Do you know what these specialists are called? It's NAET!

[EloysH]

but good news that your back pain is getting better 

So have using the self-test. Every food that I try holds strong.  I hold a little bit of the food in the other hand as I do it.  Do you think there is anything that is guaranteed to create a weakness? Maybe I should try bleach or something???  I HAVE done the full course of NAET for myself so maybe I am too strong now LOL 

[koe2moe]

Do you have a gut feeling of what you might have a problem with?  Try anything, plants, materials, like fabric, plastic.  It was easy for me as I was weak with many things!  Keep trying.  Did you ask your chiro about self testing for Kai?

[EloysH]

I forgot!  I will have to ask when next back in two weeks 

[Grants]

Hi girls! Eloise , I have replied on the other NAET thread about self treating Kai. I have asked my practitioner for you.

BTW, I tried self-testing a pain killer on Thursday as I was in some much pain( due to bladder infection ) and was debating taking it. I just don't have a feeling for the self testing I can't differentiate . In the end I took it as I couldn't take the pain any longer( I have a very high pain threshold, so you can imagine how bad the pain was for me to take meds when I know I'm highly allergic to them). I took half of the pain killer and I took it to my practitioner to test it for me the next day and of course I was extremely weak for it. It's just proves how I don't have the feeling for the self testing. My pratitioner said that it takes practice she also says that some people just don't get it, as her sister is a NAET practitioner and still can't self test. I just hope I can get the feeling of it.

My practitioner treated me for the pain killer I took and I hadn't had a proper reaction it. I could feel it coming bit it never really materialised. She also taught me how to self treat my antibiotic (for the bladder infection) before taking it and after taking it. I started the AB course today. I just hope I don't have a bad reaction to it.

[Grants]

Koe, I posted before finishing .... I'm glad to hear that your symptoms are subsiding. Don't you think the whole self treating is a bit of a pain ? I mean it's good that it helps us not to get a reaction but it's time consuming and we have to check our clock all the time I had to treat my AB the full course -2 hours , I forgot to do my last course as I went to the airport took the AB with me and still managed to forget it . I started the course of AB anyway. I just hope it still works. I also have to do my gate points before and after I take them.

How are you feeling today ?

[EloysH]

sorry about the infection and pain
 when you say you don't have the feeling for self test, is it always strong or weak?

[Grants]

It's always strong even when I'm holding medications that I'm highly allergic to

[EloysH]

It's always strong for everything I have tested 

[Grants]

I hope we can get the feeling of it. My practitioner said that it takes practice. She also said that i should relax and not trying to hold so hard, but I'm not sure what that means lol I will have to keep on trying. Luckly for Koe she got it straight away

Btw did you get my reply for the self testing for Kai?

[koe2moe]

Grants, whether or not self treating is a pain, it's hard to say.  It IS a pain but I get more pain otherwise, physical pain.  Yesterday afternoon, I started having a very sharp headache and DS was out of sorts and kept throwing Lego and the noise caused more pain.  I have been getting all kinds of pain the last couple days but after treating the food of the whole day, at least I woke up kind of pain free and then it deteriorates as the day goes.  I am just hoping that as more different foods I self treat, the better I will feel.

As for self testing are you using pinky of the right hand and thumb?  If they are strong all the time, try using left hand.  AND the book says, if you know that you are allergic to something, say your medication, try and relax your fingers so that you will get a weak response that is how you can learn to use your strength.  Keep practicing until you get it.

What I find is that if it's something I am not allergic to, no matter how hard I pull, it is strong but if it's weak, if I pull harder, it will eventually give.  Iyswim?  But like Eloise said, if a practitioner can't self test, it isn't easy.    I am lucky indeed.  But not lucky with how sensitive I am with things  

DSs sleep was a mess recently, so I am an emotional mess today.  I am kind of scared of eating...  Do I need counseling, do you think??

[koe2moe]

Forgot one thing.  It doesn't take that much time to self treat.  You won't need to hold the vial for 20mins each time.  Just treating and balancing take a min or two, right?  I agree that it's hard to remember.   Basically when I had to do it every two hours, I just do it like OCD, whenever I remember I do it.  Better more than not enough :p

I have to go to a party this afternoon, I am wondering if I should bring a doggie bag for all foods I eat or I just won't eat.    difficult thing is remembering to keep a bit of everything and people might think that I am weird 

A colleague of my DHs has got his IgG test results back.  he's a nerd and wouldn't try anything unless there are medical research done on it.  But he went for at naturopath, so go figure :p  but... I think he's going to change a bit because apparently he was surprised at how many things he's allergic or intolerant to.  I have yet to have a chat with him about the results. 

I have a friend who has suffered eczema all her life but things are under control and she gets an occasional flare that she could handle.  I asked if she would be interested to try NAET.  She answered that she had heard of it and had a colleague who was treated and then got trained in NAET to treat her family but she herself didn't want to try it in case they find lots and lots of allergies which means forever therapy.  She can cope with the current situation.  It got me thinking if all this was worth it especially since I am nowhere feeling healthy yet.  I also asked my DH about it.  with 13 sessions behind me and over 40 elements treated, I almost didn't get sick except fri last week.  DH thinks and sees that I am much better than before.  I really do look forward to having a life.  (I just had a breakdown at lunch.)  I also wonder how much my family is affected by allergies. 

