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Offline jessmum46

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Re: It's all gone to hell in a handcart
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2015, 06:28:23 am »
Keep going :). One day we will look back and this phase won't seem so long.  I know it was awful with DD but I have no permanent scars ;) xx
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Re: It's all gone to hell in a handcart
« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2015, 14:37:08 pm »
 :) :) Thanks for the encouragement. Much needed and appreciated
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Re: It's all gone to hell in a handcart
« Reply #32 on: April 29, 2015, 04:26:19 am »
Quote from: jessmum46 on April 28, 2015, 06:28:23 am
Keep going :). One day we will look back and this phase won't seem so long.  I know it was awful with DD but I have no permanent scars ;) xx
So true... the year that Claire was teething her 2yr molars (from 2-2.5yrs) and I was pregnant with G, we basically never made up for daylight savings time ending. She woke between 5:30 and 6am for the majority of 6mo and I can 'almost' chuckle about it now. (The 'almost' is because I'm currently reliving it with Charlie, her twin born 5.5yrs later :P, except we're in daylight savings time! ::) ;))

Sorry, I'm so slow to get to this. I agree with all Katherine has advised. There was mention of W2S and that I've done it, which is true but only for naps. I will tell you if there's teeth (which I don't think) or heavy OT (possible) involved, I don't know that it works so well, as even though it may be a habitual 10/10.5hr, it's hard to overcome those wakeful hormones. In the past few weeks, there have been a couple times Charlie has woken at both 4/4:30 and then been up for the day at 5/5:30. ::) I was thinking about trying W2S at one point too, but decided against it after those instances. :P So, just my two cents... it may be totally different in your case and worth it. :-\
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Re: It's all gone to hell in a handcart
« Reply #33 on: April 29, 2015, 12:07:11 pm »
Thanks Katie :-* Wish you could get some sleep too :-\ Don't know how things will be when this girl starts teething. Yikes!
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Re: It's all gone to hell in a handcart
« Reply #34 on: April 29, 2015, 12:54:36 pm »
She has no teeth yet Fleur:)?
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Re: It's all gone to hell in a handcart
« Reply #35 on: April 29, 2015, 13:02:29 pm »
Nope:p Hey, Marta, I wanted to ask..I remember reading once that you said F would do a long nap in nursery and then 10-15 minutes in car? When did you start with that routine? And how soon was BT after that?
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Re: It's all gone to hell in a handcart
« Reply #36 on: April 29, 2015, 13:12:30 pm »
I think we started on the routine of long/short in Mis-October so F was 8mo. First weeks with 45min second nap, than from 8,5 till 11mo it was 20-30min and if shorter he was OT. 11-12mo I stopped capping the first nap at 1.5h. He would do a catnap here and there from that moment on. But I just accepted. Some days he refused and was fine, some days he took really long first nap and still needed a catnap so:
pre7am wakeup
11:45/12:00 nap
4pm nap for 10-20min. Wake by 4:45 the latest.
7pm BT (no refusals at all).
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Re: It's all gone to hell in a handcart
« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2015, 14:30:26 pm »
Quote from: Martii85 on April 29, 2015, 13:12:30 pm
7pm BT (no refusals at all).
Are you sure he's spirited? Such an angel:) Thanks for sharing
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Re: It's all gone to hell in a handcart
« Reply #38 on: April 29, 2015, 17:38:06 pm »
Haha these was the best routine we ever achieve! But still I had NW from 8,5mo till 10m(on and off) and from 11mo until now quite often like a week with NW and a week without. And this is mainly teething or illness. And some OT cumulated after 2:1 around 12-13mo.
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Re: It's all gone to hell in a handcart
« Reply #39 on: May 01, 2015, 15:00:33 pm »
Oh, I'm so worried about the big bad teeth showing up. Lol.

Okay, ladies, things are much much better but I need your insights yet again, please. These are the last 3 days
29/4
WU - 7 (woohoo!)
Nap 1 - 11.40 - 1.50 (meant to wake her at 1.30 but chickened out)
CN - 6.10-6.20 (I woke her. Would not sleep sooner)
Bed - 7.40 (needed a tiny bit of help)

30/4
WU - 6.30 :-\
Nap 1 - 11.10- 1.30
CN - Refused. Closed her eyes for 5 minutes and that's it.
Bed - 7 (SS)
WU crying at 9 - drained a bottle and slept

1/5
WU - 7
Nap 1 - 11.55- 2
Bed - 6.30 (Was falling asleep while nursing from 6.10 onwards. On PD stayed quiet and seemed asleep for a while. Then she started crying and standing. I settled her and she seemed to be falling asleep but then started playing instead. It was as if she took a power nap and was refreshed once more.   
Sleep - 8 :'( :'(

 ^^ This is what has me confounded. She seems to be fine with a long A broken by a 10-15 minute nap. Yesterday a 5 minute nap and she made it to bed. But today? Should I have PD later? Should I just have stuck to a 7pm BT after a nap ending at 2? This is the first time ever that I think she was UT but it seems so unlikely :-\ I don't know how else to explain it since she wasn't crying and seemed happy.

Is it that A times go out the window around this time? Is it possible for babies who previously couldn't handle long As to bed to suddenly need them? Because today seemed so much like the days I described when I started this thread (except for the crying) and I am really wondering what's happening
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Re: It's all gone to hell in a handcart
« Reply #40 on: May 01, 2015, 15:08:01 pm »
Just jumping in ... my experience with DS is that set WU, nap and BT worked best at this age. That is what we are doing with DD. BTW if she took a CN at 6:10 the other day then her body might feel that EBT is a CN kwim? So I would stick with the 7 pm bedtime even if she wakes at 2 pm.
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Re: It's all gone to hell in a handcart
« Reply #41 on: May 01, 2015, 15:19:43 pm »
That's what I was also thinking, Suzanna. It was so absurd today. I am having such trouble getting a CN out of her and then she goes and treats BT like a CN for the first time ever! Okay, I'm just going to stick to 7-7 day and cross my fingers, toes & eyes! :-*
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Re: It's all gone to hell in a handcart
« Reply #42 on: May 01, 2015, 16:18:47 pm »
Good luck  ;)
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Re: It's all gone to hell in a handcart
« Reply #43 on: May 01, 2015, 16:39:12 pm »
Good luck from me too :)
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Re: It's all gone to hell in a handcart
« Reply #44 on: May 01, 2015, 18:34:09 pm »
Quote from: newkidontheblock on May 01, 2015, 15:19:43 pm
Okay, I'm just going to stick to 7-7 day and cross my fingers, toes & eyes! :-*
LOL, hope you don't get stuck! ;) :-*

FWIW, this has happened with Charlie a lot in the last month and I think sometimes it's down to him almost falling asleep while nursing (sometimes it's when I haven't medicated for teeth too). As he's never been a great napper, he's often fallen asleep feeding at BT, but I've really tried to watch it lately as it seems to cause more issues than not. So, if he dozes too much or falls asleep but wakes as I put him down, then he can have a really hard time settling.

So glad you're getting better wake-ups! :)
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