Toddler Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition Continued

[Nauvoo]

It just took my LO 45 mins !!!!!! to fall asleep for the night.  I have a sneaking suspicion 1 nap is getting closer.  We did 4 hours A time before bed like usual and lately we've had days here and there where it takes 30 min unlike our usual 10-15 min.  Guess I'll have to up the A time before bed just like all the other A times.  We are so close.  Let it be slightly smooth is all I can ask for.

[*Jo*]

well we had a 5.30am wakeup this morning.......

he slept 1hr 10mins yesterday afternoon so a total of 1.5 hours for the whole day! that cant be good!

we did 20min nap this morning and hes in his bed now for his PM nap but hes playing! banging the cot rail and laughing!!!!!!!

[Tweakster]

Finn does that when OT or UT...do you think Caleb is OT now?

We only had a 1 hr PM nap too...definitely OT.

Is there something in the air for these LO's??

[*Jo*]

oh dear, its been nearly an hour and hes still screamin, weve been doing WI/WO fr him but its just not working, im sitting here in tears, im so scared hes gonna vomit, i dont know what else to do though! I havent felt like this since he was really little but i dont know what to do , i know he cant be UT, hes had 20min sleep since 6am and its not 1.40pm!

I hate this part of being a parent, i just want to take him out of his bed and comfort him, hes been screaming and crying for so long, he keeps making vomit like noises and its scaring me

[*Jo*]

well after half an hour of that he finally went to sleep, wehn i stopped doing WI/WO and my husband went in and he only had to go in twice. he then slept for antoher 1 hour 10mins. when he woke up he cried and i got him up, we opened the door and sat on the rocking chair having cuddles, to allow him time to wake up gently, next thing i know i hear snoring and hes fallen asleep on me! 10 mins after being awake!! he slept for 10mins before waking up again. hes NEVER fallen asleep on me, he just never would, beleive me there were days i tried.... i really dont want another day like today, it reminded me of those horrible early days when i was sleep training. oh for the 2-1 to be over! im too scared to go to one nap now because hes obviously overtired from the last few days

so should i stick to 20min AM nap or try one nap or go back to trying long morning nap??? what do you think?

[gavinsmum1]

Jo, just go back to the long am nap.  If you're feeling like this is not working, then try to keep pushing that am nap forward.  How late was he going down for his pm nap before and how long was it?  In the very late stages of the 2-1 with Gavin we just went for it, when both naps were short and A times were just getting longer and longer.  His first morning nap would be at 10:30 or 11:00 some mornings and would only be an hour and a half.  Then he would have a long pm until bedtime at around 6:30.  He was only 14 months when we crossed to the other side.  Maybe it's worth trying? 

[Nauvoo]

Hmmm, I'm thinking gavinsmum has a lot of good points.  I have just been wondering if I should go back to long am short pm.  Last night it took my LO forever to fall asleep and I know we need to increase the last A time but we are already having over 13 hour days.  And my LO used to be the best 12 hour night sleeper.    Maybe it's just time for me to switch to one nap.  Today I haven't a clue what time my LO woke.  We had a playgroup in which she was obviously very tired this morning but I was finally able to get her down close to 11am.  I've decided to let her sleep as long as she wants and just make it as good as it can be.  If I go with a short am then the pm naps will have to be short too just to get a 13 hour day in.

[*Jo*]

nauvoo - when was the last time you tried one nap??

Im just so scared that all we will get is either 40min naps or 1 hour 10min naps as thats all we seem to be getting. we were only getting 40 min AM and PM naps thats why i shortened the morning to 30mins, still got a 45min PM nap and so i shortened it to 20mins the last two days. he slept 11.5 hours last night so up at 6.30am which is better than the 5.30am we got yesterday.

I think I will aim for long AM nap this morning, i will try this for the next few days and if it still doesnt work then im gonna shoot for one nap

[hjrmom01]

my advice: hang on to 2 naps as long as you can!!!!  We tried one nap again, after a 11.25 hr sttn.  Woke at 7:15, down at 12..slept 1hr25 min  Then screaming OT refusal of bedtime. I just can't win. Why would I want to try 1 nap when I got a solid sttn of 11.25 hrs of sleep after a 2 nap day?!??!!?!

