Support Thread for 2 to 1 nap transition cont.

[Nauvoo]

Calebsmummy, the catnap was NEVER like this.  We also had a 30min nap today followed by a very hard to get 1hour after 4hrs A time.  I guess if this keeps up I'll have to move to 20 min just so she'll be tired when the pm nap comes.

 I am completely utterly JEALOUS of my friends here whose LO's take great naps.  They seem to have it way easier (perspective of course).  I know 12 months is young to switch over to 1 nap but I feel it coming at 13 months for sure.  We are counting the days (fingers crossed).

[Flightmommy]

Nauvoo06, i totally agree....12 months is young to do the switch and i never thought we'd be on the early side, but Caleb is showing all the signs. From birth, he's always been a high sleep needs baby and could never do the A times for his age, he easily tired. Now, he's streching out A times like i've never seen and taking looong (cross my fingers) naps and refusing the second nap, so what else can a mommy do? I feel like when I wake him from his am nap just so that he'll have a pm nap, he's super cranky and miserable all day, like i'm messing with his natural sleep pattern.
  On the other hand, i think that going cold turkey and stricly doing one nap can lead to OT, so i'm going to try to mix it up, one nap day, followed by a few 2 nap days then back to one, etc....and see how he does. I guess I just thought we'd be dealing with this much later, like around 15 or 16 months.

[lilisuze]

flight mommy, we are doing this too! I am waking him from nap 1 at 12.15, and hoping we get a pm nap. But maybe i should try stretching out a bit longer so he goes to sleep at about 11.15, then wakes after 1?

[*Jo*]

ok, this morning caleb fell asleep at 2.5 hours A time in the car on teh way to his appointment, nothing we could do about it, he slept for 30 mins as we had to wake him up, then at 3 hours A time (the usual he can stand after a 30min nap) he was exhausted and we were driving home, he fell asleep in the car again and we transferred him to his cot and he slept 45mins! so he was up at 2pm, he was in bed by 6.45pm

Im home tomorrow, i have no idea what to do with him anymore.. his A times are all over the place

[Nauvoo]

Much sympathy sent your way calebsmummy.  I feel exactly the same!

[Nauvoo]

well today was interesting!!!
I have not a clue in the world what time my LO woke up. I heard her about 5am jabbering away but then I didn't hear anything else until she was calling for me at 6:30am.  So I couldn't go on A times and about 9:30am she was a bit cranky so I gave her some milk our of her straw sippy.  She was sitting in my lap drinking it and about half way through she was asleep   Terribly cute!  She hasn't fallen asleep drinking milk in AGES.
I woke her after 30 minutes and after another 3 hours 15min A time I put her down and she slept 2 HOURS!!!!!!  I had to wake her for fear of her not sleeping tonight.  I think it's been about 8 months since we had a 2 hour nap.  Never happens around here anymore.  It really makes me wonder what time she woke this morning?  All the same I'm praying for a good night and a good wake up because we have been getting our fair share of EW's around here and I've not a clue what to do about it.

[hjrmom01]

been a while since I've been on here because of H's teething but I think we're in the thick of the 2-1 now! Done a one nap day about 4 or 5 times now. First 2 times got naps of almost 3 hrs, but then had 3 hrs of screaming/crying NW those nights Gave up on that for a while but we've done a few more. 2 weeks ago he did a 2 hr nap followed by a 12 hr night, Saturday he did a 2hr25 min nap and a 1hr NW but wasn't upset, just awake. Today he did a 2hr5 min nap and we'll see how the night goes.

I guess I'm just bummed that we're only getting 2 hr naps now   He woke at 7:10 this am, 11 hrs of night sleep, so I had him down asleep at 11:50. He did wake at 1hr20 min but went right back to sleep. He was fine all evening, not the least bit cranky! He was asleep at 6:40. Should I have pushed him more this morning??? 

