1h naps

[ZacsMumme]

Sounds UT ... Try A of 3.15 maybe to see what you get. If you get a good nap you can think about if you need to or want to adjust the day a bit.

[ENMS]

If you get a good nap you can think about if you need to or want to adjust the day a bit.

yes  . you've probably noticed I'm the type of person that just also worries in advance and tries to think ahead  . got to stop that! As if DS would let me get away with planning ahead. he runs the show anyway so I should just try to follow his cues and stop overthinking!

[ZacsMumme]

It's ok, it's part of being a BW I think

[ENMS]

Sounds UT ... Try A of 3.15 maybe to see what you get

Yay Sara!!  I did 3h15 and got a 1h20 nap! This morning he woke after 40 mins because he had rolled on his belly and could not roll back (he usually does it but can't / won't in his crib), so I resettled him and then I had to wake him after 2h15. So a good nap day overall, did not need a CN since he woke at 4 from his second nap, real surprising considering that the day started at 5:45 today 

[ZacsMumme]

Yippee! What a star he is!

[jennandsophie]

That's great Elise.  Can't believe how much A time they are increasing almost daily.  

We had nap refusal this afternoon after a 2hr morning nap.  He fell asleep for 2 mins and as I was heading out of his room he woke with a start and just started crying hysterically.  He couldn't settle back down to sleep and so I gave up after another 30 mins.  Put him in the car and he fell asleep.  This is so crazy!  How can 2 mins of sleep be enough to stop him from napping for another hour!

[ENMS]

Can't believe how much A time they are increasing almost daily.

It is crazy... at this rate, they're going to get on one nap real early!

(((HUGS))) Jenn. It does sound like discomfort to me though, do you think that's possible at all?

[jennandsophie]

Definitely possible.  He's had avocado for lunch yesterday and today and I'm not sure if he can tolerate it.  Yesterday he got very fussy while eating it and today it was just so unlike him to wake up like that after falling asleep.  Usually I can make lots of noise because he's in a deep sleep.  Must have been something wrong like gas or reflux.

[ENMS]

Poor him. I hope he feels better soon (for your sake and his!)

[ENMS]

Is J feeling any better Jenn?

I think we might be moving on to set naps. DS sleeps for max 1h20-1h30 these days and I really find that he's not getting enough sleep for his needs. Every day of his life he is grumpy from 5-7 (or whatever is BT, 6:30 or so when no CN) (and even on great days when he has no reflux and his allergies are not bugging him), and I was discussing with DH today and realized that maybe this was the problem. Sometimes if he's OT, he'll sleep 30 mins, then I'll go and resettle him, and he'll sleep for like 2h more, I feel like this is a restorative nap. But these 1h15-1h30, I'm not so sure.

I was wondering if maybe his sleep cycle is now 1h20 or so, but he still hasn't learned how to transition. Could that be?

If I move to set naps, I think I'd spend the first couple of days trying to extend his naps even if they are 1h15 or so. See if that helps or not

[Papaya]

I was wondering if maybe his sleep cycle is now 1h20 or so, but he still hasn't learned how to transition. Could that be?

His sleep cycle should still be around 45 mins at this age - towards a year they start to lengthen out, my LO's cycle is about an hour now at 17 months. 1hr15-20 still sounds UT What are his A times now?

[ENMS]

His A times are around 3h15.  Sometimes more in the AM since I try not to put him down before 9, even if he wakes earlier than 6.

[allm416]

Good luck with the set naps. What times are you going for?

I must say that 1hr 15 naps are definitely OT for us. When I look around at other resources it seems that most LO this age only do a 2ish hr first A (e.g 2-3-4 routine) & in BWSAYP there is a most common schedule for 6-9 month olds & that first A is only 2-2hr 30 with a 9/9.30am first nap based on a 7am wake up. Like you though we aim for 9am first nap regardless of WU time (anywhere between 5 & 6.15am).

One of the previous mods on here, Creations suggested that maybe my LO had a slightly shorter sleep cycle as we frequently get 1hr 15 naps but they seem extremely common reading through all the nap posts so I guess not all of us have LO with short sleep cycles?

[ZacsMumme]

We had a ton of 1hr15 min naps but closer to 8 months, they were UT I think, but no matter what I did they were here today for a month or two eventually I went with them, but at 8 months 2x 1.15min naps isn't such a big deal as is for a 6 mth old I guess.

Trialling set naps can't hurt Elise, at least then you can say you have tried it!

[ENMS]

What times are you going for?

I was thinking of putting the first nap at 9. He usually (fingers crossed) gets up around 6:30-6:45 so that would be a bit of a short first A but I'm willing to try it.  Although he can also get up at 5:30 so if he does, I might put him down closer to 8:45 so that he doesn't become OT and push it to 9 over a couple of days. I'm also hoping for a shorter first nap and a longer second nap, I'm assuming he might nap for 1h after this short first A, and that then he can do 10-1 second A and nap 1-3.  Maybe I'm wrong, but I like using these set times since they're supposed to be the natural sleep window, but I know that if he naps for more than 1h first nap, he won't be getting a good second nap either. So I'll be willing to adjust as we go of course, and transition smoothly into it. DD will be back in daycare next week so I'll try it, we'll see if we can fit it in naturaly or if we need some longer transition.

I don't know if the 1h15 naps are because of short sleep cycles, but he seems to be able to take *some* 1h30 once in a while so I guess that wouldn't be the case 

He definitely is a unhappy baby around 5-7PM, CN or no CN, so I'm hoping maybe this is the reason why? I guess we'll see in time

Will keep you posted how it goes thanks for the advice