Is this an EW?

[Tweakster]

Hi there, yep it sounds like he's used to that A time now and ready for a bit more.  Try 3 hours by using low key time, just extend the wind down.  Then be careful with the next A time so he doesn't go OT.

6 mths was spent in pure OT misery for us...I am not really sure now how we got out of it but I know I pushed those A times to get rid of that CN.  One of the issues we had is that he saw the CN as part of his night sleep...so it might be time to cut back on that a bit, or offer it earlier for him. 

I just remember around 7.5 mths, he did 2 perfect naps and the day and night went well and I felt this immense weight off my shoulders.  It went well for 2 mths...and now we are back to no PM nap this week and major crankface.  Ah well hehe. 

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Oh my, Wendy! 

Today was more like our normal schedule as of late but things have gone to you-know-where already tonight and it's only 9:40!

6:40: A
8: E
8:55: S
9:15: A
11:10: E (we had an appt so it was a little early)
1:15: S (I APOP'd this and nursed to sleep since we got home at 2:55 of A time and he was starting to lose it)
3:15: A (best nap in a while! Hope it wasn't b/c of the APOP  )
3:20: E
4:25: solids (still working on these, been introducing them for a week but today was the first day he actually had more than a bite, he had about 5 bites of pear!)
5:30- bed winddown - bath, massage, nurse, book, swaddle, sleep
6:05-S
8:25: awake, crying - went in and did shh/pat, PU/PD, something is definitely bothering him, I gave tylenol since it had been a while since I fed him, he'll settle and almost fall asleep and then wake up crying. DH is up with him now, I'm about to just go feed him even though I know he's not hungry since he had so much BM and also the solids.  Maybe the pears are bugging his tummy?

What a night it will be I imagine....

[Jiinx]

reading a long..having almost the same issues

Perhaps introduce the solids in the morning to have his tummy work it out so you can eliminate it as gas at night?

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Yeah, I have been trying to do solids earlier in the day but today with our appt and his naps it just didn't work.  It hadn't mattered before since he wasn't really taking them but I guess now I have to make sure to keep them in the morning.

I went up and nursed him.  He took a full feed but still isn't asleep!  He wasn't upset, though, so I gave him a kiss and left.  He's up there now babbling and whining.  What is going on with this kid? 

[Jiinx]

maybe our kids are communicating to each other...had a nw too. She was so exhausted by my inability to put her to sleep prior to feeding that she fell asleep, so tired. Also gave her some tylenol. I really don't want to rely on meds to put her to sleep!

So sorry you're going through a rough patch..hopefully our kids will work out something...

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Thanks for the camaraderie, Jiinx.  Sorry you were up last night too.     Silly kiddos.

In the end he was up for 2.5h! We haven't had a long NW like that for ages.  After I fed him he was whining/babbling, and occasionally escalating such that I went in there, for another hour.  BF always works when he's freaking out so I don't get that.  I finally just BF again, I was so desperate for him to not lose any more sleep, and he went down at 11. I still am not sure what was bothering him, teeth, solids, or what. 

But beyond that, then he was up at 2:20, 4:20, and 6.  I fed at 2:20, shh/pat at 4, and he was up at 6.  I feel like he's still expecting to eat every 3-3.5h in the night even though during the day he's going longer and I know at this point he should be able to go at least 6 at night without eating.  I think this is new from the GS.  Not sure what to do about this now?

Thanks ladies....

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One more thing. 

Not totally sure what to do with A times today after 9.5h of nighttime sleep.  I feel like I should shorten them but yesterday I was thinking about pushing the first one, so maybe just leave that one the same?  We were at 2h45 for all A times yesterday.

Thanks. 

[Tweakster]

Hi there Kate, I would just watch him very carefully and let him lead this one.  9.5 hours is going to cause OT if not careful.  I would try not to reduce A times too much, just keep the activity way more low key and see if you can keep him on track. 