[*Jo*]

Alyssa its hard to say, we always get 1 hr 20-40min naps after that long of an A time too but i know it cant be UT

[Flightmommy]

Nauvoo06, we've often had great nap days like you've had and when I go back to see what that first A time was that made everything so magical, it's often on those days where I don't know when DS woke, so of course, impossible to know how to repeat it again......On the other hand, it's funny how you just went with it, didn't really focus on calculating that first A and got the perfect balance anyways, huh? Go figure...sometimes I feel like we just can't win at this game!!
  After our one nap day yesterday,  which DS slept from 11am to 1:30pm and went to bed at 7pm, he woke this am at 6am...a good 11 hour night, but I thought on one nap that they tend to do longer nights, like 12 hours or even more? I know I shouldn't complain because so many people(including myself at times) get EW's and 6 am isn't that early, but since I get later wakings, around 7:30am or even 8ish, when I do the catnap and put him down at 8pm, it's just so tempting to keep the 2 naps for now.....that is of course, if DS lets me!! lol!!  He fought it hard today, but in the end...I won!! His first nap was from 10:15-12noon, i woke him from this one and then aimed for 4 hours later for his catnap..he wouldn't go at all, just played and played for 40 minutes, then started crying and finally i had to rock him...slept from 5:10-5:40....in my arms!! yes, major APOP on that one!! But even with an early bedtime, DS would have been wayyy OT since he'd been up since 12 noon...it just couldn't give in. He's just now fallen asleep and it's 8:40pm..which i feel is way too late and it took him forever, doing the 7 mile stare, which makes me wonder if he was OT, having been up since 6am......ughh, like I said, you can't win at this game. And of course, as some of you know, DS is famous for his 2 hour middle of the night crib parties when he's truly OT!! Hope he skips it tonight!

[hjrmom01]

Flightmommy, I thought they were supposed to do longer nights, too!  H did a 2 hr nap yesterday and woke EVERY hour last night He settled himself pretty quickly until 4am when I went in and gave him meds and rocked for an hour. He was still up by 6. I don't consider that a good night!

[Flightmommy]

hjrmom01, so sorry about your night...every hour, that's rough! I think that's indicative of pain though, if I remember correctly, and not OT. Hope you have a better day today.
  Well, after going to bed at 8:40pm(due to late catnap5:10-5:40), DS woke at 6:40 this morning.....not so early, but considering the bedtime, thats only a 10 hour night, and with DS that means OT for sure.....even though his last A was only 3 hours, which is usually a good safe A time for us, he still went to bed OT and i'm guessing that it's due to such a long day, 14h40? Do you ladies base it more on last A time for bedtime, or on the entire length of the day, ie, trying not to go over 13 hours? I'm wondering if this could have been avoided if i'd just put him to bed earlier, but then i'm not sure he would have fallen asleep with less than 3 hours A from his last nap, KWIM?? I'm just trying so hard to avoid OT here, especially with the last 2 weeks of illness finally behind us.
 Got to go, i hear DS making a phone call on the house phone.....lol

[hjrmom01]

Flightmummy, I was wondering if it was discomfort more than OT?  He had motrin and tylenol before bed but maybe those molars are just nagging. He's cutting his first one. There's a bit of it through the gum but no where near the wide part yet    As far as going by their day or A time...I generally use A time because I don't usually count the time when H actually wakes. If he wakes up at 6/6:30 his first nap (if doing a 2 nap day) is still at 10:30 or later. I count his day from when I actually go to him. Don't know if it's right or not!

[Nauvoo]

My LO is teething also.  We have had very little until this point so we'll see how it goes.  I really think it is why she took a 2 hour pm nap yesterday.  She went down after 3.5 hours A time for the night and slept 11 hours. woo hoo!!!

We seem to be in some kind of a pattern.  For the last 6 or 7 days my LO will wake at exactly 6:05am with a loud cry from which she will then keep crying.  And she is the type that will wake up and chat to herself in the morning for 30-45 minutes.  This morning she went back to sleep for 30 minutes when I went into her and lay her down but most mornings we are not so lucky.  I've done W2S a number of times but not for at least 4 months now.  Could this perhaps be a pattern that requires W2S??  Is W2S still indicated for 12 month olds?  I'd really like for her to get past it and don't mind giving it another day or 2 to see if she gets past it herself.  However, whenever I hear her at this time I never go back to sleep even if she does  

[*Jo*]

we are teething here too! we had a perfect day yesterday, 30min nap in the AM and 1 hr 20min nap in the PM (next door neighbours dog woke him up earlier) so it was all good, i think we will try sticking with that for now

[Nauvoo]

yay!! for perfect days.
We also had a great day.  30 min am nap and 1hr 45 min pm nap!!!!  It must be a teething thing because we never get longer than 1hr 15min naps.  I love it!