Still having NWs at 18 months.

[Kay Dee]

Sounds like a good plan. Keep us posted

[Kay Dee]

Before we started having nws again she was doing 5hr A before her nap, 1.5hr nap and then i was putting her into bed for 5hr 50min A and she would be asleep within 10mins having a 6hr A.

Actually, the more I think about it you are totally right and going back to A times rather than set naps would probably work best for her as she seems more sensitive to the amount of A in her day. So keep the shorter nap but with the same A times as before 5hr A / 1hr 15mins nap / 6hr A. Especially since the shorter A to bed isn't working anyway! And keeping one of them short should help keep OT at bay.

[Jem88]

Hmm, she was actually asleep for 8.00pm last night but she woke at 10.35pm, then 30mins later at 11.15pm where i gave her some nurofen, she then slept until 4.45am where i woke up to her chatting/playing so i'm not exactly sure when she woke up but she wanted to get up for the day - i then left her playing until 5.10am where i got her some milk to see if she'd settle again and she then went quiet about 5.20am and i then fell asleep and woke at 7.30am, went in to see LO and she was laying down with her eyes open so not sure how long she'd actually been awake.

On a morning she doesn't wake up crying, she wakes up and either lays there quiet and then starts to play/chat, which does wake me up but i'm not sure if i wake up straight away when she's chatting/playing or if she's been doing it a while before i wake up as she's not that loud.

But yesterday went:

7.55am - up.
1.00pm - nap
2.15pm - up 1hr 15mins
8.00pm - bed.

I had her in bed for 7.45pm thinking she'd chat and play until 8.15pm but she fell asleep at 8, i'm thinking she woke at 4.45am wide awake as her day was only 12hrs? x

[Jem88]

I did 5hr before her nap and she settled fine, but woke up crying after 30mins but i got her back to sleep, she then woke 15mins later chatting then went quiet again after a about a minute - this was 10mins ago and i haven't been up to check so i'm not sure if she's awake or went back to sleep. :S

[Kay Dee]

Could 5hrs A be too short for her now? If you do 5hrs 30 mins A/ 1hr 15min nap / 5hrs 45mins A that would give you your 12.5hr day

[Jem88]

She was awake, so she only had 30mins and has been grumpy since I guess i could do the above Just worried that she'll mess about at bedtime again but if i wake her at 7.00am (will start setting my alarm.) and keep to the set A times then maybe she'll not mess around after abit. x

[Jem88]

I had her in bed for 7.00pm tonight and she fell asleep a few mins before 7.10pm. I didn't want to put her to bed any earlier as she was up for the day at 7.30am. She started with a runny nose this morning, has been stuffy and sneezing, i just hope it's down to her teething and getting her top right molar and hopefully not another cold!.

I've gave her nurofen before bed so hopefully that might help and i'm hoping for an okay night. x

[Truly Blessed]

Hello Honey,

I have read through your thread briefly and with fresh eyes I have to say she just sounds dreadfully OT to me. IME and others when it gets to this stage you're getting NW or EW it can be really beneficial to allow catch up. IIWM I would allow a 2 hour nap bringing it forward and then do EBT if she short naps. If she takes the long nap then I would recommend a longer day rather than a shorter nap. Then when she feel better reassess. She seems very young even if LSN to have her nap capped so short 

Vicki.x.

[Jem88]

When she was still on 2 naps she was having a 30min AM and 1.5hr PM, so when she went onto 1 nap i was letting her have 2hr max and it wasn't until i cut her nap to 1.5hr she started sttn with only 1 wake up, she did this for about 6 weeks. she then got a cold & cough and her sleep went awful for a week & abit, she then sttn with 1 wake up again for 3 days, then we started having problems again.

I know she doesn't need a longer nap, anything over 1.5hr gives us for than 1 NW due to her being UT i guess.

So yesterday i put her down for her nap after 5hr A, she fell asleep within 10mins as normal but woke after 30mins, we then had a restful nights from 7-10pm but she then slept 10pm - 4.30am (grumbled but didn't really wake) and was up for the day at 6.50am. I then did her nap for 5.5hr A today and again she fell asleep within 10mins as usual and woke herself after 1hr 15mins.

I then had her in bed for 7.30pm, but it took an hour for her to settle and go to sleep. So she ended up with a 6hr 50min A before bed!. We have no problems with her settling before her naps. She settled for bed within 10mins yesterday but was restless for the first 3hrs so i guess she was OT from the short nap yest. x

[Jem88]

Hmmm, i really don't know. We had 6 NWs last night, the first one she woke after 30mins really upset, started coughing/crying and was sick. But the rest of the NWs she woke up chatting/mumbling. She also woke at 3.30am wide awake, i left her chatting for 15mins then went in and she started asking for the ball then wanted me to pick her up - so i went and got some milk as she didn't eat much tea and then was sick after bedtime.

She then settled about 4.00am but woke for the day at 6.30am.

The first wake up i'd say she was OT but the other ones i'd say she was UT, but i don't know.

I'm going to do 5.5hr before her nap again today but she's stopping at my mums for the night tonight so i'm not sure when she'll settle at bedtime. x

[Truly Blessed]

Hiya,

and then was sick after bedtime.

So is she poorly 

Can I ask how long her day was when she was having a 2 hour nap 

Try and relax while your Mam's got her  they can cope, although If your anything like me, you won't 

Vicki.x.

[Jem88]

She started with a cold about 2 days ago then the cough started last night, she actually done the same as in made herself sick as she was upset/coughing when she started with her cold a few weeks ago.

I can't actually remember but i know if i do a 2hr nap she'll take even longer to settle at bedtime. x

[Truly Blessed]

I can't actually remember but i know if i do a 2hr nap she'll take even longer to settle at bedtime. x

I was asking this in case her day was 12 hours long Hun. DS needed a 13 hour day for a 2 hour nap to work. Do you think you could stop cutting the nap back any more if her day was longer so she would settle better at BT. That's my train of thought. What's her planned routine atm 

x.

[Kay Dee]

I'm not sure if it would work Vicki, Jem's DD is doing a 6hr A time after a 1hr 15min nap so a longer nap, if she would take it, would make for a very long day

[Truly Blessed]

Gosh she likes her long A times then, I'm presuming she needs a long one in the morning too 

Okay Ladies I'll leave you to it  I just wanted to look over with fresh eyes, I feel so sorry for her and just trying to figure out why the NW haven't stopped if cutting the nap further was the right move YK Usually it's OT to blame all the way in the long term  and LO's have to CU somehow  .

Everything X'd things get better soon. Big (HUG)

Vicki.x.