are many other symptoms.  It's always good to ask these questions with a doctor and hopefully he'll get it.  Here is a link on it:  http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=66236.0  also from Wikipedia which is on milk allergy, but talks a lot on MSPI or MPI as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_allergy
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Re: My Total Elimination Diet Journal
« Reply #46 on: January 05, 2009, 17:07:11 pm »
Oh I just read your post before.  Many doctors use the term colic and that usually leads to MSPI.  Eczema as you described was like my sons, especially on the face.  Red with yellow crusty layer, flaky, gross.  Always itching.  It wasn't until I tried him on rice milk that he totally cleared up, eczema, cradle cap, fussiness, etc.  Many mom's report mucous in the bowel movements too, though that never happened with me.  It can also cause tummy upset, thus resulting in colicky behaviour.  You should check the food you eat, even that olive oil margarine probably has hidden dairy/soy in it, so does bread and the like.  There is a list on here under the sticky thread on Recipes that gives the full list as they use so many names for dairy and soy.
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Re: My Total Elimination Diet Journal
« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2009, 17:10:08 pm »
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Re: My Total Elimination Diet Journal
« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2009, 17:12:28 pm »
Oh and here is another, second post down, it's a little more easy to read I find: http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=66236.0
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Re: My Total Elimination Diet Journal
« Reply #49 on: January 05, 2009, 18:31:55 pm »
Hi Bovi - ((hugs)) to you.  Melanie (Spectra) gave you some really great info to check out.  Regarding the chamomille tea - you should probably be able to.  I actually had some last week as I realized we give DD gripe water and that has chamomille in it.  You should try it, I bet it will be fine.  About your other foods - not a lot of fat in there - any chance of introducing avocado?  Or coconut milk (that was recommended on this thread, I haven't tried it yet, but plan too).  Or something with a little more fat to get calories into you?  Also - try to make sure you are drinking lots and lots of water. 

About the mucousy stools.  My DD has these ALL the time.   It was tied closely w/the MPI in the beginning so it always makes me a little nervous, however she also gets them when she has a little cold (which she seems to have every other week).  She had a really mucousy diaper the other day and my heart sank thinking it was the beginning of a reaction to the Neocate - however, all poops since have been fine and her nose has also cleared up, so I think it's as Emma Lou said - all the snot was going into her stomach and coming out in her diaper!  I had being giving her saline drops but not suctioning it out because she hates it and I only do it when really bad - so she must have been swallowing everything.  I'm such a poop watching addict now, lol!

That's a drag about your ped - a little hello to your little man would be nice - but hopefully he can help you out.  Oh, and I agree w/Melanie - be very careful about everything you eat (like the olive oil margarine) it most likely has trace (hidden) dairy or soy.  We used an olive spray in the early days and found out it has soy in it - didn't even dawn on me.   ::)

Hang in there and with your food I hope you are eating  pretty much every couple of hours?  I found I really have to do that even if I'm not very hungry just to get the calories in....

More ((((hugs)))) for you, I SOOOO understand how frustrating this can be.   :-*  Please let us know how the ped appointment go.

On another note - I'm calling the Neocate a success!  Woohoo!!  This is day 7 and DD seems great - aside from the one mucousy poop she's doing great.  What a relief.  So do you think that means that she would be ok if I added corn to my diet since it's corn based?  Also, I noticed it has soy as an ingredient - is that non applicable though since it's broken down to such a small level?


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Re: My Total Elimination Diet Journal
« Reply #50 on: January 05, 2009, 19:18:15 pm »
Tari,

Like I said before I'm not much help with allergies/intolerances...but when it comes to snotty noses, I'm your woman. If you can, try to get your hands on this:

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Re: My Total Elimination Diet Journal
« Reply #51 on: January 05, 2009, 19:39:01 pm »
Lol Shivi - I own TWO of those!!   ;D LOVE THEM!  Seriously want to have mine bronzed one day, I buy them for every baby shower I go to now.   I totally agree - best piece of baby equipment ever! 

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« Reply #52 on: January 05, 2009, 20:25:21 pm »
Thanks for the advice. Tomorrow I ll buy some avocados. What a day it will be, full of adventures: going to the ped, to do some shopping and to the pharmacy :) !

scarlett'smom, I was wondering if there was any specific reason why you have not yet tried potatoes. that would bring new food into your diet that you can make in so many different ways. I think it is really non-allergenic.

