Support for Dropping the Nap age 2-3 Part 4!

[Khalam's Mama]

Personally I can't do a no nap day with a wu earlier than 7.30. With a wu of 6.30 i would be putting K down at 5.30 the very latest. He just can't manage more than 11hrs awake and tbh he is better with 10. we do get 14hr nights with that fortunately but no more than 2 days in a row then we start to get ew (shorter nights)  and I throw a nap in to get back to a later wu.

We eat at 5pm (i'm on mat leave and DH works shifts so either he is home by then or not at all for dinner) here so since I don't do no nap days with a wu before than 7.30 the ealierst he goes to bed is 6pm. It is a rush and if he is really tired I might give him something on his own at 4.30 and just have a snack with him. When I was at work tbh K had his dinner before I got in at 6pm else it was just too late even with a 8pm bt by the time I cooked.

We have a groclock too and it is set according to whether he has napped and BT rather than consistently the same time. If K was sleeping at 8.45 I would be setting it at 7.15 so he would ideally get 10.5hrs at least. If he is sleeping until 6.30 at least I would definitely start setting it later.

good luck Laura.

[scucci1979]

I got myself in a little pickle today. I thought it would be a no nap day but Madi fell asleep at 2pm so I capped it to 45mins.  It is now 8pm and she has no desire of sleeping.  Grrr....

for the future, if she falls asleep at 2pm again, do I cap it to 30mins?

Laura, Madi had a stomach bug on MOnday and is just getting over a cold. Sigh. It never ends here.

I am hoping for at least a 10.5hour night. Fingers crossed ladies.

On no nap days, dinner is about 4:30pm here. On nap days it is 5pm. Bath time starts at 6pm.

Caro1, when is your los b-day. Mine is Nov 11th.

[shresmummy]

Hey sab, sorry in a rush but just wanted to say in my experience capping to 30 backfired on me big time. I would still do 45, but I guess it depends on your lo. We also have the same dinnertime routine.

[barbaraz78]

We are again in less of 10 h nights... I don't know if it is a phase (we started daycare on Monday after being sick, so it can be also adjustment to that in the first week) or he's shortening the total sleep. Naps are still 2 hours, but when occasionally he sleeps less (like 1.25-1.5 h) it doesn't seem to make any difference in the night, so I don't really know. He's much more tired in the evening when he goes to daycare, but I don't know if it could be an OT effect. I have to wait and see to figure out I guess...

[scucci1979]

shresmummy, thanks. I will stick with a 45min nap if it falls at 2pm.

Barbara, I think daycare is playing a role here. I would give it at least one week.

Madi woke up at 6:08am, coughing. Put her back in her bed and I assumed she fell back asleep. she came out at 6:35am.  That was a 10.5hour night.
If she does a no nap day today she will be in bed at 6:30pm, or else I will give her a one hour nap.

what is with these los? Why do wu times vary so much?

My body is now waking up at 6am and I can't fall back asleep as I am listening and waiting for one of my girls to wake up. It is so frustrating. I am still tired. I get drowsy, then I hear a noise and think one of them is up.  Grrr.

[Caro1]

He was up at 6.10 this morning!  That's after a no-nap day and 8pm bedtime (thanks to his meltdown - not our choice!).  What's that all about?!  Have managed to get him down for a nap today so he might catch up a bit hopefully.

Sabs - Ethan will be 3 on the 27th Nov.  FWIW my experience of capping his nap at anything less than 45 mins has always gone spectacularly badly too.  He tends to wake up and be inconsolable for ages afterwards and then still resists bedtime so I just tend to accept we're going to get a later bedtime and let him sleep 45mins to an hour.  Today, I think I'm going to let him have 1hr 15 after his short night (I will no doubt live to regret it  )

[barbaraz78]

Yes, daycare is definitely playing a role. My mum today picked him up after lunch (at 1.30 pm) and she drove to her house: he did not fall asleep in the car (sometime does, sometime not) and my mum says he was happily speaking during the way. Then she put him down at 2 and it took almost one hour for him to fall asleep!!!  And he was tired for sure, as it was up from well before 7 am (although he stayed in bed till 8, waiting for the sun).  Probably he was so OT and so exited for the EW and the morning at daycare that he couldn't really sleep. I think that his bad sleep is due to the excitement to be at the daycare, it should be much more tiring for him than to stay at home and he needs to get use to it.
So... what do I do now? Let him sleep till 4-4.30 (normally he sleeps 2-4) and give him the normal BT at 9, or let him catch up until 5 (he fell asleep at 3), if he sleeps, and going with a later BT at 9.30? Do you think that the last option would give the chance to reset him and bring him to his normal wu time at 8? Tomorrow is Friday so I can let him sleep longer in the morning.

P.S. I also think that in theory 45 min nap would work best, as it is more one sleep cycle. However, I never tried to wake him at this mark.

[scucci1979]

Barbara, I wouldn't personally go later then 4:30pm. Will he go down with an earlier bt?

Thanks ladies for your opinion. 

Carol, how long was his day yesterday?  Madi does max 12hours. I have yet to try 11.5hours. 

I don't know where my 7am wu went. Seriously, she is driving me mad!!!
Normally with a 1hr nap, she can do 6hrs of A time. I thought with a 45min nap, 5hrs and 15/5.5hrs should be enough. I wonder if this morning's wu was an OT wu or due to her cough! 

I am laying down with her atm, hoping she will fall asleep  by 1pm. 

[barbaraz78]

At the end I let 5 pm. I know it's late but my gut says that he really needs to catch up or I only increase OT here. I really hope he can reset tomorrow morning. Hoping the new week goes better!

[barbaraz78]

Sabs I really sympatize with you. When F has ew I also wake up soon in the morning worrying he wakes up early. Mum instinct, I guess...
I am afraid that we have to live with these short nights until the nap has really gone

[scucci1979]

I agree! You know your lo better then anyone.
Madi fell asleep at 1pm.  Going to wake her up at 2pm. Not looking forward to her pesky mood when I wake her.

[Lolly]

Seems like these toddlers are keeping things interesting for us!

DD had an ok night, she woke a couple of times so had a good dose of meds at the first waking in case it was her sore throat. I decided she needed a nap today but she had other ideas and totally refused it. We picked DS up from school, she then had a total meltdown because her dummies were in her bed. I took her up to get one and left her for a couple of mins to calm down - big mistake! By the time I went back to her 5 mins later she was out cold . So she had a 45 min cat nap, I woke her at 4.30 - I think the chances of her going to sleep before 9pm are quite slim! I'm just hoping she will sleep until at least 7am tomorrow!

Hope everyone has a peaceful night and a lie in!

Laura

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