Support Thread for 2 to 1 nap transition cont.

[Julianne1984]

I think it was ot, I was getting him in the bath lastnight and I saw the biggest yawn out the corner of my eye... at which point I hurried but only managed to get him in bed 15mins early

He's just starting to stir now, 5am woop xx

[Julianne1984]

How wrong was I, 5:40!!!!! Woohoo!!! Xxx

[Julianne1984]

Hmm, plan...

A 5:40-9:40
S 9:40-11:00
A 11:00-15:00
S 15:00-15:30
A 15:30-19:00.    Don't knowhow else to fitit all in lol xx

[JaspersMum]

Your plan looks good Julianne!

I'm happy as DS napped from 1.15pm til 3.10pm!  Yippee!  Am wondering again whether to continue with the short am/long pm . . but then on a day like tomorrow, where we have a BBQ lunch to attend, I rather he did a long am!  Oh well, I'll just have to keep mixing it up.  Praying for a later wake up tomorrow!

[shresmummy]

Hey ladies, Julianna!! yay again that's great, and your plan does look good. I know what you mean, I'm finding it really tough to fit it all in one day!

We had a fairly decent day today. She semi STTN last night and this morning had an AM nap from 10:45 - 12:30. My mistake. I have a really sore eye so I was resting as well and just let her sleep too long.  Anyway I AP'd a short PM catnap from 3:45 - 4:20 and then tried bedtime at 8. But she slept only at 8:20. Is it possible she needs 4hr still after a 30 min catnap??

Rachel, I was also thinking of doing the short AM long PM style for a bit. Because the short PM just keeps delaying bedtime up to 8:30!! I feel I have not time to unwind after such a late bedtime! Hope you have a good day at the BBQ tomorrow.

Enjoy your weekend everyone

[Julianne1984]

Hey, I used to give my lo 4hrs A time after a 30min nap, and only last week did someone point out it was waytoo much! Since then I try for 3hrs A after a 30min nap, which seems way way better and less stressful at bedtime. It could be possible your lo needs 4hrs A, but unlikely as 13months :| sorry that's of no use to you at all really is it lol. X

So today:

A 5:40-9:40
S 9:40-10:40
A 10:40-2:40
S 2:40-3:05
A 3:05-6:10

For some reason he woke from his pm nap early and was quite upset, I think it's the teething monster!!! Here's hoping for a 5-something wake-up!! Xx

[JaspersMum]

Thanks Priya!  I know what you mean about having to delay bedtime with a long am/short pm.  For me the problem with it too is that its russian roulette whether DS will even take that short pm nap.  Come to think of it, he has never been a great catnapper towards the end of the day.  When we eventually made it to 2 naps from 3 I was so happy!

Well my theory on DS late napping in the day affecting EW isn't true!  He did a short am/long pm yesterday but he had too long an A time before bed (4.5hrs - however the last 30 minutes was him alternating crying and me cuddling/giving meds for teeth) so was asleep just after 7.30 and we got an EW of around 6ish - not impressed.  My only conclusion is that he got 2.5 hours total day sleep which was perhaps 30minutes too much?

Today has been a bit wonky too.  After the early wake up he was a mess after 3 or so hours A time but I pushed him to 3.75.  His nap was just under 2 hours!  I tried for a pm nap 4 hours later - but it didn't work.  I know now I should have done 4.5.  I tried for bed just before 7pm but he whined a bit and I had to pat.  He eventually fell asleep 10 minutes after I left the room.  Fingers crossed for a decent wake up tomorrow!  I am very much heading toward short am/long pm but it is certainly going to make the day shorter, so:

Wake up - 6.30 at least hopefully
Nap 1 - 10 - 10.30
Nap 2 - 1 - 2.30
Bed - 6.30

??