[*Jo*]

well we cant even get a morning nap today! Im sitting here crying as hes screaming his head off again, DH is doing WI/WO with him right now, its been 15mins, i dont understand whats happening, hes never like this

I dont know what to do anymore, usually if anything like this happens then we only need to do WI/WO once and its back to normal. his crying is breaking my heart!

[JaspersMum]

Hi ladies, I haven't been around much but have just been reading this last page.

Jo, are you sure DS is not OT by the time you try the PM nap?  What is your routine looking like?

[Flightmommy]

 Jo, just wanted to send you some hugs!! I know just how you feel...nothing here is working with Caleb either. I'm running out of ideas/options and feel soo lost!! i WANT to think that all this madness is because it's time to do the one nap, but most days, he's rubbing his eyes and tired by 10am, so how can i strech him any further to do the one nap??? And the crying is getting to me too...you're not alone!!
  To boot, we're getting crazy NW's (i've got a thread on it), he's awake for 2 hours, playing and laughing....and then just drifts off to sleep on his own..i know it sounds cute and all, but really he is sooo tired the next day and miserable and sets off our routine, making it impossible to progress with our A times and get closer to the one nap dream!!!
  The 30 min am/long pm was working for awhile and we've been getting pm nap refusal, so today i thought i'd go back to our good old long am'/short pm that both our Calebs seem to take to soooo nicely. Well, seems that option's out the window too now....had a good 1.5hr nap from 11:15-12:45 and then ABSOLUTELY no going down for the pm catnap....no matter what I did. So off we went with an early bedtime of 7pm...just over 6 hours A time. Surprisingly, he didn't wake from OT at the 1 hr mark after bedtime....what do you guys think? When they don't wake after bedtime, is it safe to say that they weren't too OT when they went down?? I'm wondering if that's a good indicator of OT???
  Anyways, every morning, I wake and don't have a clue what to do about naps....we're all over the map and it feels like we've got no structure or routine...after i've worked sooo hard all year to get this right!!
  Nauvoo06, how did your one nap day go?

[Tweakster]

Ladies are they teething?  Could their A times have just dropped dramatically because of molars and OT is creeping in?  or the Calebs are just running amuck!

For us he can fall into a deep sleep when he's had a long A at day's end but with good naps...OT manifests in EW at that 10 hour mark.  If he's OT throughout the day then we get early evening wakings and restless sleep all night.

[gavinsmum1]

We only had one nap of 30 min today.  We are totally screwed.  He went down for bed in minutes, but the day was an absolute mess.  I put Jesse down for his nap at 3.5 hours A time like we had been doing before the third tooth/ear infection/cold nightmare that just ended, but he lay in his crib with his eyes open for a while and then tried to drift off (I could even see little jolts), but he came to a point where he just didn't settle.  I waited a full 45 minutes before I went in there, brought him out, fed him lunch and then tried again.  It was another 45 minute session of some PD and some laying in his bed kicking his feet up.  He finally fell asleep at 12:45 and woke 30 minutes later when he heard his sick brother hacking in his room.  NIGHTMARE!!  If I don't get an EW tomorrow, I don't know what to do other than just go for one nap.  If he wakes early, then I guess 2 naps, but our old routine is flushed. His A times have taken a sudden jump. This is now 3 days of naps under 45 minutes.  Ladies, we're all going into the toilet together it appears!!

[*Jo*]

better put on my swimsuit then if we are going down the loo. we got a 1 hour 10min nap after all that, whats with 1 hour 10mins? i put him down for a nap, he refuses for up to an hour then falls asleep and bang on 1 hour 10mins he wakes up! this morning he was awake for 4.5 hours before finally succumbing to sleep. and he wasnt UT, he was yawning and rubbing his eyes when i took him to his room. Ive checked his mouth and no sign of teeth. im not even sure we are gonna get a PM nap today after all this, to be honest im dreading nap times again.

gavinsmum - i feel your pain with a 30min nap all day, i really do, had a few of them last week...

wish we all lived closer, we could sit and cry together!!!!