I am not adding anything to mine, except the avocado try, for two weeks to clear up traces. In fact I am not 100% sure about the reflux diet. Somewhere it was advised that mommy should eat as she had reflux and that will help baby. That is not very common thinking, but that is what I decided to do. That is why I am not eating tomatoes for example. What is your opinion about this?

will keep you posted on what the ped has to say.

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Re: My Total Elimination Diet Journal
« Reply #53 on: January 05, 2009, 20:37:25 pm »
Bovi - actually I think there is a thread of sense to the reflux diet advice you've gotten - I was advised early on not to eat acidic and citrus foods as we were looking for the cause - I think at some point we grasp at straws and if there is a possibilty it can help we go with it.  I can see the logic between tomatoes and reflux, although probably small, can't hurt at least until baby is a little older?  Not sure of the medical community answer though ;)

Regarding the potatoes - I actually was eating them at first but took them out after seeing that they can actually be a pretty severe allergenic food....from Wendy (mydreamcametrue) and her son, to other research I've done.  I really would like to add them back in and may in the near future (plus Lays potato chips are just potatoes and oil, no preservatives and would love to get back to munching on those!  lol). 

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Re: My Total Elimination Diet Journal
« Reply #54 on: January 05, 2009, 20:40:51 pm »
Tari here on the Neocate website is a brief description: http://www.neocate.com/aaa_neocate/13799-amino-acid-based-infant-formulas.html  "The amino acid-based formula, as Neocate, is an alternative hypoallergenic formula in which the proteins are broken down into their simplest and purest form, making it easier for the body to process and digest. This complete protein processing makes Neocate different from other infant formulas, being Neocate very well tolerated, easy to be absorbed and digested. "
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« Reply #55 on: January 05, 2009, 20:41:40 pm »
And this "Additionally, an amino acid-based formula as Neocate is hypoallergenic: single amino acids are least likely to cause an allergic response.
On opposite, whole proteins, that are in basic formulas, or bigger pieces of proteins, as they are in hydrolized formulas, are more allergenic and can inappropriately react with some components of the immune system, letting a food allergic reaction to occur."
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« Reply #56 on: January 05, 2009, 20:42:39 pm »
Oh, and I'm really glad it's a success for you! 
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« Reply #57 on: January 06, 2009, 16:00:42 pm »
Spectra, thank you for the links and info! very useful!

 :)

Our visit to the ped today:

vaccinations-DS took them fine, screamed once only, what a brave man!

eczema-it got really bad by this morning despite the hydrocortison, we have to use again a cream with antibiotics in it :( because it seems to be infected

reflux: he said  to stop motilium, as DS is not spitting up regularly. We stay with the gaviscon for now

elimination diet: ped sais it is unnecessary. He thinks it is enough if we treat the symptoms. What a backward thinking from the medieval ages! I am sure that both thing has a reason. With the reflux I understood that it can be a maturation phase, but now that he has this bad eczema I am sure that it is food related. and I ll do my best to find it and cure DS, not just treating syndroms!

mucous stool: ped said it was fine as long as he is putting on weight. Well I dont agree, it does not look and does not smell okay. I am gonna keep to my diet and then we ll see!

how are you all doing with your diets? I am missing bread. I think I will look for alternative bread recipe and bake my own. I wont try  the traditional wheat but the durum (not sure what this is in EN) one without yeast with baking powder.

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Re: My Total Elimination Diet Journal
« Reply #58 on: January 06, 2009, 19:35:21 pm »
Lol Shivi - I own TWO of those!!   ;D LOVE THEM!  Seriously want to have mine bronzed one day, I buy them for every baby shower I go to now.   I totally agree - best piece of baby equipment ever! 

couldn't agree more, also have two, one for DS (but he's just weaned himself from his LOL as he can blow his own nose now) and one for LO on the way!
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« Reply #59 on: January 11, 2009, 00:56:22 am »
Thanks Melanie!  :-* 

Bovi - doing well here w/my diet.  It's just gotten so commonplace now.  Am planning on introducing something new soon though, just hate the first couple bites as I wait to see if there's a reaction.  About the bread - there is also rice flour I believe and I think you are eating rice?  That would be a really safe for you.  Are you introducing anything new?  Did you try the avocados?  I forgot - how old is your LO again?  Hope you are doing well!

On a differnet note - CONGRATULATIONS to Shivi and her new beautiful baby girl!  ;D ;D I read your birth story - you are amazing.  Enjoy your new sweet baby.   :-*