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Re: Anyone Want To Talk About The 2-1 Transition? Thread #19
« Reply #60 on: October 28, 2011, 19:15:03 pm »
Melissa - I would try for 715/730pm.  I know Alexandra wouldn't go down before 730pm in the same situation :)  I *think* DD is to the point that I need to cap her nap at 2 hrs 15 mins when needed to keep her night longer than 11 hrs.  It really depends on your own DD as to what you do with nap capping... I hate to wake a baby, but there are times it is for their own good ;)

Gemma and Smurfette - I think both of you are best to go with a set nap and EBT when needed too - I suggested it to Melissa, she was skeptical, but look how great Ava has done!  Not to say that she didn't have a rough few days, but it really does work itself out!

I am a HUGE fan of set naps when making a transition or getting back on track :)



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Re: Anyone Want To Talk About The 2-1 Transition? Thread #19
« Reply #61 on: October 28, 2011, 19:16:19 pm »
Hi Kara, I am doing the setnap religiously!  Have been for 8 days now.  Never done a proper EBT always just a CN.
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Re: Anyone Want To Talk About The 2-1 Transition? Thread #19
« Reply #62 on: October 28, 2011, 19:19:13 pm »
Could be a combo with teething. Have you ever done BT that early?  Does he tack on?   It's worth a shot. I am a huge believer in sleep begets sleep. If you can get a longer night (after a rough sleep day) it may allow for a better sleep day tomorrow having him be well rested from the start. You know?  I fought them for a while too cause it wasn't always easy to get her down that early but it really caught her up and knock on everything that is wood it has brought on some good naps. Now if I can get a longer night with a later BT I will be golden lol. I think that is a habitual morning wake time for her now and hoping that changes. Anyway worth a shot next time right?
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Re: Anyone Want To Talk About The 2-1 Transition? Thread #19
« Reply #63 on: October 28, 2011, 19:20:31 pm »
Ahhh, that CN always bites me in the arse!  I was never a huge fan of EBT since I find that DD wakes after the same number of hours as she always has - giving me an EW at a gross time, but since the move to one nap, it works for us too!  Melissa and Sara convinced me to give it a go and it was the best thing ever!

If try to have A down for 1130/1145am and if she doesn't make it 2 hours, I pull BT up to 645 from 7pm.  No more than that though... if she does a really short nap, I have tried a CN and it always gives me a short night!  In that case, we stay in for the afternoon and just do floor play/housework etc to keep things low key to get her to a decent bedtime :)



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Re: Anyone Want To Talk About The 2-1 Transition? Thread #19
« Reply #64 on: October 28, 2011, 19:23:03 pm »
Aahh Kara yes was going to ask you to chime in. You suggesting it to me had changed out world. It's definitely a good way to keep OT under control on the rough days. It wasn't perfect from the start. Believe I had doubts and wanted to try something new yet again but I fought the urge and glad i stuck it out.
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Re: Anyone Want To Talk About The 2-1 Transition? Thread #19
« Reply #65 on: October 28, 2011, 19:26:48 pm »
Never done a proper EBT always just a CN.
Maybe give the EBT a try?  I know how scary it is b/c there is always the fear that they will wake earlier the next day, esp if they don't typically do 12hr nights, but it can really help through this transition.  There is a loss of sleep when dropping from 2-1 naps & of course they are awake for so much longer A times so it can help keep OT at bay, & doesn't necessarily mean they will wake earlier the next day.  And even if they do they will be better rested to handle the next day.  If your DS is doing a really short nap ATM IIWM I would def try 6pm BT.  And keep with the set nap.  It may take several weeks before he settles into the new routine.  I had exactly the same when I tried to go cold turkey, started great then OT set in & we had short naps & EW & I gave in, but I realise if I had a) done an earlier BT and b) stuck to it for more than 12 days, then it probably would have worked out ok.  (((hugs))) hun - you will get there.xxx

ETA - posted at the same time - agree with Melissa & Kara!