[shresmummy]

Rachel, I know just what you mean. The exact same thing happened to us too. Remember I mentioned yesterday that I dozed off too and let her sleep too much during the day, by 30 mins? We had an EW today too. She had a good night last night, slept from 8:30 - 6 woke up I brought her in bed with me to see if she would sleep a bit more and she did thankfully from about 6:30 - 7:30ish. I did an Am nap from 11:15 - 12:!15 (She woke on her own happy) then we had to go out this evening so I AP'd a nap around 3:20.

She fussed so much and didn't want to go to sleep at all, but eventually did and then I had to wake her at 4:20. I thought it was a good day but bedtime was such a struggle again I just don't get it. I put her to bed around 8:00ish i thought a shorter nap perhaps slightly less A time than 4 hr? She too until 8:30 once again I had to AP. I am just so over this bedtime refusal. I cannot for the life of me figure out whether she's OT or UT.

I really want to do the short AM/long PM nap but that makes it quite hard to go out during the day because i feel that if we get slightly delayed she'll be OT for the PM nap. If I'm home it's fine though. But what point do I wake her up. 30 mins? 35? 45?

The other thing I was thinking to make the day shorter with the long AM/short pm option is after the 1.5 or long AM nap, give the lo's 4hr A time, then do 20 min catnap then do bedtime 2 hrs later. So say 11 - 12:30, then 4:30 - 4:50 then 7pm bedtime?  Who knows...

[Julianne1984]

Up at 4:30 today, I'm so fed up with all this. Am nap today after 4.5hrs A, 1hr!! Need another nap at 2ofan hour to makeit to bedtime. X

[Julianne1984]

So it went...

A 4:30-9
S 9-10
A 10-14
S 14-15:15
A 15:15-18:55... so he's had 2 good naps, a good peaceful bedtime... no OT (that I know of).. so surely there's no reason for another 4-something wake-up!? :| xx

[JaspersMum]

Julianne I think your boy's body clock is very much set at a particular wake up and its taking a long time to adjust.  Have you had any help from the experts?  Have they suggested treating it like a NW?  I wonder if it would help him if you tried to get him back to sleep within a couple of hours of waking . . would he sleep longer than an hour?

Priya you sound so much like my friend who has a spirited DD.  She is having bedtime battles at the moment too and keeps thinking its OT.  I know what you mean about the short am/long pm being better if you stay home, or know you'll be home in time for the that pm nap.  I think DH and I are very much used to the long am/short pm because those days we spend out and about together DS will just take the pm catnap in the car on the way home.  If you do choose the short am they say to cut it back by 15 minutes every few days.  So if she's doing 1.5 now, do 1.25, 1 hr, etc.

Our wake up today was slightly better, around 6.30am.  I did hear him stir early than that but I'm guessing he's not actually awake . . he's slowly waking up.  I wish I had a camera monitor in there!  He got really grizzly around 9ish but we kept him busy (he loves to help with vacuuming!) and then had morning tea and by the time we took him to his room he didn't seem too tired, but went down nicely at 10.35am.  It is now 11.30am so I'm not doing short am today!!  I will definitely wake him up at the 1.5 mark though, which will be 12.05pm.  I'll then try for a 30 minute catnap at 4ish and then bed at 7.30pm.  Here's hoping that yields a 6.30am wake up at least!

[Julianne1984]

Hey, yeah he has a very clever body clock sometimes! He can do more than an hour... there was that 3hr nap last week for example where he woke at 1hr mark but went back to sleep on me

It's 5am now and I can hear him starting to stir xx

[JaspersMum]

PM nap refusal again today.  He just didn't seem tired when I put him down so I should have known better.  MUST cut the am nap - can't do it any other way.

[Julianne1984]

I hate having to cut naps, I feel so guilty waking him! Hope today's better for you!

How wrong was I! He woke just after 5, grizzled a little, I went in once, gave him milk, 45m after waking he'd nodded off again until 7:15 can't believe it! Xx

[kayra]

hi everyone, i've been looking for this thread, so just wanted to mark my spot.
hope everyone has a good day
xx