Support Thread for 2 to 1 nap transition cont.

[JaspersMum]

DS slept a blissful 12 hours last night!  Probably the 2nd or 3rd time he's ever done that!  Went to bed at 6.30 and woke at 6.30 - that was after a 1.5 hour nap yesterday from 10.30 - 12.

Today the poor thing didn't nap until 1pm!!  My mum's fault.  He only slept 1.5 hours and, though happy, he had red eyes by the time I picked him up at 5.30.  Put him to bed at 7.10pm . . he cried for five minutes and I had to lay my hand on his back for a good 10 minutes before he fell asleep.  He was lying down like he wanted to sleep but I think he just couldn't relax . . OT due the morning!

MIL has him tomorrow . . I'm going to suggest she do one nap.

[rach321]

Can I join you ladies? It looks like the 2-1 switch has caught up with us......sigh.  Luckily we don't have any nap refusal yet  - just EW any time from 4.50am! Going to start pushing the am nap forward on Friday so we can have a good run at it over Christmas since he's not back at nursery until after Christmas, although he always takes 1 nap at nursery and seems to do OK, some days a bit OT if he hasn't napped well. Wish me luck!!

[Brodster'sMommy]

Jaspersmom, that's fabulous news!!! Are you sticking to one nap now? Hopefully MIL can get him down sooner next time I hope it continues to go well with you. Keep us all updated!

Welcome Rach321! You've come to the right place. Seems we are all caught in this 2-1 switch. Good luck pushing for to one nap. Keep us posted with your progress and what works/doesn't work. We are all learning from eachother. 

[scucci1979]

Hi Ladies

Wondering if I can join.  My little Madison is 13months old and we are so close to one nap.  She does a nice long am nap followed by a 20min CN.  Last month we had frequent NWs and it took me a while to realize that she needed less day sleep and more A time. Her nights have improved drastically except the odd for the odd screams, which I think are her molars.


Here is our routine:

wake 7:05am
A 7:05-11:20am
nap 1 11:20-1:20pm
A 1:20pm-4:40pm
CN 4:40pm-5pm
A 5-7:30/7:45pm
bedtime 7:30-7:45pm

There are some nights when she has lots of energy and will go to sleep close to 8pm.

Right now she is handling 4hrs and 15 min of A in the morning.  The last few mornings she has been stirring/in and out of sleep between 6:30am-7am.  I am not sure if she is getting a little OT or if I should push out her first A time again.  Tonight, for instance she was very very  cranky so I had to put her down 10min earlier.  Should I leave her A as is for the moment?

Any ideas?

thanks so much

[JaspersMum]

Hi ladies,

Well we are suddenly and finally in 1 nap land, although I wasn't planning it til after xmas!  There are positives and negatives so far:

Positives:
He's sleeping longer stretches at night (11.5, 12 hours)
I'm not stressing over waking him/trying to get a pm nap in

Negatives:
I think he's majorly OT so when it comes time to have his bedtime breastfeed, he is screaming blue murder (maybe he's weaning too?  but then he doesn't even want a bottle), and then when he goes in the cot, needs me stay in the room til he falls asleep

Admittedly the last three days have been haphazard.  The first day and today his pm A time was way too long (refused pm nap first day, today he wouldn't go down) and yesterday his am A time was way too long (my mum put him down tooooo late).

Will see how we go!

[Julianne1984]

Oh that sounds good! We've managed 8days of one nap, and today it seems OT is creeping in and he's hopefully going to have a little CN later today.xx

[saltyqueen]

Can I please join in, too, ladies? My dd will be 13 months old on December 24th and we're in the midst of the 2 to 1 transition, also.

A few weeks ago, I shortened my dd's 1st nap to 1 hour because the PM nap had become such a struggle. And it worked great for a couple of weeks. But then her 2nd nap started to get shorter (1 hour down from 1.5 or more), so I cut her AM nap down to 50 minutes. This worked by extending her PM nap to about an hour 20 minutes but it only worked for a couple of days. Now we seem to be back to square one. Yesterday and today, she was protest whining for over a half hour in her crib before her 2nd nap, despite the fact that I shortened her AM nap even further to 45 minutes, AND didn't even bring her to her room until 3.5 hours after her first nap ended. I don't know what to do now. I'm not even sure if she's OT or UT. Her nighttime sleep, though has been good. Here's what her schedule today has looked like so far:

6:30 woke up
10:00 first nap
10:45 woke her up
3:00 (she didn't fall asleep until 3 this afternoon b/c she protest whined for almost 40 minutes after I put her in her crib)
7 - 745 bedtime (depending on how this second nap goes)

Does anyone know where I should be going from here? Should I be shortening the AM nap even further? Should I be jumping to just one nap? I feel confused, especially since her nap habits seem to have changed so quickly. As I said, just a few weeks ago, she was doing so well with a one hour morning nap and a great 1.5 to 2 hour PM nap. Does it sound normal to you that things have changed so rapidly? Again, my daughter will be 13 months old on December 24th.

