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Do you want to chat about transitioning to a sippy cup??
« on: December 12, 2006, 18:25:47 pm »
My daughter is 11 months old and has a bottle first thing in the morning, before afternoon nap and one before bed totalling 18 ounces give or take, however we have been giving her a sippy with water or watered down juice for the last 4 months and she just wont drink out of it.  We have bought numerous sippy cups and are getting quite concerned for she only has those 3 bottles a day and I am worried about dehydration.  she will be turning a year old in January and I am not sure if we will be able to get her to drink anything.  We would like to put milk when we transition her over in the sippys and get rid of the bottles.  Does anyone have any advice on how I should go about doing this, What are the guidelines for dropping bottles or changing to sippy cups.  DD will only drink from her bottle formula nd it has to be warm if it is not warm enough she refuses to drink it.  Hence worried about the transition to milk in a bottle because it is cold, and wont drink it from her bottle.  Any advice is greatly appreciated.  thank you
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Re: Do you want to chat about transitioning to a sippy cup??
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2006, 19:49:54 pm »
My daughter was similar with the sippy,   but she never wanted her milk/formula that warm.   It did take my daughter a while to get used to the sippy cup,   I first offered it at 6 months old and it took about 6 different sippy cups to finally find the one she liked the best.    She definitly drinks better out of the gerber sippy cups than any other.   She hated the advent sippy's and the evenflo sippy's.    I think it took a good 2-3 months before she really got the hang of the cup,   and now she is fine with it at 1 year old.    I never offered her juice but she will drink water and milk out of hers.     You might try to give her the warm milk in the sippy and just see how she does with it.    I had another post about transitioning the 1st morining bottle and the bedtime bottle to the sippy,  which is what I'm dealing with right now.    I remember with Leia I just had to keep offering the sippy and she finally got it but it did take some time.      Hope this helps!    Lisa
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Re: Do you want to chat about transitioning to a sippy cup??
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2006, 21:00:45 pm »
Thanks for replying, at her snack this afternoon i will try with warm formula in her sippy.  Duh why did I not think of that.
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Re: Do you want to chat about transitioning to a sippy cup??
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2006, 21:10:02 pm »
I hope you don't mind, I have renamed your post "Do you want to chat about transitioning to a sippy cup??"

There seems to be a quite a few posts about this recently so I wanted to get a place together where mums could have a chat about what works best.



I managed to transition to sippy with Calum when the site was down (early Nov 06).

I use the green spouted magic cup as well and previous (like your LO) he refused milk in it.


I have been using NUK bottles and happened to look on ther website to see thay had brough out a new bottle.  As I had aldready bought 3 of their bottles, I decided to try the new teat.  It is a sippy teat that fits the existing bottles he uses.

I started off by putting the sippy teat on the bottle to start with (sitting on my knee with his back to me, so I can guide in his mouth), at first he would only take an oz or so before I had to put the old 'normal' teat back on, but over a week (if that) he was happily drinking from the bottle with the sippy teat AND starting to hold it himself. At this stage he was still on my lap with his back to me, so I can tilt him back when needed.


Eventually he would hold the bottle with the sippy top for the entire feed, so it got to the stage I could plonk him on a chair, where he could see me and he would drink the milk.     It was when he was ill and I didn't intend to give him milk or I didn't think he would take it that I first tried out of a proper sippy cup and he took it first time.

Using his bottle with the new sippy teat worked great for us, but I made sure that I took it off him as soon as he started to shake it about, because it isn't leak proof.   



Hope that makes sense, I have gone on a bit.....
Lauren xxx

If you can't get sippy teats for your bottles, just try your LO on your lap with his back to you with his normal sippy and even if he takes an 1oz, give the rest in his bottle and keep trying.


Lauren
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Re: Do you want to chat about transitioning to a sippy cup??
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2006, 21:13:04 pm »


The cup challenge

To ease the transition from breast or bottle to cup, Professor Wolke suggests letting your child bite with his gums, suck and otherwise manipulate an empty cup or trainer cup starting at about six months. When your baby becomes accustomed to playing with it, offer him water or diluted juice in a cup at snack time. It should help ease the weaning process for both of you.


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I have just been reading 'TBW Sayp' page 131-2 about Trainer cups. Tracy's says:

Trainer Cups: I’m a Big Kid Now!



Around the time you start thinking about introducing solid food, you should also think about getting your child used to a trainer cup, so that he can make the transition from sucking his liquids down through a nipple to drinking like the big kids. It too, is part of allowing your child to grow up, to go from being fed to eating on his own. As I mentioned earlier, some breastfeeding mums go straight from breast to trainer cup. Others introduce a bottle early on, or later and also give their children a trainer cup at the same time.

