Support for dropping the nap part 12

[LovelyLilyandJack]

It took my daughter about 3-4 months from her first nnd to stop napping altogether, but she was always ok on nnds. Jack had his first nnd at 18 months but because he now doesn't nap at nursery 2 days running, I think he'll hold onto naps on the other days for longer.  So I think it'll be a longer process for him.

[Truly Blessed]

How long does it normally take from start to finish to drop the nap and be happy without one?

From my experience there is no definitive answer to this unfortunately, but for us it was months from start to finish.x.

[Haribo2012]

I'm joining in if anyone still about....this is the worst transition yet. With the 2-1 my DS pulled 13hr nights...with this if NND we get 6.30pm-5am sometimes back to sleep mostly not, if has a 30 min nap BT gets silly. 8.30pm the other night and NW then up at 6! Just had 5 NND in a row, mood generally great and asleep in minutes. Might try for an early CN today just to see.
Urghh just would love a post 6am WU!x

[Truly Blessed]

Hey Zoe, during the 1-0 Sam maxed out at 11 hours sleep in 24 hours. He would regularly be awake until 10 pm, no matter what we did, but when he finally dropped the nap he slept 13.5 hours reducing to 13 hours for weeks!!!! Hang fire that bit is sooooo good.

The fact he is going to sleep quickly is a big blessing though, because the farting around at BT is a huge part of the 1-0 for many, so long may that continue.

Major empathy for the 5 am WU's though, they never get any easier x.

[Haribo2012]

Bedtimes were getting ridiculous asking for a wee loads, u name it every excuse! With no nap I can say night, shout up some reassurance from the stairs and no noise after 5 mins!

I'll keep praying for that 13 hours lol...yesterday woke at 5am couldn't settle so let him in our bed and after 30 mins slept till 8am and would've slept longer!!!
It's crazy can't work it out so kind of winging it!!x

[Truly Blessed]

It's crazy can't work it out so kind of winging it!!x

Honestly Hun, with the 1-0 it's best you don't try. For us it was constantly transitional and when we found something that got S more sleep I'd get a few days out of it at most, this is definitely a one day at a time scenario.x.

[Haribo2012]

He's napped today but that's first time in 5 days so I'm hoping doesn't affect night too much...lol she says!!x

[katiebee18]

Looking for some insight here...

DS#1 just turned 3 a week ago. It was like something in his head went off and said "I am 3, I don't really need naps anymore!"

He has always been LSN. Before not napping often his day was usually like this:

WU 6:30-7AM
in bed at 1:00ish, asleep 1:45 - 3:30 (I wake him at 3:30 as his bedtime is already pretty late)
BT - in bed 8:45/9, asleep at 9:30ish

So about 8.5-9.5 hours at night and 1.5-2 hours nap = 10-11.5 hours a day. Sounds low but he has never done more than 12 hours in a day consistently, even as a little guy.

So now I have been pushing him back for nap a little later. Today up in his bed at 1:30 and he is still chatting away.

Few questions:

1) How long is reasonable to leave him in his bed awake? Yesterday was almost 2 hours and then I got him up and he watched TV (he did however start dozing on the couch at like 3:30 so he was tired)
2) I read something about a sleep regression around birthdays, could we be in that?
3) How do I make him more tired in the winter?! We are certainly less active than in the summer.
4) If he doesn't nap, how much earlier should I push up bedtime? Last night he was asleep at 8:30 but still up before 7. Sigh.

Thank you!

Oh a few more things to note - he is still in his crib, is not potty trained and has a brother who just turned 1 and takes 2 naps a day (much better sleeper than DS#1, thank goodness!)

[Haribo2012]

Urghh what a night, DS went to bed ok was about 8pm after having an hours nap but awake totally screaming for me at midnight, lasted an hour then up at 5!
Going to be a long day x

[oliversmommy]

Ugh a 5 am wu Zoe!    Hope you both get some rest today!

Katiebee - sounds like you are definitely in the throes of the 1:0 transition!  We are there ourselves so I don't have much BTDT experience, but if you want a longer night I would definitely start capping his nap to 1hr30 or even 1hr.  If he is happy in his crib during naptime, I would leave him in there for an hour at most, then get him up.  You can't make him sleep but at least he will get some rest time.  If he doesn't sleep I would move BT up about an hr. 

Gotta go, DS needs attention - hope that helps!  Will try to post more later!

[Haribo2012]

He's not really a restful child lol always on the go. Let him have a nap in pushchair today as he's got a cold come on x

[Lindsay27]

Hi Ladies!

Okay...here is our situation.

DS decided around Christmas that naps were for the faint of heart (sigh).  He completely and utterly refused to nap in his bed, so we gave that up pretty quickly.  For the last month we've been convincing him to have "quiet time" on the couch with a movie.  This was working.  More often than not he would fall asleep and have a nap on the couch.  Not ideal because it's hard to get house-work done that way, but whatever...I'll take it.  Now, that is no longer working.  He's clued into the fact that quiet time on the couch = nap time.  (They are too smart for their own good!).

I don't think he's ready to drop it completely.  We have had a decent amount of NND and he handles them fairly well, starts to meltdown around 4/5pm but is in bed early and has a decent night.  Too many NNDs in a row though and OT would def creep in.  At pre-school he is still consistently napping every day, about an hour then goes to bed about 8pm.  It is only at home that he's refusing.  Not sure if anyone has any thoughts?  I'm just kind of riding it out, offering a 'quiet time' and praying to the Lord Jesus up above that he takes it (but this is less and less).  He would probably have a car nap, but I just find that annoying because I don't accomplish anything (I get that beggers can't be choosers

Also...is anyone else finding this REALLY hard on a personal level?  This sounds so selfish, but the lack of any 'me' time is getting to me.  I work full time so the only time I really had for myself was during naps on the weekends, and now that is fading.  I really needed that time to get my bearings, clean up, work on a project, or even nap myself if I wanted too/needed it.  I struggle with this transition because I want that time for myself so bad.

[Truly Blessed]

Hi Lindsay, (HUGS) Hun, been there, TBH honest you're doing all the right things, and yes! it is harsh when your me time is taken away.

It's super that his nights are good though, it's not always the way. Maybe he is self regulating :/ From the outside looking in, it's actually a lot better scenario for the 1-0 than most (don't hit me lol  )

Also as he is still napping at nursery I wonder if he is just coveting more time with you on days at home, which is why he refuses to sleep. He just loves his Mammy x.

[Haribo2012]

Oh gosh the loss of me time has been hard, my DS has now not napped at nursery for 2 weeks and only get a nap at home if we go out for a walk in buggy as he too has got wise to nodding off on the sofa.  TBH his BT is way better on no nap asleep by 7pm mostly but his nights I don't think have got long enough yet they vary from 10/11 but his mood is fairly ok so I'm just going with the flow. x

[rachsk8]

Just when you think you are getting somewhere, along comes a 10.75hr night. Do I brave it and push on without a nap today, do a SEBT instead? Or offer a catch up nap.... Has been about 2 weeks since last nap, been going pretty good. We've had nights from 11hrs to as freakishly long as 13hrs! Argh this is hard, whose got my instruction manual?!?