where to for nearly 10mo?

[jessmum46]

I think UT can give you happy long NWs at any age.  I think we've had some crying NWs related to UT too but if you can see a tooth has just broken the gum, I'd probably blame that first.

This link might help with day sleep amounts: Typical Amounts of Day and Night Sleep Looks like 2.5-3h would be pretty average at 10 months.

[3littlemen]

Thanks Katherine. I just noticed your DS2 - our DS2 is Ben as well (though just Ben, not Benjamin!).

Today looked like this
up 6.20 (crying NW at 11 and again at 3 for half an hour got the better of me and in our bed from then)
napped 10-11.35(stirred)-12pm when I woke him
napped (in at 3.35) 3.45-4.30 when I woke him (he was not happy with me either!)
in bed at 7.25, asleep 7.35pm
So the day is looking textbook beautiful. I've dosed him up for meds at bt, but unless the naps go screwy and the nights don't eventually settle down once the tooth/teeth appear - would you say leave as is? How would I know if the last nap/a time isn't right?

[jessmum46]

I think leave as is for now - I found it near-on impossible to tweak during teething.  Once the teeth are through I would say you'd know the last A was wrong if you start getting BT resistance (UT) or early NWs (OT) - at least that's generally what happened here.

[3littlemen]

oh my oh my... nw crying at 1ish and then from 3.45am to 5.10am....oh boy. didn't help me having a migraine and DH being as sympathetic to L as a bull in a china shop... L did go back to sleep until 7 though.

mmm, here's hoping it's teeth.

Thanks again for your help Katherine.

[jessmum46]

(((Hugs))) for the rough night, hope today is better x

[3littlemen]

oh dear..... a good day, woke from last nap (longer one of the day as first one had been UT), bt 7.30 like a dream, then up crying at 11.30 and again at 3.30. At least the 3.30 lasted only 1h15 or so.... unlike yesterday's, but by golly, I hope it's teeth... mind you, I've also done a reasonable job of keeping him in his cot (not putting him in with us) and settling him there as opposed to cuddling with me in bed, so maybe he is protesting that as well.

mmm....need coffee... preferably IV with a good helping of chocolate on the side!

Today
nw's 11.25pm (ss) 3.25am for at least 1h10
wu 6.20
napped (in at 9.45) 9.50-10.45 woke crying
napped (in at 2.13) 2.15-4.22 (woken by me)

how long til I can assume it's not teeth, and it's something else? dyt??

[jessmum46]

The really bad bit of teething only ever lasted a few days with us, so I'd say if it's still happening in a week you may want to re-evaluate x

[3littlemen]

Well at least that's over.... no mad crying sessions last night Thank Goodness!! But naps are weird today...

woke 6.20
napped (in at 9.50) 9.55-10.30
napped (in at 1.50) 2.00-3.00

He went down really easy last night at 7.30, so don't quite know how that works out. L's murmuring to himself now, but I don't like my chanvces of him going back to sleep... guess that means EBT! of 6!!!

[3littlemen]

finished with bt 6.46, nw at 10.15 crying til resettled at 10.24, then wu this morning at 5.10 with possibly a biochemical hazard in his nappy!! Pooowee.....

Just wondering, what is the correct approach to an ew? Do you go for a shorter than usual a time, regular a time, or regular nap time?

It has always stumped me, and I think that is where half the problem might be found!!

[jessmum46]

Ha, well if there was a right answer.....

I think probably the BW way is to go by A times, possibly a tiny bit shorter than usual if night was really bad but not too short or you risk encouraging further EWs.  Other schools of thought would say stick with normal nap time (if you have a usual clock time) and let LO sort it out.  Might be a risky strategy if your LO doesn't handle OT well though....

[3littlemen]

Last night wasn't too bad, though it helped that I caved in and put Liam in our bed around 3, but he did sleep = restlessly - until 6.20am. I was aiming for a 10am nap, latest, but life got in the way and we couldn't get home, so he collapsed in the ranger  at 10.50...and slept until 1.45Pm!!! I have put him down now at 6.06pm. He was just starting to make out he'd had enough (which he never normally does, on regular days when we stay at home). So yes, I know we're 2-1, but do I now start to work that first a time out to 4h+? gradually of course...I'd just been holding it stationary (or attempting to) at 3h30/45 tops.

[jessmum46]

Yes I'd slowly start pushing it out, 10-15 mins extra at a time and hold for a good few days-week before changing again.

[3littlemen]

yep well I have learnt that those ew cry fests last week weren't necessarily OT... at 6.46pm he woke up and it's been on for young and old ever since.... 1h20+ oh  boy. at least I'm not asleep trying to do it....not pretty.

obviously first a time was wwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy too long...and a time until bed time much the same. But yikes, should I have woken him instead of letting him sleep that long???!!! DH wants to know why if he's so tired, does he just not go to sleep!! yep, if I knew that L would be asleep!!

[jessmum46]

No I never woke DD up on a one nap day unless we hit 3 hours.  But if you want to get a second nap in I would wake by 2h x

(Btw - your DHs question is about as sensible as all those people who say "he'll sleep when he's tired"!! Lol )

[3littlemen]

at least DH sticks with me - if I say this is what we're doing he does it...actually DH will go to sleep at 3am with earmuffs on, so at least someone is sleeping. Well he crashed at 8.50pm, and slept straight through until 6am. So that explains my 9hr nights - OT ones. Now I don't know whether to push a time today or leave as is. We're not going anywhere so it's not like it'll be late today. I think i'll aim for 3h45 as last time he had a good night (11hr) we got an UT nap on 3h30. What's the worse that can happen???!!!! **sarcasm***