Hmm I am just waffling... Sorry....

eloise, what did the chiro do with Kai?  Did you ask her to check specifically with avocado?

[EloysH]

I really do look forward to having a life.  (I just had a breakdown at lunch.)

I am wishing you every success and am visualising happiness and robust health for you  Surely you will get there, whether it be with NAET or NAET + the next thing, either way if your health continues to improve then that's the most important thing.

So for us, the avocado happened a few days after I saw the chiro practioner.   At the last treatment she checked how he was going with the new pure liquid B6 supplement, the body said yes he is stronger in making the the chemical needed for detoxing - can't remember the name now it as a vial of something a rather.  And the body said yes continue to take it, well duh, he takes b6 every day of his life and will be till he is about 2 years old. 

The good interesting part of the appointment was that  I asked her to do some (Neuro Emotional Technique) NET on him for his SA.  He has been awful at bedtimes ever since we went away for the weekend last weekend. It was crippling him he would cry for me and not even attempt to self settle, and i had to give him many many long drawn out cuddles but he wasn't settling, and too worried about me leaving the room, but not wanting to go to sleep.  So she treated that and funnnily enough when she asked him to think about how he felt when he woke up and I was gone over the weekend, he burst into tears spontaneously.  Then once "cleared" he responded strong when asked all the questions " are you ok without Mum, are you ok without Dad, are you ok to go to sleep on your own". 

Anyway when we got home he was due to nap and I thought - "here we go".  Well funnily enough he went straight down without a fight and chatted happily for 20 mins and then dropped off. And he has continued to be this way all week!!!   She did another bunch of adjustments, including for low stomach acid (a chronic issue due to his reflux meds) but basically that was the main thing.

So I will ask about self test for a surrogate and also about the avodcaod next week. I hope she has a vial for that, as she doesn't have the full suite like my NAET lady had.


Now I am talking about myself on your thread, maybe I will let mine go quiet for now unless i find something specific about IgG and we can continue our discussions here, as we seem to be on exact same topic now 

Oh thanks for sharing about the igG test, I am VERY interested to hear more.  We are off to see a wholistic paed tomorrow for Kai and he will probably suggest to do the IgG test. I am going to question him in detail is to its validity.  It's going to cost us an arm and a leg, but I think we will go for it, especially of he says it doesn't bring false positives.  It could save us alot of heartach as we are yet to do a wheat food challenge for Kai.  I can't bring myself to put him through more food challenges he has been through so much discomfort.

Grants, thanks for posting about the self test, I forgot to say thanks  I have been practicing but not got the knack yet.

[koe2moe]

Eloise, bring some avocado with you to your next appointment.  Initially when I started self testing, I would bring stuff, like tea, bread, jam that I tested whether strong or weak and for my practitioner to confirm if I got the right response.  That's how I learned.   

I now found out the hard way that even when I was cleared with the vial of spices1 mix, I was still reacting very strongly to it, which was fri last week.  I guess the vial contains the energy mark of the substance but in very weak dosage.  S now self treating for the foods I actually eat, hopefully is the last step.

One tip I learn from my nerd friend about IgG test is that it will only show allergies/intolerances to things that Kai has been exposed to.  The body produces the antibodies towards the substance but since he hasn't been eating too many things considering his young age, it will only confirm what you have already observed probably.  Iyswim.  My nerdy friend A tried his best to eat as many different kinds of foods as he possibly could before the blood was taken.  My NAET practitioner also offered to do blood work for me if that's what I wanted, but she said it's about 70% accurate.

Is NAET or any of these alternative therapies covered by health insurance down under?  I am thinking whether or not to suggest to a friend whose daughter has extreme eczema problems.  Thanks

[EloysH]

The igG test isn't, but the NAET is if you pay for the "extras cover" and not just general hospital cover.

I feared that about exposure --- Kai has never been exposed to cows milk,  he had about one tablespoon of yoghurt a day for about 6 weeks, I stopped that 2 months ago...

He has had crusts of wheat toast for runs of 4-5 days in the past few months but no more wheat than that....

He has had quite a few salicylates though, so hopefully enoguh to see of there would be pattern in sensitive to moderates, highs or very high salicylates.

That's annoying about needing exposure though as I am reluctant to put him through discomfort + it means 2hrs or more night wakings for us each night 

[Grants]

Koe, I hope you manage to enjoy the party. I don't know what to suggest. It's really hard as you don't want to eat something that can make you feel ill but you also don't want to be 'rude' and bring your own bag . I would peharps eat at home and then go

I self treat for 2 hours. Do gatepoints every 20 mins holding the allergen. I find it very hard to get 2 hours to concentrate on the treatment and like yesterday I had to go to the airport and forgot to do my last one:(. I guess I can do it in the evening next time. I just had to do it ASAP as I wanted to start the course of AB.

Eloise, no worries about not thanking me. I was just asking as I was curious to find out if you were managing to successfully self test with Kai.
I completly agree about exposing Kai to new things. I think it can even be dangerous as he is so young and quite sensitive. Would that be better to wait another few years until his immune system is more mature ?

So far no reactions with the AB. I have already taken 3. But my  allergy is a delayed kind so I will only know if I have a reaction after 2 or 3 days.nevertheless I'm feeling awful. Headaches etc