Anyone want to talk about the 3-2 Nap transition?

[caoimhe mum]

oh i know your pain FPT23.  i'm just on wondering if anyone can give me a quick answer as to what to do re-bed time.  so we had a good night last night only two wakings.  we got up for the day at 7.15, had her first nap at 10.05am and i woke her at 12.20 as i didn't want her to over sleep.  this was a big deal for me this is only the second time in her life that we got longer than 1.40 mins sleep.   so i figure with such a good nap she can surely make a 3hr A time.  low and behold she is struggling a bit even before 2hr45min mark so i compromise and but her down at the 2hr 53 min mark.  we did low key activity for the last hour and gues what she is up 30mins later.  now i don't know what time to put her to bed.  her bed time should be around 7.30pm but that would make it around 3hr30mins A time after a really overtired nap of 30mins.  i was thinking maybe around 6pm bedtime due to the bad nap and then she wouldn't be overtired for bed but that is still an hour from her bed time.  any advice please ASAP

[caoimhe mum]

sorry i should say the only reason why i'm questioning an early bed time is because thats the most day time sleep we have gotten besides one day at around 4months.  she has had around 2hr 50 day time sleep 

[oliversmommy]

What about splitting the difference and going with a BT of 6:45-7:00???  Do you think she could handle that amount of A time if you kept the end of the day quiet/low stimulating?

[FPT23]

C mum,
Well thts a good thing a long a.m nap! Better than me

Generally any bt between 6-7:30 I think is ideal. I'd go off of the nxt nap and the AT leading after it between tht and bt.

Thts wat I do and it's been well. I've noticed tht no matter wat by he still wakes at 6 now a days so I have actually gotten more sleep out of him frm an ebt

I've always had long naps since prb 5mths and he rarely short naps me, it's rare like today. So I'm a bit lost now Bc I may have to do a third nap again errrrrrr

[caoimhe mum]

hi fpt23

there is no next naps its bedtime it was our first day to try two naps.  it all looked so promising this morning.  but she loves to keep me on my toes.  well at least i have nothing to compare to, its probably worse for you cause you had all them good naps before.  you don't miss want you never had.  but i would love to get a hold of the naps.  she was doing ok at night when i mean ok she woke 2/3 times but went back to sleep but now its awake chatting, at first i thought how cute but her cot is beside my bed and the chats were getting longer and longer.  i can't go all day and night so something has to change. 

[FPT23]

C mum: how old is ur bby?

Well I've noticed tht the secret to our good naps was figuring out a good AT.
Basically if you have short naps, the nxt AT is shortened. If its been all bad naps an ebt wrks. He was a horrible napper but this site will help u!

When ur bby wakes frm naps, is ur bby happy or crying?

[FPT23]

C mum: I'm sorry things r so bad. I've been in tht frustration state.

Hang in there and maaany hugs ur way! You'll get answers n help here!

[*Kara*]

Hey ladies...

With regards to a short PM nap, it is common when you first push those A times... don't be too discouraged... stick with it and give LO a few days to adjust... if you can, AP a bit more of a nap in your arms/carrier etc to get closer to your usual BT.  If this doesn't work (LO is resistant for whatever reason), use an EBT but do be careful - you don't want to be getting up super crazy early either!  It's not reasonable to expect more than 11-12 hours of night sleep (some kids will do less - I was super lucky to get 11 at this age).  I would do what was suggested and push the last A time, but keep it low key and try to split the difference between typical A time and typical bedtime...

[FPT23]

I'm having to do another pm nap today.

Jr had a short a.m nap, so his 2nd nap ended at 2...

No way will he do a 4hr AT! Lol. More actually.

Of course he's resisting this last nap. Err

[FPT23]

Well I had no success w a short cn in the evening so he's going to have to do a long AT....

Woke at 2:00 frm his nap.....I'm gna pd at 6:00 for his bt.

By the time he falls asleep .....oooooo.

I feel a bad night and ew coming my way n prb more short naps

[*Kara*]

Fingers crossed!

[caoimhe mum]

FPT23 hope your night was ok, mine lo had three waking, fed her the three times, but she is having her chats before and after.  that wears me down big time because your not meant to go to them till they call out for you.  i could be lying there for an hour sometimes. 

my lo is 6months on saturday.  is this a crazy Atime for her age?  she was two weeks early and tiny(5lb)(not sure if that makes any difference)

[FPT23]

Well ladies my night was the same, 1 feed. Wu at 5:45 but had an ebt of 6 so actually, he had a great night

I still pd for a nap at the same time. He had a long a.m nap

C mum-
What is your bbys AT right now? 2hr 45 you said? I'm so sry your having a rough time. How about teeth? Jr got his first 2 bottom teeth, learned to get up in his crib and crawl lol....the 6th mth was uhm.... Fun irt to sleep.

[FPT23]

Short 2nd nap....

I am fruuuuuuuustrated.

He's going to refuse another nap. Which is wats driving me insane.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh.

Guess it'll be a longer stretch today....frm 1:45-6:00 bt.

Bummer.

[Buttonbobs]

Hope it's ok to join in, I've been reading along for a few days and am wondering if my LO is ready to drop the CN. DD is 6 months old & has never been one for long naps. We've always been very happy on 45 minute naps & then she sleeps really well at night. Approx 7 - 6.30/7 with a DF at 22.30ish. In the last week or so DD has started taking longer morning naps which is great as I finally have been getting that 1.5/2 hour nap with time for me! Sometimes she will do the same for her early afternoon nap although this is more unusual as we are often out over lunchtime. Her A time is currently 2.5 hours and sometimes a little longer if we are out as she is very easily distracted and loves to watch everything going on. Yesterday she refused her CN completely & her last A time was 4.5 hours & we had lots of OT wakings in the early part of the night before her DF. Thankfully she slept through to 6.50am so caught up on some of it. Today she has gone down, just, for a CN buy at 5.10pm this is quite close to BT & she would normally be having dinner now. I plan to cap the CN for 20 mins & then keep to BT at 7 if we can. Should I keep going as I am or do you think she might be ready for longer A times. She a big baby at 18lbs 9 & sits completely independently, but doesn't move/roll or anything. I also think she had a growth spurt last week. Hugs to everyone who's going through this at the moment, it seems tough for you all :-) xx