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10mo eats little during day more during nights
« on: May 10, 2017, 09:46:25 am »
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the problem: till about 8 months i did NF then cancelled it, but LO got used to this feed and started WU at that time.
also she began then WU two times more at night. and always ready to eat full portion (BF). and then during the day it's impossible to make her eat solids... for a couple of weeks i try to gradually wean BF but had'n been very consistent with it so the problem has gone worse...

her routine now looks something like this:
7-30 - WU and sometimes BF
8-9 breakfast solids
10-30|12 - nap
12 - dinner solids
15-30|16-30 - nap
17 - supper solids
BF somewhere here
19|19-30 - BF
20 - BT
23 - NW
2 - NW
5|6 - NW

I understand that she doesn't get enough food during the day so she definitely needs one NF. i try to set her to sleep during 23 and 2 NW and BF at 5-6, so once at night.

i want her to sleep the whole night with maximum one feed.

so:
1. which of three NW is better to BF her for a while?
2. what should be my next steps to stop NF?

thank you very much in advance!

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Re: 10mo eats little during day more during nights
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2017, 10:08:38 am »
Is she not having any BF between 7.30am and 5pm? If not then I'd add in a couple of breastfeeds between those times.  Breastmilk should form the majority of her nutrition until 12mo. If you have decided to wean BFs earlier than this for any reason then she needs formula instead. A baby this young cannot get the nutrition she needs from solid food as they just can't eat enough of it. This is probably why she is making up for it at night. I wouldn't recommend actively weaning any NFs until you have shifted the feeds to the daytime. Babies need to eat little and often at this age. Mine were all on 3 solid meals and 4-5 BFs plus a NF at 10mo. Some babies might prefer solids and be able to replace a daytime feed with an extra solids snack or two but I'd consider 10mo really early to drop to 3 BFs. Most EBF LOs will still wake for NFs until 1yo+

The WHO recommend BFing on demand at this age.
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Re: 10mo eats little during day more during nights
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2017, 13:17:59 pm »
Is she not having any BF between 7.30am and 5pm? If not then I'd add in a couple of breastfeeds between those times.

so during the day she should have 4 BFs?

and what about night? at what time from those three (23, 2, 6) is it better to feed her?

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The WHO recommend BFing on demand at this age.

she doesn't demand during the day:) very rarely.

and also... it seems that she will eat almost every 2 hr. and also before naps. how does it correspond with 4hr periods and eating after sleeps according to TH?





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Re: 10mo eats little during day more during nights
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2017, 15:40:48 pm »
I'd definitely offer at least 4 times during the day, more even since she seems to be hungry at night still. When we say on demand that doesn't mean wait til she asks but offer and give her the chance to accept. Each time she is hungry you could offer a BF rather than going straight to solid food.

Yes typically on easy the breastfeeds would be offered each time she wakes, so for you that would be 7.30, 12, 4.30 and 7.30. The 4hr EASY you are thinking of is for a 4mo baby who is awake for 2hrs and sleeping for 2hrs. Although most EBF babies won't make it so long between feeds until a little older because breastmilk is so easily digested and they need more frequent feeds than their FF counterparts. As they get older and  solids come into the equation the timings won't be 4hrly because longer A times will mean they are asleep at the 4hr point. That's ok though because solids will help fill them up in between. I'll link some example routines typical for a 10-12mo to help you see what most of us do.

I think until you shift her feeds to the daytime you need to feed her all three times unless you think she will resettle quickly (5 minutes or less) without a feed.

Tbh breastfeeding research has moved on significantly since the BW books were written and we like to think Tracy would have upate her advice for BF babies had she still been around to do so.
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Re: 10mo eats little during day more during nights
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2017, 17:31:55 pm »
I'd definitely offer at least 4 times during the day, more even since she seems to be hungry at night still. When we say on demand that doesn't mean wait til she asks but offer and give her the chance to accept. Each time she is hungry you could offer a BF rather than going straight to solid food.

Yes typically on easy the breastfeeds would be offered each time she wakes, so for you that would be 7.30, 12, 4.30 and 7.30.


yes, i've returned 4 bfs at the times you suggested. will see how it works.

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I think until you shift her feeds to the daytime you need to feed her all three times unless you think she will resettle quickly (5 minutes or less) without a feed.

yes, she can resettle pretty quickly without a feed or with some water during first two WUs. but maybe i should feed her at 2 a.m. rather than at 6? but i'm worried that she won't go to sleep again at 6 if i don't feed her...

and how do i shift her feeds to the daytime?

would much appreciate the links about routine examples. thanks!

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Re: 10mo eats little during day more during nights
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2017, 07:35:08 am »
fed her 4 times bf and 3 times solids... woke up 5 times at night!  :o

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Re: 10mo eats little during day more during nights
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2017, 10:59:29 am »
Here's the routine link https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=68458.0

The extra feeds in the day won't necessarily make a difference after 1 day so I'd just keep offering the 4 feeds.

If she resettles at night easily then I'd maybe feed at 23 and 06 for now. She might start sleeping longer soon.
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Re: 10mo eats little during day more during nights
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2017, 19:55:59 pm »
thanks!
yes, i understand, that one night is not a sign.

but how can i make her eat more during the day?

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Re: 10mo eats little during day more during nights
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2017, 20:53:05 pm »
You can't make her eat more. You can only offer more. If she's taking it then your supply should match the new demand after a couple of days.
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Re: 10mo eats little during day more during nights
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2017, 06:10:28 am »
no, i mean solids:)
or she should eat more by herself soon as she gets 11mo and more?

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Re: 10mo eats little during day more during nights
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2017, 07:48:17 am »
Same really.  You can just offer and let her eat what she wants. Sitting down to eat as a family, or at least you and LO, as much as possible so she can see you enjoying different foods can help.
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Re: 10mo eats little during day more during nights
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2017, 19:08:43 pm »
thanks a lot for you help!

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Re: 10mo eats little during day more during nights
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2017, 07:12:48 am »
now she wakes to eat only once at night - at 6 a.m., eats not much and sleeps till ~7-30... and then she doesn't want first bf after waking...
maybe it's time to cut the feed at 6 and feed after waking? but how?

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Re: 10mo eats little during day more during nights
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2017, 20:34:54 pm »
Personally since she only just dropped the other feeds I'd leave this one for a bit. I expect if you try to cut it out you will just find she is up for the day from then.

If she will settle quickly without a feed at 6am then go for it and just tell her it's still sleepy time and soothe her back to sleep as you do for NWs. I wouldn't try to resettle for too long though if he protests.
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Re: 10mo eats little during day more during nights
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2017, 20:55:29 pm »
Personally since she only just dropped the other feeds I'd leave this one for a bit.


yes, i'll definitely wait a little to be sure she really doesn't eat much...

and also i think to try not to bf her after waking as she doesn't want to eat and give only breakfast in an hour after WU... will see how it works.