Thank you so much for reading!! I can see that we're all struggling and in need of attention, but if you have any input for me, I'd so appreciate it!!

Katherine

Update: She is still sleeping and is approaching 2 hours for her second nap so perhaps it isn't yet time to further shorten her 1st nap. But why did it took her so long to settle down for it? Thanks again for reading!

[JaspersMum]

Just a stab in the dark but could she have protested for 40 minutes before the second nap because you put her down too late?  I would think after a 45 minute nap that she could only tolerate around 3 hrs A time, so I would have put her down around 1.45ish.  If this helps, stick with the 45 minute am nap.  Don't be surprised that its happening quickly!  My DS was down to a 30 minute nap at about 13.5 months after starting the 2-1 at about 10.5 months.

[saltyqueen]

I could try taking her to her room earlier but I'm just not sure. She ended up sleeping for over 2 hours so clearly she was tired. She had a really bad nap day yesterday so maybe she was making up for it. I could try shortening the A time a bit. Thank you, Jasper's mom!!!

[shresmummy]

Sorry ladies, I've been a bit busy the past few days. Just quickly wanted to say hi before I have to rush off again. Rachel, that is great news!! I hope the transition continues smoothly for you. We seem to be in a trend where we will have 2 or 3 good 1 nap days then an EW so we have 2 naps for that day. But I think the EW days are due to the 6hr A time before childcare day naps. I'm hoping that now for the next 3 weeks since I"m home I can do the 5hr A time on either side and get her body into a good routine.

Welcome salty queen and sabs. hopefully we can support you through this transition! I have to rush off now, but promise I"ll be back later and read your posts.

Good luck everyone.

[rach321]

Arrrgh we have a 4.50am wake up call this morning! Still its the last day of nursery for a week and a bit so I'm hoping we can get the solid 5hr A time either side of a 2hr nap sorted before he goes back! On the plus side he sleeps soundly from 7pm till 5am so I guess that's a good thing but he was definitely OT last night nefore bed so might go for an early bedtime tonight.  Its difficult when OH doesn't get home till after 6pm, so it means they don't have much time together. 

[JaspersMum]

So day 4 of one nap and we're doing well.  He is teething so I get now why he's been hard to get down the past few nights.  Tonight was bliss though as I medicated!  Here was our day:

Wake - 6.10am (after a 10.5 hr night - not impressed - thinking OT)
Nap - 11.05 - 1.35!
Bed 6.40, asleep 6.45pm

[Julianne1984]

Wow that's a great nap!

Today is day 9 and we had to go for 2 naps as he was up at 4:40am! He napped from 9-11:30, and 4:20-4:50, bed at 7:25... now with any luck he'll be up at 6 and we can have a good few days of 1 nap again. It's virtually impossible with 5am wake-ups. And we have figured (for now) that 2hr naps come after 5h A's!

Its looking busy on this thread! Xx

[Brodster'sMommy]

It's been a while since I posted - Ive been busy on my own thread. I thought DS had made a smooth tradition over to 1 nap and then he got sick. Such a bummer. Poor little guy is coughing so hard he throws up. Yucky bug. Any routine we had going was thrown out. Now I'm on 2 naps trying to get him rested up since he spends most of the night awake and crying. Poor guy doesn't want to lie down. So I'm in limbo for now. Hopefully DS will recover quickly so we can rest up before the Holidays. I could use the rest too! I haven't seen bags like this under my eyes in a while

Glad things are improving for some and I have my fingers crossed for everyone else. It's so tough! But this thread (and website) has been great at keeping me sane throughout this transition  

 

[JaspersMum]

Oh Brodster'sMommy, that bug sounds terrible!  Your poor little man (and you!)  Hope he gets better soon!  I've been trying to follow both yours and Julianne's threads.

Julianne, I hope you get a decent wake up!

I'm starting to think 2.5 hours for a day nap is too long because its robbing his night sleep.  Either that or he's OT and that accounts for the early wakes (6am this morning!)

Today has been atrocious.  We went to meet some friends at a play cafe at 9.30am.  I should have made it later, because he didn't sleep on the way there (too early) and then started to melt down around 10.45am.  Finally left around 11.15am and he fell asleep in the car at 11.20.  Got woken at 11.40 though when my phone rang.  He was not a happy boy!  Refused to go to sleep when we got home, and refused to sleep 2.5 hours later, so I ended up having to get in the car and drive around!  Only managed 30minutes.  I want to put him to bed early but DH is complaining he never sees him so undoubtedly he'll be in bed late.  *Sigh*