When a mother says to me, “I just can’t get my child to use a trainer cup”, I wonder how hard she’s trying, what mistakes she’s made in her attempts to teach her child how to use it, and whether she expects overnight results. As always, I ask my questions:

At what age did you first try to introduce it? Even if a baby is on a bottle and breast, at six months, it’s important to try out a trainer cup. You can also give her a plastic cup, but a trainer cup is better because it has a Spout that controls the flow. Your child can hold it herself, too, which promotes her independence. (Never ever give a glass to a baby or young child, not even up to four or five years old. I’ve seen too many chil¬dren rushed to the emergency room with glass in their lips and tongue.)

How often did you try to give it? You have to give your child three weeks to a month of daily practice for him to get used to a trainer cup. It will take longer if you don’t give it every day.

Did you try different types? Few babies immediately take to a trainer cup. If yours doesn’t like it at first, remember that it’s new and foreign to him. There are also so many trainer cups on the market now - some have a spout and others a straw. Breast—feeding babies often do better with a straw type of trainer cup. Regardless of the type you buy first, try one stick with for at least a month. Resist switching from one back to the other.

In what position do you hold your baby when giving him a trainer cup?
Many parents hand their baby a trainer cup while he is sitting in a high chair or booster seat and expect him to know what to do. Instead, you should sit your baby on your knee, facing outward. Guide his little hands onto the handles and help him pick the cup up to his mouth. Do it gently, and do it at a time when he’s in a good mood.

How much—and what kind of—liquid do you put into the cup? Here’s where I see a lot of parents go wrong: They put too much liquid into the trainer cup, so it’s too heavy for the baby to bold.  I recommend no more than an 25 ml (an ounce) of water, pumped milk, or formula to begin with. Avoid juice, because your baby does not need the extra sugar. You also risk that she’ll always associate  the trainer cup with sweet liquid and refuse all others.


Okay, you say I’ve already made that mistake! She’s now using the trainer cup like a champ but refuses to drink milk in it. You can’t go cold turkey on her  - she’ll get upset, perhaps start associating the trainer cup with a negative experience, and she might even get dehydrated (especially if she’s been weaned from breast and doesn’t take a bottle). Start by offering her two cups of liquid at her meal. In one, have 25 ml (an ounce) of the liquid you’ve been giving her - say juice or water - and in the other pour 5()ml (two ounces) of milk. After she has a sip of the water, take that cup away try to give her the milk. If she refuses, leave it and try an hour later. Even if she’s already proficient, try sitting her on your knee for a drink. As with most things,  if you persist, ~and try to make it a fun, loving experience, instead of seeing it as a skill you have to teach her immediately, you’re more likely to be successful.

As with weaning, when you see your baby with a trainer cup, you might have mixed feelings, because he looks older. That’s okay - most mums do. Just let go and enjoy the journey.


Too Old for a Bottle?



Mothers are often advised to get rid of the bottle by a year or 18 months at the latest, but I think 2 is plenty of time. It’s not the end of the world if your baby takes a few minutes at bedtime with his bottle to snuggle up in Mum or Dad’s lap.


Left to their own devices, many toddlers give up their bottles voluntarily by 2. When they want to hang on longer it’s usually because they’ve been allowed to use a bottle as a dummy—for instance, Mum gives it to him as a quick fix to shut him up at the mall, or Dad shoves it into his mouth to avoid a meltdown in front of company. Or the parents may use a bottle to send him off to naps or nighttime sleep. Some parents leave a bottle in the child’s cot, hoping to grab an extra hour of sleep, which is not only habit-forming, it’s dangerous. The child could choke. Also, when a child is allowed to nurse a bottle all day, he fills up on liquid and often eats less food.


If your child is 2 or older and is still walking around with a bottle, it’s time to intervene:

**Make some ground rules about the bottle—only at bedtime, or only in the bedroom.

**Bring snacks with you, instead of relying on the bottle for sustenance, and deal with tantrums differently.

**Make the bottle less attractive. Cut a slit in the nipple, about 6—9 mm (1/4 —3/8 inch) across. Wait 4 days and then cut a slit the other way, so you’ll have an X. After another week, cut first 2 and then all 4 of the triangles. Eventually, you’ll have a big square opening and your child will lose interest altogether.


