Anyone want to talk about the 3-2 Nap transition?

[natpat]

  Is your LO on formula?  I can never be confident that mine is n't hungry when she wakes up at night...she's BF, so even though she's waking through habit (same time every night) I feed her.  Apparently the 2am feed is a hard one to break...I'm always worried that if I don't feed her then, that she'll wake up at 5 ravenous.
  She probably will wake up at 5 as I had to put her down at 6:30 tonight.  So many details is right...all I do is count hours...hours she's been up, hours she's been down, what happens if she maybe sleeps this many hours...right now I'm guessing tomorrow will be a three short naps day because she'll be up bright and early tomorrow!

[amyonkman]

yes he is on formula.  last night BT was so bad again!!  cried and carried on for almost an hour an a half..so he didn't go to sleep til almost nine, then he was up at about quarter after three..ugh.  so i fed him, and this time he did go back down pretty easy by 4, but was up at six thirty.  i am so desperate t figure out what happened to our BT, we never had problems before.  i am so nervous every night when i lay him down, because it keeps going so horribly.  so he's not even getting a solid nine hours at night.  he has a twenty miin CN an was up by 6:10..and i put him in bed at 7:30.  he was up earlier today so his naps will be earlier and his CN should be earlier so maybe i'll try going back to a 30 min CN to see if it helps....

[amyonkman]

ok..yesterday i put him down for his CN and he just played the whole time. so from 5:30-6...once we hit 6 and he was still up, that was three hours A time! so i didn;t really know what to do in thar situation.  so i quick got him dressed for bed and gave him  a bottle and rocked him to sleep.  he was asleep by 6:40...up at midnight, ate, went down again til 5:30. it's almost 7 now and im just feeding him.  tried to get him to relax and lay by me for awhile.  i think he kind of dozed.  how do you handle A time after that, and feeding times, if i didn't hold him off.  move everything up a couple hours?

[*Kara*]

You did the right thing hun... when they refuse the CN all together for a week, you make the push to get rid of it... I wouldn't just yet, it may have been a one-off.  Try again today and see if he refuses again.

[FPT23]

Hi!

I may be now facing the 3-2 nap transition. I need help!

He normally wakes frm 2nd nap around, 3-4pm. I would normally try to cn if he woke closer to the 3pm mark, and try one at 5pm or so, BUT, he fights it or refuses it n just plays n sits so it's pointless. Also tks long so I'm like, eh, by the time he FALLS asleep......it pushes hs bt laaaaater. And by the time he actually FALLs asleep its like 8-9pm. Too late for him and he ew's n not gets the hrs he needs in his nights.

He still needs the cn. But it's getting hard. But the push to bt is getting him ot or a struggle bc of ot....this runs hs bt up also.

Help

[*Kara*]

Hey hun!  It's not that bad to drop the CN   Promise!

What is his current day like with wake time, naps and BT?

[FPT23]

I put up a post w his EASY

Is tht ok? Or do we continue here

[*Kara*]

I can do either place

[FPT23]

Lol! Ur funny, I love you Kara haha! we can do it here since maybe my situation can help others who come here maybe?

I can do either as well. Haha

[*Kara*]

we can do it here since maybe my situation can help others who come here maybe?

Good point!

So my advice is the same as what I posted on your thread   Push his A time whether he likes it or not

[FPT23]

Well, I pushed him a little farther than I should've bc I figured he can handle long A times later, maybe push him but, a little less. Yes long nap after tht push. Bit of a struggle butit wrkd w a long 2hr nap. Btw yst after his first nap I went to the park w friends and I went past his 2nd nap window then had errands so he had cn's here n there. I got home n he didn't want to sleep but, I pd for bt and he didn't do half bad. Just ew but he went poo
But still seemed awake. Tried for an hr to pd but I just got him up. But I was expecting nw's etc...not bad. So hes prob needing 2 naps more A time


Well, I don't know if it's ot why hes waking though? Ths is new and he's been ot several times n nvr did this? He wakes 2-4hrs right after I pd for bt. Driving me insane. Bc he's not hungry or I gave him med for teething. He's just mad! And to soothe.....ahhhhhh forget it. Tks HOURS. Agh. But AFTER he eventually falls asleep, he stays asleep until "morning" (minus ew days or the NW days bc of ot) ...so I am going to go insane.

Please help? Waking 2-4hrs right after bt!? It's driving me bonkers bc he's so mad and nothing helps. I feed eventually evn tho he just ate 2-3hrs prior but Thts the only thing tht will calm him dwn. But he's not hungry like tht. He just calms dwn w it. Won't sleep at the bottle.

[*Kara*]

It could be a pain thing with teeth, could be an OT thing with the longer A times, could be nothing really but a phase as he adjusts to 2 naps...

I would just do what you have to do to get him back to sleep as quickly as possible... you have left him until he escalates to see if he will go back to sleep on his own, right?

And yes, he is ready for 2 naps   Sometimes they just need a bit of convincing

[FPT23]

Haha, yes he s ready but tht waking after bt, bugs me. He used to sleep 8-9hr stretches.

Well he ew at 5:30
Would not settle! He was just up but crying :-/

It's bc I swear the older he gets the harder he screams n fights ALL soothing. I kid u nt. mks me sad even

What do you mean until he escalates? He escalates IMMEDIATELY. no lie, no exaggeration. You have to hear n see to believe. It's new....attitude is showing more I guess

Think it is ot. If he wakes at 5am again n won't sleep, how can I go about naps n lengthening his A time if it changes it all. Today I let him be until 6:30 or so bc I didn't want him used to being up, he clearly didn't want it but he gets up in his crib now ...woke him right up.

I'll keep pushing the first A time. He's handling it ok actually. It's settling him fr bt and naps Thts getting harsh. Ot

[ZacsMumme]

You could try a slightly (like 15 mins) earlier BT to combat that EW if you can, the longer A in the am and between naps may leave him a bit OT in the pm. some LOs tack on, some don't. But may be worth a try

[FPT23]

Ty for a reponse!

Honestly, he is very ot so he may be in tht cycle.

But his A times are so off n I'm lost bc of all Thts happened this mth.

If I pd 10-15 mins later, he fights the nap/bt. If I pd earlier, same thing. And he stays up HOURS. persistent. Or scream his lungs out. Very strong temperament.

He then becomes near impossible to soothe. As far as increasing his first A time....Thts hard when most days he's ew and ot or he wakes at 5 one day, then 6-7. I don't want to push him to what he can't handle then he's a mess