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Re: Milk/Soy Protein Intolerance (MSPI)
« Reply #105 on: April 05, 2006, 01:03:24 am »
Thanks mommytoabigail, I'll be going to Zehrs to try this.

I've had to eliminate my Starbucks decaf due to kicking out the milk, haven't tried rice milk, what does it taste like? Anyone find a substitute for cheese? I'm lucky w/ the butter- never was a fan, always prefered to dunk my bread in olive oil and balsamic.
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« Reply #106 on: April 05, 2006, 16:16:20 pm »
Rice milk tastes like the water that you cook your rice in.  Not great, but you get used to it.  The vanilla or chocolate flavors are better.   I like Rice Dream the best.  No substitute for cheese.  I was so desperate that I tried mashed potatoes in my lasagna instead of cheese.  Ick!
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Re: Milk/Soy Protein Intolerance (MSPI)
« Reply #107 on: April 05, 2006, 20:11:24 pm »
mommytoabigail~ Our ped. told me to try adding some dairy to my diet every few months (we tried at 9 months, 12 months, and then again around 14 months).  Then, when she was ok with it in my diet (I think I started with yogurt and cheese since that is stuff that is supposed to be easier on them anyway), we tried it in her diet.  It was pretty clear when she was ok since before that, she would break out in a rash on her chin within the day.

I did nurse until she outgrew it, but started weaning her onto rice milk a little before that so that she would be used to something else.  She wasn't too fond of cow's milk when I first tried that so we would then mix it when rice milk (which we actually still do because her poops get really stinky otherwise--but dr. said that isn't an allergy issue--more likely an inability to completely digest the milk proteins--lots of kids have that).

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Re: Milk/Soy Protein Intolerance (MSPI)
« Reply #108 on: April 08, 2006, 12:08:50 pm »
Rice milk tastes like the water rice is cooked in? Ick, I don't think I'll even try it. My decaf is now black and it's not so bad :)
LOL mashed potatoes in lasagna ;D ;D ;D.

Guestion about dirty diapers...
Since birth, my dd's dirty diapers have been runny (almost soak up into the diaper), since I've kicked out all milk products her diapers are still the same and sometimes they really stink now, have any of you noticed a change in their bm's since eliminating the milk products? My dd goes about 4x a day (used to go more when she was younger and fed on 3 hours, now is on 4hr easy). Could it be my recent fascination with honey roasted peanuts and peanut butter? For that matter, do you think it's safe for me to eat peanuts in such mass quantities? We have no peanut alergies in the family.

I found a pita bread that says "may contain trace milk" that I'm now eating, dd seems fine, no blood in stool.
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Re: Milk/Soy Protein Intolerance (MSPI)
« Reply #109 on: April 08, 2006, 16:10:17 pm »
Didn't mean to turn you off of rice milk, but I found it shocking at first.  Now I drink it by the gallon.  The vanilla really is much better, but not for cooking.  Bm's didn't get more solid here until we eliminated soy protein.  (Soy oil was okay for us.)  Now ds goes once every 3 days instead of 6 times a day.  Peanuts are fine for us, too.  It's just a process of elimination.
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Re: Milk/Soy Protein Intolerance (MSPI)
« Reply #110 on: April 08, 2006, 20:26:17 pm »
I personally don't find my rice milk tastes bad at all, but I just put it in things and over cereal, I don't drink it straight. My brand is Rice Dream, I like the enriched original because it has as much calcium and vit D as cows milk.

Is your lo taking anything for reflux? (or anything besides your milk)That made my ds's diapers pretty nasty. I don't remember dd's diapers, it has been over 3 years.

I eat a lot of peanut butter too and I'm trying to make the switch from store brands to natural peanut butter without the hydrogenated oils in it. I like Trader Joes snack mixes - dried fruits with cashews or any type of nuts you like. A great way to get some extra protein, as long as you don't overdose! Whole grains will help with the protein too, oatmeal, whole wheat 7-grain bread, etc.
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Re: Milk/Soy Protein Intolerance (MSPI)
« Reply #111 on: April 08, 2006, 23:30:15 pm »
No, just b milk and also a vit D drop daily.
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Re: Milk/Soy Protein Intolerance (MSPI)
« Reply #112 on: April 08, 2006, 23:31:55 pm »
Too fast w/ the keys... got kicked off!

Any opinion on the vitamin D drops?

