Help needed with ASAP with today's EASY and how to beat major OT?

[AMJ]

Oh how I hope! Good night!

[AMJ]

The night was horrible. Awake from 12:20 to  1:10. The again from around 2:30 maybe earlier tossing an turning. Not really awake but trying to resettle for about 1hr maybe longer I don't know cause I fell asleep.
Then up at 4:15am (BT was at 5:50pm) and this is only the beginning. I don't know how much worse it could get. I feel like we are back to a newborn stage. Even when we switched to one nap it never was so bad. She slept throught the night.

P.S. DD started to aske for breast before the nap. We were down to 1bf before BT but now I've been giving her the breast before the nap on hopes it will help her calm down faster. Do you think it's ok or it will create a prop? She is breastfed and then we read a book and she goes in the crib wide awake. Thanks

[lilac83]

Ugh, sorry to hear about the rough night and EW. What was her routine like when she first went to 1 nap? Did you go by A time? What was her wake up and bedtime? I am seriously shocked that she's waking up at 4:15 and thinking it's time to start her day. Is it pitch black in her room? How is she eating during the day? Do you think she's waking up because she's hungry, even if she's not crying for food maybe she just feels empty?  Honestly, this may not be routine related at all because you're doing everything you possibly can do. Have you taken her to a dr to get her ears checked? Does she have her molars and eyeteeth yet? Sorry for all the questions

Giving her a BF before nap won't turn into a prop as long as she's not falling asleep during her feed. Hopefully the feed does calm her and fill her and she takes a long nap!

[AMJ]

When we first went to 1 nap she used to wake up at around 5-5:30am, and a handful of times 6:15. We followed the advice of the sleep consultant and followed A times. We weren't really sure about the right As though. So we climes up to 6hrs of morning A because she would nap for 2hrs and in few days she would nap for 1hr50m then 1.5hrs so we thought she neede more A so we kept pushing the A until one day she started to fall asleep during E in the hight chair. Her BT I think was 6:30/7 then 6 then 6:30 and eventual her WU got to 4am but then the traveling saved us!  We tried 2 naps and her 2nd nap was 30m but she would take forever to fall asleep and would cry herself to sleep. When she would wake she was just miserable, hysterical uncontrollable and wouldn't get of from my arms until I put her back in the crib for BT.

It is really dark in her room only a little night light is on and she had it like that from the very beginning. At one point we tried to get rid of it but nothing changed with her sleep so we put it back for me to see a little in the room when I need to go in. Like today I went in to check on her at 4:45 and she pooped so I knew she was up. I changed her and left and she didn't fall back asleep.

She is eating like a grown man lol. It seems that the less she is sleeping the more she is eating. She has a huge apetite. She eats 3 meals 2 snacks and now we are back to 2 breastfeedings.
I haven't taken her to the dr  but she doesn't seem sick. She never had an ear infection or anything else apart from 2 colds. Her 3rd canine recently erupted so I was blaming it but now that it cut through the gum about a week ago I don't think it was the tooth. I don't see the 4th canine even close to erupting.

She was jusst so OT before then nap but managed to nap for 2hr but again WU crying so I know that wasn't enough. So I guess I'm sticking to set times, get BT at 6. I know you said you have ur DD in the crib 20m before actual sleep time but since my DD takes so much longer to fall asleep now I'm thinking of puting her in the crib at 5:15??

The thing is when I have her 12/12.5hr days she didn't wake up at night at all and slept for 11/11.5hrs few times so I don't think she is sick at all. But now because of this OT her balance is so off she is falling all the time and has both of her lips cracked and swollen.

P.S. We just came back from the dr and he didn't find anything wrong with her health. She is a mystery

[lilac83]

Good news she's not sick!

Definitely stick with those set times. There's no way you could do A time with a wake up before 5am. You'd be digging yourself a grave getting earlier and earlier wake ups. Eventually she's going to have a crash and either do a super long nap or a solid 12 or even 13 hour night. I mean, it HAS to happen. The human body isn't built to sustain prolonged periods of sleeplessness! Once she crashes you can decide the best way going forward - start counting A time again or staying with the set nap.

The only thing that might throw a wrench in this is if she is indeed a LSN child and UT is leading to all this OT. It's not completely unheard of for 16-18 month olds needing capped naps. But it seems you are pretty sure she's at least average SN?

[AMJ]

Ok for sure set times then.
I think she is an average SN baby although she used to do only 10/10.5 hr night for a while but I think it was from OT.

Today she was tired but not acting to crazy. I'm not sure why. The only thing is that we didn't go to the playground but went to the dr. And before BT she was pretty calm. She only took 30m to fall asleep.

Thank you again!

[lilac83]

Yay for the quick bedtime!

Glad to help!

[AMJ]

Hi this is just a rant. The naps are getting shorter and she is waking crying/screaming and can't resettle. Before BT she can't settle and cries so I sit wit her and rub her hand until she calms down and falls asleep. I'm so afraid of this becoming a prop. At night she is either up and can't resettle or she is up at 4am.

[lilac83]

Sorry to hear things aren't improving. It's so hard when they are obviously tired but won't/can't sleep. I'm going through a bit of that here as well today. Had to rock her to sleep this morning so she could catch a quick catnap and hopefully a long afternoon nap as she decided not to nap at all yesterday. 

[AMJ]

Oh wow no nap at all? Hugs. Is that a usual for her?

[lilac83]

No not usual thank goodness! We're going through a patch of SA and she's taking her first steps so things are a bit off for her. Hope you had a better night last night!

[AMJ]

Oh I see. I hope she gets her rest.

Last night wasn't that great. She was awake from 1:50 till 3:25 and then started to wake up at around 4ish tossing and reining for about 30m but then resettled and I think she was up at around 6:30. Since we are on the set nap would you still offer the nap at 10:30?

[lilac83]

Yeah, definitely. She'll probably be more tired since she was up in the night.

[AMJ]

Thanks. She barely made it to 10:30. She wanted to nap at 8:30 ish! During wind down she was falling asleep and as soon as I put her down in the crib she was out. WU multiple times through the nap but resettled on her own. All together 2hrs25m but again very broken down nap.

Good luck to you too with your DD

[AMJ]

P.S. Her head felt a bit too warm so I checked her temperature with an ear thermometer but it was fine. I checked mine as well and it was also fine. After her nap she was more miserable then usual. Honestly I'm surprised she didn't fall asleep in the car. Once we got home I checked her temperature again but it read fine but she felt warmer then before. So I used an rectal thermometer and she has a fever of 38.6 C. Gosh I panicked since she never has a high temperature. That's why she was so exhausted all day. Never again I will trust an ear thermometer, so inaccurate.

My questions is would you put her to sleep when she is ready since she is not feeling well? Let's say for a nap as early as she wants and then maybe she would take a second nap but if she won't then it won't help. Or an early BT?