Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition cont'd pt 4

[*Kara*]

Yes ma'am!  Once they move to one consistent nap - many will do a week or more of nice lovely 2.5 - 3 hr naps and 11-12 hr nights until the adapt to the longer A times... then the nap shortens to 2-2.5 hrs for a few days and OT hits them hard very quickly... then you get a few days of 1 hr 10 min - 1 hr 50 min naps (these are OT) so EBT is needed to catch them up again.

[Charlygirl]

I feel like every time i go to an earlier time she just naps shorter and shorter, for example the other day i put her down at 1115 and she napped for 50mins, where as if i put her down at say 1130 or 1145 she'll nap 1hr20-1hr30.  Am so confused...do u think i should stick with trying for one nap or go back to the two naps, even though that is not really working either?  Sorry just confused.....

[*Kara*]

Don't move her nap earlier... keep her nap at the same time (you want to have at least a 90 min nap).  You move BT to an earlier time if her nap is too short hun. 

[Charlygirl]

ok will try that again tomorrow. Today she woke at 520am I brought her in bed with me and managed to get another half hour sleep out of her, she woke for the day at 630. I put her in bed for her nap at 1120 cos she was so tired all morning and she slept 1hr 20.  Im considering going back to 2 naps maybe?? I put her to bed tonite early and she was asleep at 625pm.  How long did your LO do short naps in the transition period? Thanks for your help Kara xx

[Khalam's Mama]

It was a couple weeks of short naps for ds1.

I got ds2 on 1 nap today. I had gone back to 2 naps but have been struggling with ew lately so am trying 1 nap again.
I did 4hrs 40 a time and got a 1hr10 ot nap but resettle until 2hrs when the phone woke him. I ended up with a 5hr a time to bt but it would have been less but he took 25min to sleep, def ot. I have fx for a decent night. I put k to bed early in case b is up early as k is getting really ot since I moved b into his room because of all the ew.

[*Kara*]

Hugs KM!  So tough when they are sharing a room...

We had a couple of weeks of intermittent short napping... she would be great one day and nap 2 hrs +, then we would have 3 days of short naps/EBT and then a couple more good days etc...

[Charlygirl]

I'm still to get a good 2hr nap today she slept in till 730am, had a pretty restless nite, so I let her sleep in that extra half hr.... I put her in bed for her nap at 1130 cos she seemed so tired, she slept for 1hr 20 again she wakes happy but she must be so OT. Not sure if I should keep on with the one nap or try and go back to 2naps.... Have been doing the 1nap for over a week, nearly 2weeks, andvshe has never slept over 1hr35. I know I keep asking the same question just really over the 1hr20 min naps...

[theu.s.lees]

I'm not sure what is going on with DS. Last week we had all gotten a stomach virus which upset the balance of naps/nighttime sleep for everyone. Mid-week, I decided to let him sleep longer for his first nap and then do a CN later in the day. MY DH has wanted to switch to a long am short pm for a while, so we kept it that way the rest of the week. While there have been a few struggles with getting the timing of the CN (can't be too close to dinner or he's too hungry, can't go too early, or too late, etc.). But yesterday things were okay. The day was

8:00 am - Woke him up (restless night, so we let him sleep in an hour)
10:30 am - 1 pm - Nap
4:15 pm - put him down for CN. Took him a while to settle, a bit OT I think.
5:00 pm - Woke him up from CN
7:15 BT - He fell asleep around 7:30

This morning he woke up at 5 am. DH was super tired so he just gave him a bottle. He woke up around 7:15-7:30.

My only thought is that he was a bit OT at BT so we had the EW. We had taken him out on his new bike (!) but since it had taken a little longer than expected to build, we were out a little longer. Any thoughts?

Thank you!

[Khalam's Mama]

Charly have you tried resettling at the 1hr20 wu? I did just that today and he slept another 1.5hrs.
We did get hrly wu from 1.30 until 7.30am last night though so i am glad we got a better nap today as he must have been OT. He fell asleep on his breast this evening which he rarely does so he must have been really tired. maybe the 3hr nap and 11hr day will help him.

[Charlygirl]

Hey khalams mama I hv never been able to resettle after a nap wu, thru the nite seems to be okay but yeah for naps that's it no resettle....last nite I had to bf her to sleep cos she was so OT and wouldn't settle for bed. She was asleep by 640pm though. So hard this transition hey... Today I put her to bed at 1125 and again she slept 1hr 20 boo!
I even took her for a ride in car this morn to see if she'd go back to having 2 naps but nope no cn in the car... Oh well guess keep trying...

[theu.s.lees]

DH and I are now at wits end. It has been weeks since we've had a "good day" he either naps well but sleeps horribly at night, or naps poorly and sleeps worse. Here was yesterday's EASY

4a-5:45 am Woke up, upset, I tired everything to settle him, holding his hand in the crib, diaper change, bottle. Finally I held him to almost asleep and then he finally went to sleep.
8 am - Woke him Up (he went to grandma's for the day)
11 - 1:30 Nap
5:15 BT - DH tried for 30 minutes, then we let him up for another 25
8 - Finally asleep

He only went to sleep after DH held him to sleep.

I know we should've tried to get his CN in, but the day started so late that it didn't seem possible to fit in. Around 4 DH thought about putting him down, but didn't think he seemed tired.

We can't just hold him to sleep (he still has a little bit of a cough and runny nose, but still) as I fear we are AP, but he won't settle any other way.

[Charlygirl]

Theu.s.lees don't worry I hv been totally APing my DD to bed, I lie next to her on our bed then end up transferring her to her cot, I think she's so OT she finds it very difficult to settle herself at BT after a long a time and short nap.   If I can get her into bed asleep by 630pm her nights are usually okay thank god, I'd say u had a terrible nite cos he went to bed finally at 8pm... How old is your LO? Such a hard time this 2-1 hey, makes for a very crabby bubba....hope u hv a good day/nite...sorry I don't hv any great ideas for u as I'm still struggling with it all too xx

[theu.s.lees]

Kara - so if my DS is only taking one nap but it is more than 2 hours, and he's getting about 11.5-12 hours of sleep a night, he should be okay? We seem to have settled things down, but he still won't take an afternoon CN. Yesterday his nap was for 3 hours (yippee), but he woke up at 1:00 and didn't go to bed until 7:30. That seems like a long stretch since he woke up at 7 and went down at 10:00 for  his nap.

Question. If I slowly try to move his nap out to more mid-day will his BT get later?

[theu.s.lees]

Charly - Thanks, that makes me feel better! I somehow missed your post..... DS is 14 months old. So I thought we had more time before he was ready to give up one of his naps, but lately he seems to only want to take one. When we had a short am long pm, he'd fight the pm no matter how we tried to adjust his A time. Then he'd struggle to settle at BT. We sort of gave up on the CN, though we tried yesterday he just didn't seem tired. He did okay at BT. We started up with more quiet time after reading his stories (which we used to do but he slowly would need it less and less and tell us he's "all done"). DH did that last night and he only woke once for a minute or two (I went in there to put my hand on him, and he laid back down).

[amayzie]

Ok- so we're sitting here AGAIN with DS after bed time as he had 2 naps- he just can't stay awake in the car!! If he doe do a short morning nap in the car say- should i cap the afternoon nap at 4pm or something? I know- you're thinking Kara 'Didn't i tell Katy about a month ago to go to one nap?' Yes.. yes... i know!

The other question- at mums while i'm at work he will usually do one nap ith her at 11.30 or so- but he often only does 1.5 hours.. is this ok? or is this an OT nap? he rarely does a 1.5 hour nap with me- Ideas?