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Re: Support for dropping the last nap age 2-3 yrs
« Reply #210 on: October 18, 2009, 07:10:53 am »
I posted a new topic on this.. probably should have come here first huh! I m in exactly the same boat and feel like its all fallen to pieces especially since moving our clocks forward an hour. She is now fighting everything... it seems like going back to basics but if yours are crying but its really one of those whingy whining type cries not a full on cry do you leave them? She has been going for 15 - 20 mins now on and off but pretty constant and does the odd good cry out but its mainly that whingy moan. Leave her to try and settle? She's had 30 mins wind down in her bed and an extra song when I went back in the first time...

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Re: Support for dropping the last nap age 2-3 yrs
« Reply #211 on: October 18, 2009, 12:13:20 pm »
Hi Girls,

Going through similar with nap days  (around 2 hour nap)  taking LO over and hour to fall asleep and waking early 6am (and that's with the clocks recently going forward)  so only doing 9 - 10 hour nights.      On no nap days  he's been sleeping 11 - 12 hours nights and waking at 7am (yeah!).

The only way we improved short nights was to keep cutting the nap until the nights lengthened.    He would do a  no nap day once a week and then try to catch up sleep the next day with a 3 hour nap   (and still a 9-10 hour night)  so now i have conceeded that I forever have to wake him from naps.

The problem is he's ony 23 months, so I'm a little worried about how young he is for all this.   We just did 4 no nap days in a row, he played in his cot for 1 - 1.5 hours each day and didn't nap.   Today he napped, I woke him at 1.5 hours,  we put him down later 1:30pm.  This will be the new nap time.  fingers crossed for a bit more napping.   

Anyway, I would say keep nap cutting......short nights are no good  (for us anyway) LO is too out of sorts after only 9 hours sleep.


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Re: Support for dropping the last nap age 2-3 yrs
« Reply #212 on: October 18, 2009, 12:18:04 pm »
Louise: IKWYM  after 4 days of no napping, only on the 4th day did he sleep 12 hours.  All other days were 11 hours.

Heidi: I hear you on the 'day 3 meltdown'.  We had a meltdown on day 3 of no naps.  Usually LO skips his nap one day a week.
I hope that his nights extend for you as soon as he can handle staying up a bit later.  Maybe you can make the bedtime 10 mins later every week or so and see if that helps? Especially if he had a short nap that day, hopefully he could handle a little later bedtime.   


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Re: Support for dropping the last nap age 2-3 yrs
« Reply #213 on: October 20, 2009, 00:38:28 am »
Eloise - scary at 23 months huh! But I have friends who's little ones have dropped that early, took a long time to adjust and they have problems with OT and tantrums so I reckon try and keep as long as possible (easier said than done though huh!!)
I decided I am going to pretend none of this has happened (with a glass of wine in hand) and just add an hour to everything she was doing prior to daylight savings and see how we go. Its going to mean later bedtimes but I'll just see what happens... she seemed fine before the times changed so....

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Re: Support for dropping the last nap age 2-3 yrs
« Reply #214 on: October 20, 2009, 03:04:11 am »
yes yes I agree! Here's to forging on and keeping that nap!  We are defo trying later nap times for a while to see of that helps, as the earlier window of 12:30 - 1:00pm is just not successful at the mo.

Best of luck with daylight savings, when it hit here I had alreadt brought everything back half hour over the past few weeks so it wasn;t that bad, and we had chronic EW's anyway due to long naps -  I was letting him sleep 2.5 to 3 hours sometimes, so we had short nights and ew's. So in a sense, the daylight savings was much of a muchness really.       Still not back to the old bedtimes yet, but slowly getting there.  On the whingy cry, honestly, I would just check in very quickly if at all, to check that she has everything she needs and say to say "I'll be back soon"  or "good night now, you got your teddy, your tucked in, great, good night"  as we know it's a tired or settling cry.

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Re: Support for dropping the last nap age 2-3 yrs
« Reply #215 on: October 20, 2009, 05:04:08 am »
Eloise - I know lo's who are still napping at 4 years and then others who dropped their nap as early as 18 months.  It just goes to show they've all got differing sleep needs. 

Good luck with keeping the naps ladies - Scarlett is 26 months and I've decided the only way forward is to chop down her nap - 30 mins max (although having said that she will need more today - up at 5am again!)

When she wakes now I hold off from going into her and yesterday she did settle back off until 6.15am but no such luck today and she ended up waking up her big sister.  bummer.
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Re: Support for dropping the last nap age 2-3 yrs
« Reply #216 on: October 20, 2009, 21:32:54 pm »
Having not been about for a while I popped in to see how others were fareing with the inbetweeners since we're in the zone now.
Started when ds started pre school, they could only do afternoon sessions from 12.15 twice a week and since that cuts slap bang in the middle of his nap, well it had gone a bit screwy.
Hes 27 months and I've worked hard for it and I'm lucky that whatever time he wakes in the morning (I've been up early with the baby at stupid O clock, but I hear him from about 5am/6am) and he plays in bed til I get him up at 7am, unless he hears me about that is then he'll start calling me.

