It just got worse ....

[Mama2boys]

Well you can pretty much set the clock give or take 15-20 minutes for his NW.

I appreciate your concern and in all honestly its mine as well, but man does he bring the housedown at 6am...its like crying blue murder... and since his lats feed is at 7pm it makes it almost 11 hrs to his next feed. I am probably being a wuss and should just wake him up at 6, but when I have the day has been a disaster as then he sleeps for 3.5-4 hrs during the day to make up, won't sleep before 7:30pm and slowly it rolls into the OT situation...

well I am going to try and give this another few days and try W2S for the next day or so, then we are off for a short holiday and when I come back, will try and see if I Can coax him into bed till 7:oo or so. Fingers crossed

And thank you so much for your concern. Its very sweet.

[mari]

Good luck with the W2S.  I was always too scared to do it, so you are less of a wuss than I was!!

You are doing great, and sorry it sounds like I'm criticising, you are further ahead than I was after the same length of time (if that makes sense), just want this to be over for you and your little man. 

[Mama2boys]

ohh no Mari, never thought you were criticizing me. I knwo you are only looking out for my best interest. Acvtually I am feeling a bit doubtful about the W2S..as last night was a disaster, but dont know what else, will he soonee or later stop wkaing up if I continue with WIWO?

I am getting cold feet now especiually with the short break planned for this week...lets see how the evenining goes...

[mari]

Well, I did it with WIWO only, that way I had consistency with every wakeup.  Although I didn't have any pattern with the wakeups, I couldn't say that she would definitely wakeup at a certain time, it was anytime between 7pm and 7am! lol

Also, if she woke after 6am then I would get up for the day, it didn't seem worth doing WIWO for an hour's sleep.  Luckily for me it didn't cause any habitual early wakeups, she eventually slept 7pm - 7am.

[Mama2boys]

aaaghhhh decisions decisions..Well its habit for sure for my DS because of how consistent he is timewise.

Will try W2S tonight and see if it works at all, and if not WIWO it will be. DH is dead against W2S, can't see the sens in waking up the sleeping monster so who knows might just fall back to WIWO....aggghh decisions decisions...

[Colin Macs Mom]

When Colin dropped his night feed he still woke at the same time even though he wasn't hungry, so we did W2S for that and it worked GREAT 

[Vicku]

Good luck with W2S if you decide to give it a go. Said I haven't tried it, but come to think of it we sort of did it the other day, unintentionally, as my DH woke up at 5 with a really bad shoulder ( has some injury... ). Lois had been waking for the day at 5/5:30 for ages and it was impossible for her to get back to sleep, so when I heard her wimper a little as DH was moaning about his shoulder I thought 'oh no!' but she settled back to sleep, and then slept til 6:50. Since then she's slept longer in the mornings, so I wondered if it could have been like W2S? Just thought I'd share that...

[KellyC]

Good luck Mukta.  I used W2S with Zander for short naps but have never had any consistent success with it for night wakings.  The couple of times it has worked I've realised I had to wake/stir him far more than I would during a nap time.  It's probably easier if you have a dummy as you can use that as Tracy describes in the book.

Kelly x

[mari]

I have everything crossed for you.  Good luck and a very good night. 

[Lissybits]

Hi Mukta,
How did it go last night?
I've had no experience with W2S, so can't give you much advice there.
But I did want to say, to forget about sleep training over the weekend and have a really lovely holiday - goodness knows you deserve it And you can start with a new found strength when you come back 
When are you off?
Lis
x

[KellyC]

Oh yes, enjoy your holiday 

[Mama2boys]

Hi there Vicku, Mari, Kelly, Lis, Jessica

Last night was  a bit of a disaster, before I could start with W2S, Ds stirred himself and went back to sleep, so I thought job was done, but nope not stubborn lil monkey! He was up at 12 instead of 11:30 and then 3:30 on the dot and then 5:30 for the day! eeekkssss

I have a feeling W2S will not work as he is way to sensitive a sleeper, so probably need to gently get him out of the habit with PD WIWO. Jessica, sadly DS is not as sensible as Colin! btw everytime I see your Avatar, I get really hungry for a slice of big juicy Pizza!

Anyways as per you perfect advise, I am going to try and forget all abt sleep training and try and enjoy, we are off to Istanbul, we head off Thursday morning and back Monday night. Will try and hold him to UK time, so we can start the day later and end it later as well..but lets see what DS has in mind

[Mom_to_L&S]

Hi Mukta,

Jess asked me to have a look at your thread and I just made a post to Bethanys mummy here on this board about the same topic, so if you donīt mind, I am going to copy and paste my post to her.
I hope it helps a little xx

Emma, no nappy-change here either, but with our own W2S-version, we did do a quick PU/PD because Lena would be SO deep asleep that Iīd have to be rattling her cot to get her to stirr around a little and I was afraid to scare the poor thing. A stroke on the cheek is definately not enough for her to wake up.

So, with her habitual EW of 5am (this was about 2 months ago, as you know), we went in around 3am, pick her up, sit in a chair with her and rock for about 3-4 minutes, give her the paci when she stirred and then put her back down gently, tuck her in, place her doll next to her and then leave the room.
This worked from the first try and we did it for 3 or 4 days (canīt remember, fried brain) and then we stopped.
She had wake-ups ranging between 6.30 and 7.30am from then on, but 7-ish being the most common.
She goes to bed between 6.30 and 6.45pm so that is a 12H night.

I have to say, this all coincided with our switch to 1 nap so quite possibly, she had better nights because she was on 1 good nap a day, whereas right before the switch, her 2 naps were bad as she only did a 30min in the AM and then completely refuse the PM-nap 

Let me know what you decide to do,

Sophie

[Mama2boys]

Hi Sophie,

thanks for your post, unfortunately my DS is a light sleeper, so PUPD would be an absolute disaster...but the whole 2-1nap is an interesting issue, because I think we are heading towrads that right in the middle of sleep training. I have tried W2S for 2 nights with disastrous results - increased NW and EW as well....

But thanks for your post, its given me a whole new idea  to work with.
Mukta

[KellyC]

Mukta, I notice Sophie did W2S a whole 2 hours before her LO's habitual waking.  That might work with your LO as he's likely to be in a deeper sleep then.  Anyway, I bet the holiday has the effect of W2S, sometimes a break in routine gets rid of these little habits!

Kelly x