The natural peanut butter is great and have you tried Almond butter? It's fantastic!
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Re: Milk/Soy Protein Intolerance (MSPI)
« Reply #113 on: April 09, 2006, 02:49:01 am »
My lactation consultant told me that vit D supplements were unnecessary until the second year, and only if dc was not eating properly and/or not getting any sunshine. I think it's kinda up to you and your pediatrician, but I think that so many peds were quick to jump on the supplement bandwagon to prevent rickets. Here is an intersting article from kellymom on vitamin D:

http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/vitamins/vitamin-d.html

You can also find nutrition supplement suggestions for you if you click back a few pages.

I will try the almond butter, thanks!
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Re: Milk/Soy Protein Intolerance (MSPI)
« Reply #114 on: April 09, 2006, 04:06:26 am »
Thanks for the link, I need to really take an afternoon and read the other info on Kellymom, there is so much great information there! I have read up on bfing and weight gain for babies a little while ago and around month 2 when I had concerns about bfing, the info there put my mind to ease and gave me the confidence to continue. I think I'll cut back on the vit D now, I'm in Canada and until the recent time change days were grey and dark early but we have sun now :).
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Re: Milk/Soy Protein Intolerance (MSPI)
« Reply #115 on: April 10, 2006, 02:21:18 am »
FWIW, I've added more brand names and fast food safe foods to the first page on 'what you can eat' Hope that helps someone out there! Always read labels first, with the new reporting laws we are finding more and more hidden ingredients.
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Re: Milk/Soy Protein Intolerance (MSPI)
« Reply #116 on: April 10, 2006, 03:45:40 am »
Thanks for the update, I'm glad I reviewed the entire list again- I forgot about hummus and I love the stuff, surprised about mayonnaise- I had eliminated it (basically eliminated anything with a creamy texture) so it's good to know I can use some and can I just say I love POP TARTS ;D!

My dd had some blood in her diaper today, obviously I had something I shouldn't have though I can't think of what! It may not even be from today or yesterday because the first time it happened it took about a week of eliminating the milk products before the blood stopped. It always freaks me out when this happens (though it doesn't seem to bother dd), have you heard if permanent damage can occur to their intestines or is this something that heals itself?
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Re: Milk/Soy Protein Intolerance (MSPI)
« Reply #117 on: April 10, 2006, 20:51:37 pm »
I don't know the answer to the permanent damage question. I know that as an adult I've always had a sensitive gut and it sucks. My theory (and I'm so not a doctor) is that the sooner and more complete the abstinence from the offender, the quicker they grow out of it. But that doesn't have any backup except for how it worked with my kids. I know a mommy on these boards who has been so vigilant about her ds's diet and he is still dairy sensitive.

Just watch your flavors on the hummus that it doesn't have cheese in it. I love it too! I was so happy to see the Subway food because I am always wanting to eat out on the weekends with dh.
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Re: Milk/Soy Protein Intolerance (MSPI)
« Reply #118 on: April 10, 2006, 23:48:24 pm »
I've racked my brain to think of what I've eaten and I've eaten in for the past 2 weeks making all my food and reading all labels. I did have french toast on the weekend, made w/ eggs so I'm going to kick out eggs now. I usually hate eggs which is funny because when I was pregnant I craved eggs.
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Re: Milk/Soy Protein Intolerance (MSPI)
« Reply #119 on: April 11, 2006, 13:34:01 pm »
Thanks Kim.  I have only been using Rice Dream for cooking because I don't like the taste but the vanilla is better.  I haven't tried chocolate yet.  I haven't given it to her yet to taste.  I will wait until she is over a year.

As well as dairy/soy I couldn't have peanuts/nuts (but she didn't get reflux from peanut butter????), citrus fruits/juices and chocolate.  All of these caused her to have reflux like dairy/soy.  Recently I have tried to introduce these into my diet again and she isn't reacting to them.  I have started to drink some orange juice again, and nuts.  I haven't tried chocolate (cocoa).  I am hoping that we are on the road to "outgrowing" this now.  She will be 1 year old on May 26 so I am going to try a little bit of dairy in my diet then like you suggested Kim. 

I just wanted to let you know that there is a chocolate substitute that is natural called carob powder if you didn't know.  I just learned about it (5 months later!) and it is natural and you can make anything like brownies, cookies, cake and use it instead of cocoa.  I haven't tried it yet but I bought some.  I have read many good things about it and how it tastes.
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