taken from "the baby whisperer solves all your problems" p 127
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Re: Do you want to chat about transitioning to a sippy cup??
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2006, 22:05:26 pm »
wow so much information, i think its great that you renamed the post, so other mums can get help too.  Thank you
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Re: Do you want to chat about transitioning to a sippy cup??
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2006, 19:13:06 pm »
Yes, thank you! I'm exactly in the same boat as you Elizabeth's mom. My little girl will turn 1 in Jan, and its such a struggle.  The more hungry she is the worse she gets and will cry and throw a fit if I give her a sippy cup over her bottle for milk.  With the sippy cup I do have, the Avent one, she will only drink water out of it and only 2 or 3 sips. I try that at every solid meal. I will try to see if I can find a sippy nipple that fits my bottle. I got the Nuby sippy cups, but she doesn't like those either. We shall see.
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Re: Do you want to chat about transitioning to a sippy cup??
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2006, 19:35:54 pm »
I just realized that the nuby sippy cup spots fit onto my bottles so I will try that on her bottle this afternoon, maybe this is the way i should go I am going to try everything at least once.  Dd only takes a couple of sips as well, and then plays with it .  Let me know how you get on .

p.s i m not sure if you are interested or not, but there is a birth club for our babies age group under easy in the forum if you are interested.   Labelled January/ february 2006.
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Re: Do you want to chat about transitioning to a sippy cup??
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2006, 20:11:23 pm »
I think the main factors are;

*perserverance
*****Position  -  what position do you hold your baby when giving him a trainer cup? Many parents hand their baby a trainer cup while he is sitting in a high chair or booster seat and expect him to know what to do. Instead, you should sit your baby on your knee, facing outward. Guide his little hands onto the handles and help him pick the cup up to his mouth. Do it gently, and do it at a time when he’s in a good mood.****
*Small amounts, other wise it is too heavy

I started off by putting a small amount of milk in a sippy to start with (sitting on my knee with his back to me, so I can guide in his mouth), at first he would only take an oz or so before I had to give him the rest of the milk from his bottle, but over a week or so he took it himself form the cup. At this stage he was still on my lap with his back to me, so I can tilt him back when needed.


I also resorted to removing the handles from DS's AVENT sippy cup when he was younger becasue he became more interested in chewing the handles then the spout.  ::)
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Re: Do you want to chat about transitioning to a sippy cup??
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2006, 04:44:31 am »
Thanks elisabeth'smom, I didn't realize there was a baby group!
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Re: Do you want to chat about transitioning to a sippy cup??
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2006, 22:29:13 pm »
Lauren, what do you think about sippys with straws?

at what age should they start taking milk with their meals instead of before? Should I first move the bottle to after meal and then slowly move the 2 closer together?

currently it is:
6-7oz
7-breakfast
10-yogourt snack
12 lunch
2 bottle 6-7oz
5 dinner
6:30 6-7oz bottle, 7 bed
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Re: Do you want to chat about transitioning to a sippy cup??
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2006, 06:36:03 am »
Lauren, what do you think about sippys with straws?

I bought DS a straw cup when he was 9 months, after I noticed on holiday he prefered to drink water from a grown-up bottle on holiday. It is another way of sucking and a different body position to the sippy or bottle i.e. don't tilt the head back or you won't get anything out, etc...  Now he can drink from normal juide cartons with small straws 9 I only know this because he stole mine when I wasn't lookng)

at what age should they start taking milk with their meals instead of before? Should I first move the bottle to after meal and then slowly move the 2 closer together?

currently it is:
6-7oz
7-breakfast
10-yogourt snack
12 lunch
2 bottle 6-7oz
5 dinner
6:30 6-7oz bottle, 7 bed

Are you meaning breakfast? If so can probably swap at a year, but there is hard or fast rule exept milk is main intake until 12 months
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Another sippy cup question
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2006, 14:51:11 pm »
I have twins of 11 months and I am slowly trying to wean them off bottles of formula and onto sippys with cows milk. I thought I'd start with the sippy cup transition first at the afternoon feed......

Tried it today and my daughter was fine - she drank 5oz formula straight down from the sippy cup.
My boy on the other hand would have none of it, he just refused to drink it (no screaming, just wasn't interested), so I put the formula in his bottle and he drank it stright down??

He is fine drinking 4 or 5 oz of water happily from a sippy but he will not drink formula. I have tried a few times (probably every 3/4 days or so) over the last month and he has always refused it. This was my girls best day and I was very pleased with her now accepting it from the sippy  :)

But I don't know where to go from here with my boy..........

Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Another sippy cup question
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2006, 15:35:16 pm »
I have never had much success with the sippy cup and milk so I don't worry.  I'd rather her drink the milk than stop using the bottle.  She only has it in the morning and bed time and it goes down in one hit.  My son was the same, I let him stop when he was ready and I think he was about 2 and a half.

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Re: Another sippy cup question
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2006, 16:00:08 pm »
Hi there,
I agree, would rather they get the milk in them than worry about the bottle. As long as they're not drinking too much milk in lieu of solid food, I wouldn't worry too much about it.
You might just keep offering the cup before you offer the bottle. Maybe he'll see his sister doing it and want to join in!
I know it took my LO about a month to really get into his cup. He's still not big on drinking milk from it, but he loves water and diluted juice that way.
Good luck!
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