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Re: Anyone Want To Talk About The 2-1 Transition? Thread #19
« Reply #66 on: October 28, 2011, 19:31:24 pm »
Yes I too was ready to give in Clairebear. I think it's hard not to. You just want them to get the sleep they need and when they aren't it can drive you mad you know?  You bounce around looking to see what works and although it sort of I'd trial and error the trial really needs to be given a good long chance before deciding it isn't working. It's a rough transition and it needs time to form. It may not take as long as you think either.
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Re: Anyone Want To Talk About The 2-1 Transition? Thread #19
« Reply #67 on: October 28, 2011, 19:36:25 pm »
Absolutely true Melissa!  I remember when I first jumped into this thread a month ago - you and Ava were in quite the mess and look at her now!  She's doing brilliantly!  I had to give myself a break for a day to remember that it takes time and I have to be consistent and patient!

We all have to remember that they will have off days even when they are on a solid one-nap day.  Just compare it to those horrid naps of months 4/5 and it will give you perspective again ;) 



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Re: Anyone Want To Talk About The 2-1 Transition? Thread #19
« Reply #68 on: October 28, 2011, 19:37:10 pm »
Yeah worth a shot.  Just didn't think I'd need it after the catnap.  He still had more day sleep than he was getting last week!
Sometimes he tacks on but other times not.  I am worried as he didn't fall asleep til after 8 and that is normally when we get EW.
I will try it next time, DH won't be happy though!
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Re: Anyone Want To Talk About The 2-1 Transition? Thread #19
« Reply #69 on: October 28, 2011, 19:48:34 pm »
Choc-  Because he won't see him?  Understandable. My hubby hated when he misses her too but I am sure he will understand. It's temporary and it could really help him get the sleep he needs. Also I think the EBT makes for a more restful sleep rather than tacking on a CN which is really broken sleep that isn't as restful you know. If the EBT extends the night they get more of that deep sleep they need to catch up than a 20-30 CN could ever offer. Make any sense?

Kara-  YES. I almost suggested looking back at my desperate posts when I first began in here up until not too long ago if it wasn't solo much reading lol. My first mistake was trying to push for 2 naps when she clearly was ready for one. 2nd as I said not being consistent.
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Re: Anyone Want To Talk About The 2-1 Transition? Thread #19
« Reply #70 on: October 28, 2011, 19:52:51 pm »
I agree with Melissa - I really find that a CN does nothing for them at this age - it takes 20 mins for a baby to get into a deep sleep, so you are generally waking them just as they have settled to sleep - that would make me fairly upset too ;)  I bet you will find that he will tack on lost sleep to his night if there is no CN ;)

As for DH, we have had the same thing here a few times - like now!  I told DH it was too bad for him.  Her sleep is way too important.



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Re: Anyone Want To Talk About The 2-1 Transition? Thread #19
« Reply #71 on: October 28, 2011, 23:01:42 pm »
The EBT are def temporary trust me! I have the worlds touchiest/spirited sleeper and he needed the EBT through the transition. It only lasted a month or so and wasn't every night. Now we do an EBT maybe once a fortnight if he has a bad day with teeth or illness or disrupted nap. The CN can work, but not LT I don't think, they just get ed off ::) We really were having an 11hrish day to start with when we dropped the CN Up at 7am, Nap 11-1.30ish BT 6-6.30pm. I think with EBT it is different than when they were young, they start to work out when WU should be. Zac often stirs at 5.30/6 now, has a chat and goes back to sleep till 7ish. Its like he knows its still night time.



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Re: Anyone Want To Talk About The 2-1 Transition? Thread #19
« Reply #72 on: October 29, 2011, 02:41:54 am »
Well av got her bottle at 7 and in her crib and sleeping by 7:15 maybe sooner. At dinner around 5:30 she was definitely tired which I could not understand but she did fine til 7. So let's see what our wake time is....
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Re: Anyone Want To Talk About The 2-1 Transition? Thread #19
« Reply #73 on: October 29, 2011, 02:58:10 am »
We are headed in the right direction again :)  Phew!

Up at 555am but she dozed on and off until she properly woke at 645am.  Nap 1125 - 210 (I woke her!).  In bed and sleeping at 710pm.  I was afraid she would be UT at bedtime with that monster 2 hr 45 nap, but it must have just been catchup from yesterday's nightmare day :)

Fingers crossed for you Melissa - I will be happy with anything that starts with a 6 tomorrow morning :)



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Re: Anyone Want To Talk About The 2-1 Transition? Thread #19
« Reply #74 on: October 29, 2011, 03:27:19 am »
HHa Kara thanks. Your day sounds much like mine. Curious to see how it plays out. Good luck to you ;)
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