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Re: Anyone want to talk about the 2-1 transition? Thread #24
« Reply #435 on: April 20, 2013, 11:34:50 am »
Just to mention WIWO is only really for LOs who have been independent sleepers in the past ;). Gradual withdrawal is probably better if your LO hasn't fallen asleep on her own before.  You can keep interaction to a minimum if your efforts to calm her seem to be winding her up more instead - just hold her hand and say a quiet, soothing sleep phrase every now and again. 

Skadiver - sounds good to me :)

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Re: Anyone want to talk about the 2-1 transition? Thread #24
« Reply #436 on: April 20, 2013, 12:25:23 pm »
Oh gosh sorry about that, i missed that she hadnt been before. My fault. Just stick with what you know works (gradual withdrawl) and you can do it. :) have faith in yourself.
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Re: Anyone want to talk about the 2-1 transition? Thread #24
« Reply #437 on: April 20, 2013, 13:11:44 pm »
Oh gosh sorry about that, i missed that she hadnt been before. My fault.
No fault at all, I wasn't sure myself if she'd been an independent sleeper in the past or not :)  Here's the link for anyone else reading along and interested: Walk In/Walk Out vs. The Gradual Withdrawal Method (HOW TO CHOOSE)

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Re: Anyone want to talk about the 2-1 transition? Thread #24
« Reply #438 on: April 20, 2013, 13:28:11 pm »
Ladies thank you very much for your support I appreciate it very much!  :). She has never been independent sleeper and I even tried it - but when I went out from the room - God that make things even worse. But I will read it again.

I feel better today because there is no cry ("just" that one). It takes her approx. 50 min. so our A time is far away from aimed (completely messed EASY - I am afraid how that will influence our nights)but I really decided to do that because of both of us. She is standing in the crib, touching my leg (I lay next to the crib on our bed) trying to touch my face  :'( but just fussing from time to time and at the end when she is very tired I am starting to lay her down and still jiggling with hand (she is starting to move hands and legs) -at the end and finally she fell asleep. I hope that with the time it will take shorter - but I am very happy she does not cry uffff.

Skadiver I am on this forum from December just switching boards  ;D first general sleep issues - jess mum helped me a lot (thank you once more  :)) and she was constantly saying independent sleeping independent sleeping  ;D. I solved bunch of things, then switched on NW board - solved 5 months long NW  after almost two months of adjusting EASY and I am still there - again NW but different type and EW  ::). Bec is dealing with me (poor thing  ;D) and my spirited lady. Sometimes (actually more often  ;D) I am asking myself who will raise that kid  ;D already now it is hard to drag her attention when she decides something...


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Re: Anyone want to talk about the 2-1 transition? Thread #24
« Reply #439 on: April 20, 2013, 13:44:26 pm »
I have read - definitely she is gradual withdrawal baby  ;D. Now I have question - what to do when she wakes in the night and cry? I need to pick her up, actually last night, then I walked with her, she burped and then I returned her in bed and she fell asleep but what if she is crying and can not? Or for example she wake up after 30 or 45 min of napping?

Another thing - I can not know that she is completely tired. I did know that in the past only before am nap and I would just put down and she would sleep within max 5 minutes. Now I do not know even for that (only when we are late running home from somewhere - what is rarely) then it could work like that

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Re: Anyone want to talk about the 2-1 transition? Thread #24
« Reply #440 on: April 20, 2013, 13:49:38 pm »
Hi Tweetie, at this age there really are no sleep cues. My LO will go go go and wham crash. I am not sure how old your lo is? But usually around 6-8 months those cues go away, unless they are sick etc. You'll need to experiment with A times etc. Can you post your EASY as it normally would be? It's ok to comfort in the middle of the night if they are in discomfort ie. gas, teething etc. the key is to return htem back to the bed once that discomfort is gone and not get used to picking them up and rocking them back to sleep. (we're all guilty of it :) ).  Have you ever used PUPD? or I guess it would be just PD at this age?
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Re: Anyone want to talk about the 2-1 transition? Thread #24
« Reply #441 on: April 20, 2013, 14:24:43 pm »
Thank you Skadiver  :). In the past PU/PD drove her crazy and yesterday even more  ::).
I know what you are talking about when it comes to sleeping cues. You will laugh but difference between your DS and my DD is only 9 days - she is younger  ;D. Her EASY looks each day different depending on how much did she nap - they have never been consistent. In short first A is 4 hr sometimes 4.10 hr (I started to think to extend t 4.15 hr), second A time around 3 hr (when I cut am nap it was 2.5 hr, now when I do not cut it is more likely 3.15 hr) last A time around 3 hr (again depends on the nap - when I cut it after 30 min then sometimes I could put her after 2.5 hr but most likely 3 hr). Day is 13 hr - when I cut am nap it was 12 hr or maximum 12.5 hr and she slept almost 11 hr, now again back to 9-10 hr

Today is mess because of sleep training: WU 5.30 am, A 4.45 hr  :o, S 1.20 hr, A 3.30 hr, now she sleeps 1.20 hr and I plan to wake her up and put he in bed earlier (I doubt she will be willing to sleep before her 3 hr) we will see

She just woke up, need to go

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Re: Anyone want to talk about the 2-1 transition? Thread #24
« Reply #442 on: April 20, 2013, 14:37:30 pm »