12 month old (now almost 14 mo) with 30-45 min naps- THREAD 2

[NiknLily]

Hi Leslie
boy your a worry wort  M is doing great, really trully fantastic 

JMO but I would nap her at 12pm then have her in bed 4.5-5hrs after wake up from nap.  I would say catnaps after 5pm is just too much sleep too late in day for her to settle at bedtime.

DEFINITLY stay out of her room at bedtime, ONLY do WI/WO from now unless of course she is ill or something.  They are sooooo clever at this age, she doesn't want to be left alone, particularly if not all that tired and she knows just how to make sure she doesn't get left alone.  Believe me, I have really bought the T shirt on this one, screaming bloody murder is totally different cry to 'Mummy I'm so scared please help me' crying.

But really you have done soooo well, I'm so very pleased for you.  Remember I said at some point all post 2-1T mums just stop stressing for their own sanity, its your turn, relax you've cracked it 

IBS finally gone away  so I'm feeling human again.  On the teeth front Lily is teething really hard at present.  I thought we where going to finally get some new teeth, but what actually seems to be happening is her top canines are bumping up just like bottom ones (they have been ready for 6m now) and so far still no new teeth 

[skatty]

Leslie, she really is doing very well nowadays, I think she found it hard to settle last night due to late catnap, a busy day and having dad in the room!

Nicola, I am glad your IBS has gone. I hear you on the teething, L's bottom canines are right under the gum, one in particular just looks like it just needs to pierce through and has a small speck of blood, she's had this before  I think Lily and Leorah have gums of steel 

[LCandB]

I agree with everyone else - she really is making progress.  I do understand your frustration though - its hard to see the forest for the trees sometimes.  If you reread my sleep log that I sent you - you will probably see that I had similar frustrations before her nap started consistently hitting 1h45m - I just couldn't figure out how that could be enough sleep.  Stick with the 12 nap and bring bedtime forward for awhile.  Definitely try and do WIWO - if I stayed in - LC will stay up all night screaming bloody murder at times. 

Nic - so glad you are feeling better!

I feel you guys on the teething thing - we only have 6 teeth but she's acting like somethings brewing. 

[lesorl]

Her nap today was 11:50am -12:55pm.  I think bedtime is 5:55pm, as I don't want to get in to the dreaded early to bed early to wake cycle.  Should I try to W2S, or just wait it out?

Laura and Katt- thank you again for keeping things in perspective for me.  Yes, naps are now better than 30 mins but I'm demanding as hell and I want 90 min naps or more!   

Beth- feeling any better today?

Nic- glad you're feeling better.  And yes, you have me pegged again- total worry wart.  You missed your calling- I think you should have been a psychologist!

And teething a PITA, huh?  We're working on the 4th molar right now, and it's been going on for at least 3 months!

[lesorl]

Oh goodness- put her to bed at 5:55pm, and she was up crying at 6:30pm!  Should bedtime have been earlier? 

[NiknLily]

Hi Leslie

I know its not ideal and is a sign generally of them being a little too tired by bedtime.  Not sure if this is helpful or not

Lily I think I had about 2m of 45min wake ups after bedtime when she transitioned.  For me it was a case of 2 naps not working at all, but not taking a long enough 1 nap and until she did there was not much I could do about it.  For the most part the nws where brief and generally only took 1/2 WI/PD/WO for her to settle back to sleep and would sleep solid the whole rest of the night. 

So I guess what I'm saying is as long as the nw is manageable and not causing proper OT to creep in then sometimes you just have to roll with it. I guess in an ideal world once transitioned you shouldn't be getting these too tired at bedtime nws but I couldn't figure them out, Lily just grew into her routine and the nws stopped.

Sorry said it might not be helpful, but this was my experience.

[lesorl]

Nicola- 2 months of 45 min wakeups after bedtime?  Oh geez...

In bed at 5:%5pm, crying at 6:30pm (1 WI/PD/WO- she was on her knees when I went in), and more crying at 8:35pm (couldn't find paci, so WI/replace paci/WO) and B2S.  Woke today at 6:43am.

The last 2 days she was asleep after 4 hours 45 mins A time, but that would make the nap today at 11:30am, and then I don't think she'll make it to bedtime.  I'm planning for a nap at 11:50am, and hoping for the best.

[lesorl]

Seriously, I can't take this.

Today she slept from 11:53am-12:38pm.  I decided not to roll her over at the 15 min mark, and we have a 45 min nap.

What the heck do I do now?  Catnap won't be til 4:30pm-5pm.  Bedtime at 5:30pm?

This blows.

[MommaHolmes]

Try for a catnap at 4pm, make sure her dinner's ready to go and if she's not asleep by 4:30 then get her up, shovel her dinner down her and put her to bed!

[skatty]

Leslie it sounds like we have similar situations, L is also back to 1hr20 naps which is on the short side for her now and I am sure it's because of all the Easter disruption. My plan is to take it really easy the next few days and make sure she isn't going down too late for naps. If I were you I would offer a slightly earlier nap so you can definitely get a catnap again as M was thriving on the catnap wasn't she? Maybe offer her a nap at 11.30 and then if she sleeps until 12.30 you can try and have her asleep for her catnap by 4.30pm (15-20 mins) and in bed asleep by 7-7.30pm. If she is already tired I think 5 hrs A time before the nap may be pushing it.

I agree with Laura's strategy for today, good idea to have dinner ready. I used to let L catnap anytime before 5pm and could still get her down for 7pm, wont M do this? How about if you cut the catnap to 15 mins? Asleep for 7.30 isn't too bad if she will sleep until 7am but with early bedtime she tends to have early wakings too doesn't she?

[lesorl]

Laura- I must tell you, you keep me laughing!

Mercifully, she fell asleep in the car on the way home from shoe shopping (I tried to put her Mary Janes on for Easter, and her little fat foot would not go in!), about 4:10pm-4:30pm.

Had her in bed by 6:30pm, and am currently doing WI/WO.  Good times.

[lesorl]

Well I did WI/WO for about 20 mins, but she was getting more upset.  I stood in her room at 6:55pm, and she was asleep by 7:05pm, up for the day at 6:30am.

Should I aim for 1 nap at 12pm today, or move that nap a little earlier and force a catnap?  I'm leaning towards 1 nap.

How's everybody else doing?

[lesorl]

I believe another minor miracle has occurred here...

Put M down at 11:54am, and heard her call out at 12:39pm (the 45 min mark), and I *think* she went B2S.  The key might be rolling her over at the 15 min mark.

[LCandB]

That's great Leslie!  LC did that exact same thing and once she made it past that mark 2 days in a row we were moving on to better things.  So hopeful that M is turning the corner!!

[lesorl]

I'm almost afraid to type this, for fear of jinxing myself.

M slept from 11:54am-1:25pm, with a cry let out at 12:39pm.  I may have even gotten her too soon at 1:25pm, as she wasn't a happy camper.  But I was so darn excited she took a decent nap!

I had her in bed at 6:08pm, and I think she fell off closer to 6:15pm.  Fingers crossed for a good night, and this continues.

We had a spill at the playground this afternoon, and she fell into a bush.  Now it looks like she got scratched by a tiger right under her eye