25 month old sleeping advice

[Mum2lucy]

Hi guys,

Always had good advice in the past so I'm looking for advice or reassurance.

My 25 month old won't stick to a routine just now at all. She is all over the place with wake up and bedtime. I've worked out over the two years that she is ok with a set ish bedtime between 6.30-8.00 depending on her naps.

For weeks there we were having 7.30am / 8am wake ups and about 14 hours average day sleep but this is def not the norm. I just figured that she was having a growth spurt or something.

Now I am however getting 5.30am wake ups and minimal naps. I usually have to apop the nap. She has a set nap of 1.00pm.. She has moved up into the 2-3 room at nursery in he last month and she isn't finding it easy to nap in the new room so we have been having some no nap days. Here are some examples:

Today:
Wu: 5.40
S: 13.06-14.21
Bt: 7, asleep 7.15

yesterday:
Wu: 5.50
S: 1-2
Bt: 6.30 asleep 7.55

Wu: 7
s: 12.50-13.55
Bt: 7, asleep 7.35 (cried at bedtime)

Wu: 7
No nap
Bt: 17.55 asleep instantly, short nw at 7pm then fine until 7am)

I don't really know what I should aim for with her anymore as the 5.35 wales up are throwing me. I still push for the 1pm set nap but it's making the day long.

Feel like everything is all off! xx

[Haribo2012]

Hi there how does she cope if the nap is short or non existent?

My DS1 at that age resisted the nap and I had to sooo with a buggy walk or drive around 2pm to get 45 mins in.

Has she got her 2 yr molars?x

[Mum2lucy]

She's ok in herself with a short nap but can then do nw. Sometimes she is ok but with 40mins I usually still have to do ebt.
No nap and by dinner time she is a wreck. Usually a couple of nw but does have a long sleep to make up for the nap.

She is getting a molar just now but I do medicate as much as possible. She has two in, one coming in.

She doesn't really show tired signs (until way OT) so the routine being off is really hard for me as it is total guessing games.

Yesterday she just wouldn't go to sleep. I tried the cot, a walk and the car. She eventually fell asleep at 14.40 so her day was

Wu: 6.20
S: 14.40-15.20
Bt: 7.30, asleep 8, short nw at 10pm

Wu: 7am this morning

Xx

[Haribo2012]

Could just be developmental with her birthday just passing. Not a bad night then considering short day nap, it might be she is getting ready to nap drop but sometimes the nap does come back again after a regression.
I'd keep trying and if all else fails get a CN I'm about 2.30/3pm x

[Mum2lucy]

Thanks for the reply.

Think my issue comes with a catnap of 20mins or so is that I don't know when to put her down.

Yesterday we managed a nap, albeit away from her set 1pm, as she looked shattered (I could tell for once) so she went down for 12.30pm

Wu: 7pm
S: 12.30-2pm
Bt: 7.10, asleep 7.45

Took her a while to get to sleep but it was a bit more of a normal day.
She's at nursery tues, wed and thurs so we will be off routine again as she is struggling with sleeping in the new room
X

[Haribo2012]

Hopefully after a few days her sleep will adjust in the new room and she might get back on track, is the new room too noisy or do others not nap?

On those no nap days I'd definitely do EBT it will help combat OT. I used to find I could get a CN about 2.30/3pm if I coincided it with a walk/drivevto the shop.

The 1-0 nap translation can take a long time time so 20 min CN are quite good at preventing OT at this age if she won't do a proper nap anymore. Also if she is nap dropping some do no naps for a couple of days then a nap day.

Might just be a blip though with all new things going on for her x

[Mum2lucy]

She's been in the new room a month. Think it's a combination of too noisy and half of them don't nap anymore.

Today she slept an hour at nursery but she is screaming going to bed tonight. Don't know why?
Wu:7
S: 1.30-2.30
Bt 7.15, crying!! Hasn't settled yet and it's 7.30pm - doing some walk in walk out

Def think it's the beginning of the 1-0. Do lots of kids drop the nap even though they aren't really ready to? my lg is certainly much better with a nap than without!

My husband is away just now on work for over 2 weeks so it's been a long two weeks of off naps/ sleeps 

[Haribo2012]

My eldest definitely started to drop his nap at this age but by refusing to go to bed, I had to walk all the time lol as he still needed to, we were nap free by about 30 months.

[Mum2lucy]

Ha I think she is wise to me trying to walk her as she just sings and shouts when I try recently.

Crying again tonight.

Do you think it could be UT on the following:
Wu: 7.10
S: 12.45 - 14.05 (nursery nap)
Bt: 7.05 crying
Xx

[Haribo2012]

I'd think UT with a long nap, I'd prob aim for 13 hour day with decent nap x

[Mum2lucy]

Hey,

Today was
Wu: 7.45
S: 1.30-2
Bt: 7.15

She is going crazy and won't even lie down. When would you have done bt on that day? x

[Haribo2012]

Is a 30 min nap normal now?

[Mum2lucy]

In the past few weeks it's been about an hour to an hour 15mins. Just trying to go with the flow?
Tonight was the first time In a few weeks she was really off. Probably just a blip but I wondered if I had totally missed bedtime and should have gone to bed earlier. I was trying to stay in a 12 hour day x

[Haribo2012]

Possibly just missed the sweet spot if she is used to a longer nap. x

[Conniesmummy]

I'm sorry I have no real answers for you but just want you to know you're not alone. My little girl is doing the exact same at the moment including the recent mega sleeps and naps. We're back to resisting bedtimes, goes down for 7 but not going to sleep til after 8!! She averages an hour long nap but mostly 45 mins. Yesterday at my mums she slept for an hour and a half which I thought was the reason for last nights after 8 bedtime, but today she slept for only an hour and did the exact same. I've also ditched the grobag so I'm hoping that's part of the issue and she will settle again. Who knows, these toddlers are baffling. Take care and try to stay sane. My hubby also works away and it's so emotionally draining when things are all over the place and you're on your own 😔