I agree with Sarah on the solids, keep them to the morning when they are new and have not been through the system yet.

I was up from 2 - 4 - we should get our kids together lol.  Sometimes there is no why, there is only "what can I do right here and right now to get out of this mess".  APOP is ok when OT - I rocked Finn for his very short PM nap yesterday.  Sometimes it's all we have in our bag of tricks.

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Thanks for validating my APOP, Wendy.    I definitely had nothing left, esp after I fed him once and he still wouldn't sleep - that always works!

Sorry to hear you guys were up, too.  We definitely should have gotten them together, they could have had a nice little party together and we could have gotten back to bed!

So should I not worry about all these NW to eat until I get him back on track?  I feel like I've been saying that for almost 2 weeks now!

I kept the first morning A at 2h40, he was starting to lose it then.  Of course it's a babysitter morning so I left it kind of up to her discretion.  She's usually pretty good, we'll see.

 

[Jiinx]

lol

so funny.

Wow your child is doing so much more A than mine. I get her to 2 H and 30 and she's complaining her head off. Gah. I should push it though despite her whinings and crying. Maybe it'll give me some miraculous 1.5 naps.

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Well, as always, he took a great nap for the babysitter!  He always seems to nap better when I'm not at home.  Maybe I have some sort of stress vibe, hoping he'll stay down!

Any reason to think yesterday's routine had anything to do with last night's NWs?  Just asking since we're on the same timetable today.  I decided not to do the CN yesterday when he got up at 3:15, just did a 6pm bedtime.  today he'll probably (hopefully!) be up from his 2nd nap around the same time, any reason to think I shouldn't do the same thing again? 

Jiinx - Austin has always been high on A times and he was also 2 weeks late so he's always a little ahead.  I think that makes me forget to up him, sometimes, though!

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Why, oh why did I write this post??? 

He woke up after an hour (2:30) so I guess it's a CN day after all...We'll see if that makes any difference tonight!

[Jiinx]

aw, I'm sorry Kate It's so tough, hey...

I know by the end of day, it's a battle to get my lo to take a CN but I'm so relieved when she does take it. Then she's not too OT by the end of the day and if she had crappy nap times during the day at least she got some Zzzs before bed and hopefully it won't affect her night sleep.

Funny that you're two weeks ahead...we're two weeks back..I know it's still counts as to term but I do find she's two weeks behind on developmental stuff!

If he's doing great with his early bedtime then continue It's nice that you're phasing out the CN..it's kind of hit and miss for another month..or maybe a couple of weeks for you!

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Good news to report!  He went down at 7:05, woke at 11 to eat, at 3:30 I fed him but he fell asleep after 1 side so I figured, hey maybe we'll wean the middle of the night feed this way by decreasing the length of the feed over time, but of course he woke again at 4:30 screaming for more food so I gave him the other side and he slept until.....7:30!! I couldn't believe it when I woke up and it was actually kind of light out!  I was actually a little worried there for a second!  Haha.

So, Wendy, if it seems he really is hungry should I not think about trying to move/get rid of this 3ish AM feed?  I just can't believe that he really needs to eat every 4 hours but if he woke after an hour after only having 1 side, maybe he really does need to eat that often around the clock?  We're still working on solids.  He's warming up to it, but by no means is he getting many calories in.

Hope you had a better night over there!   

[Tweakster]

Hi there Kate, if he's hungry I think you feed him.  If he didn't settle after 1 side then it does sound like it.  I never BF so it's hard for me to judge, but I know that many still take night feeds until solids are well-established.  Growth spurts can be long.

We had 6:20 - 5:45 - no complaints today!  And he knocked off 2x 2 hr naps...I suspect he's teething or fighting a bug because he never sleeps like that lol.  I let him since I figure he needs the sleep...it will probably backfire and he'll be up to play at 4 a.m. after so much day sleep hehe.  Sometimes you gotta roll the dice though.