Typical day was  I get him up at 7am
1st nap anywhere between 11 and 12 and he would sleep up to 3 hrs.
Bed time at 6.30pm since he dropped to the one nap (it was 6pm)!
I know, I've had it cushy.

He's gone three days without naps, just playing in bed/whinging (I dont go in unless he's def upset or shouting for me) so I give up and put him to bed earlier at night, the odd night as early as 5.30pm but he's the sort of toddler that if I let him get past that OT manic bit he cant sleep and will wake to shout at various intervals during the nightwhere I've resettled him quickly and quietly.
Its also that age when they start getting night terrors and with pre school starting on top...

I've had some success with just watching him, the odd day he's been absolutly fine with no nap and an early 6pm bedtime. Other days he starts to go manic about 10am ish (he's Ot cos of not napping for a day or so before) so we'll look at books in his room for a short while then he'll go down easy about 10 mins later for about 1hr30.
It's flux time so I'm taking his lead as to what he needs til he fully drops it. Mania is deffy the behaviour I get from him. Touch wood, even tho he no longer naps every day, he's managing it better.
And when he does I'll cry, just like I did when dd dropped her last nap!
Its a bugger cos I'd finally got it where ds1 and ds 2 would nap at the same time.









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Re: Support for dropping the last nap age 2-3 yrs
« Reply #217 on: October 21, 2009, 05:39:48 am »
Murphys law huh - its like someone up there hears you as soon as you say to yourself 'I think I've got this sorted'!!!!

We had two completely different days.. yest Lily had daycare so 40 mins nap then I put to bed later winding down from 8, left at 8:20 went back in once and she cried for a furhter 10 mins so 15 all up. Then today she fell asleep in the car for 2  mins around 12:30 woke when trying to move her into bed, so I did wind down etc left her and two hours later she come out with no sleep. I told her if you are going to be a big girl and no nap then big girls have early bedtime - we even shook on it!

Just put her down at 6:15 after a little bit of delaying tactics and told her she would get a sticker if goes to sleep like good girl - well fingers crossed she's actually gone straight to sleep! HAsn't done that in ages!

Hasn't given me any more answers tho!!! Just going to always try for the nap, and if it doesn't happen early bedtme to the rescue! Puts planing your day out the window huh.

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Re: Support for dropping the last nap age 2-3 yrs
« Reply #218 on: October 21, 2009, 07:40:16 am »
I totally agree with you, no two days are the same anymore, mind you I think their fine with it. I think it's just me. I NEED predictability for petes sake!!!! Lol.
I live for nap time and bedtime, if thats wrong...I dont ever want to be right...



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Re: Support for dropping the last nap age 2-3 yrs
« Reply #219 on: October 21, 2009, 23:07:28 pm »
Totally the same at my end, I have always been a routine mum for her sake and mine so its hard not having the predictability. She was awake at 4am this morning, wide awake happy as larry really. She did go back to sleep - I think shes a sleep begets sleep sort of kid so needs that nap still. She's at home with daddy today so hopefully he has more luck. She woke at 6 too so its like she was trying to shorten that night sleep back towards the 10 hour mark....

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Re: Support for dropping the last nap age 2-3 yrs
« Reply #220 on: October 22, 2009, 01:07:32 am »
Just read back a few pages to see how everybody is doing.

I think 3rd day is key here too, so I will def. keep that in mind.

DS is almost 2 years old and we've just started the transition. A few weeks ago we had our first no nap day. Then the next day he was practically begging for his nap. Then the next day after that he skipped his nap again.
So we've had days like this off and on.
Then two days ago we had a no nap day. Yesterday DH pretty much forced the issue because Lyle was up at 5:30 in the morning. Then Lyle was up for almost 2 hours during the night last night ???
Today was a no nap day. Even with such an awful night. He was even in the car twice today. 
I put him to bed at 6:30 so we'll see how the night goes.

It seems like from the last few posts that most of us are just starting the transition is that true?
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Re: Support for dropping the last nap age 2-3 yrs
« Reply #221 on: October 23, 2009, 14:31:19 pm »
How's everybody getting on?

We've had a rough few days here.
Then I let DS sleep do much during his nap yesterday, because he kept waking up crying and then putting himself back to sleep.
So we had a 9 hour night last night  :(
8pm-5am.

Not sure when to try to put him down today. If I put him too early I get a nap refusal. If I put him to late he wakes up crabby and is crabby most of the afternoon.
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Re: Support for dropping the last nap age 2-3 yrs
« Reply #222 on: October 23, 2009, 16:17:35 pm »
my dd is doing the same, 8pm-5am, i could barely keep her awake the other day when i tried a no nap day, she fell asleep at 4pm and i could not wake her. i just do not know what to do for the best, these 5am starts are killing me though.
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Re: Support for dropping the last nap age 2-3 yrs
« Reply #223 on: October 23, 2009, 16:52:48 pm »
How long is she napping on napping days?
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Re: Support for dropping the last nap age 2-3 yrs
« Reply #224 on: October 24, 2009, 09:29:21 am »
I have cut it back to 1hr.
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