Support Thread for 2 to 1 nap transition cont.

[rach321]

thanks jaspersmum will definitely give that a try when we get back, although it mean that OH won't see him when he gets home from work but hopefully it won't be for too long then we can shift everything later! Why is this so complicated? I could do without molars cutting through as well - poor little guy doesn't know whether he is coming or going!

[*Becky*]

I agree with Jaspers mum. We went through this exact same EW when DS cut his first 2 molars and it was soooo tough. I tried everything to get him back to sleep pretty much but did not feed. Weirdly the nights I gave him Nurofen before bed he would sleep till later in the am even though it says it only lasts 8 hours - might be worth trying if you have not already. I know how hard it is - I was so sleep deprived at that stage. I also agree that he is probably OT from the long day and when teething even if they do not want to sleep (!) they are usually more tired than normal. We prefer the short am nap and I think that is what most people do with 2:1 but you might find the longer am nap better. We have got to the stage now where if DS has anything more than half an hour tops he will not sleep again and that has been going on for a while. x

[JaspersMum]

We were the same Henry1 before we jumped to one nap, doing a max of 30 minutes in the am.  I couldn't stand the thought of jumping to 20 minutes (unless I did that nap in the car) so went to one nap.

Christmas has certainly mixed things up a bit.  DS has had two nights of going to bed around 11pm so he's very OT and now has a cold so last night when it was back to normal he did not want an early night!  Thankfully he slept through after having lots of NWs between 7.30 and 9.30.  The great thing is his wake up time (and nap time of course) has been pushed past 7am which I'm hoping will remain!! 

[scucci1979]

I hope everyone's los are out of the Ot cycle because of Christmas.  It took my lo a good two days to catch up. 

I have a quick question about one nap.  Today is the first day where I have tried one nap and my little Madi has slept from 12-3pm. .   I am sure tomorrow will be a two nap day. That is if she wakes up before 7am-is that how I am supposed to do it? If she wakes early, give her two naps?

Normally our day would look like:

wake 7:10am
nap 1 11:40-1pm
CN2 4:50-5:05pm
bed 7:30pm

Today I let her sleep until 7:30am and decided to try one nap beginning at 12pm.  I figure you ladies would have much more experience then I so now I am wondering am I supposed to let her sleep this long for her nap? Will this length take away from her night sleep?

[JaspersMum]

You really just have to experiment Sabrina.  If we are going on the idea that these bubs need about 13-14 hours sleep in a day, then if Madi does a 3 hour nap, then you can't expect more than an 11 hour night.  What is her A time like at the moment?  Sounds like about 4.5/5 so you might need to do a 7.30/8pm bedtime.

I would only give two naps if she is particularly OT.  It also depends on what bedtime you are aiming for.  If she wakes at say 6.30am and you don't mind a bedtime of 6.30pm, then do one nap.  If you want a later bedtime then go with two naps.  That's what I would do anyway.

[scucci1979]

Thanks.  With two naps her bedtime always fell around 8pm.  Yesterday, she woke up at 7:30am, managed her last A well and fell asleep by 7:30pm. Today, she woke up at 7:10am and I put her down for her nap at 11:45am. I am not sure how long her nap was (2.5 or 3hours) as she cried out at 2:15pm and then again at 2:40pm where I found a dirty nappy. By 6:45pm she was exhausted so she was in bed and asleep by 7pm.  I am wondering if I should of did two naps today??? At the moment her A ranges from 4.5hours to about 4hrs and 45min. The funny thing is that when we had two naps she had a 2hour am nap, her second A would be 3hrs and 20min followed by a 15min CN.    Hopefully, she will sleep well tonight! I am planning to follow her cues tomorrow morning. So I may give her a two naps.

[rach321]

OK so we are on Day 1 of not feeding at 5am! We had a few NW last night at 9.30 and then at 3am just went and laid him back down gave him his blankie then he went off to sleep again.  He woke at 5.30am (improvement for us!) so I laid him back down and gave him blankie again and he slept until 5.50am, I figured that was close enough since we are aiming for a 6am wake-up at the moment. He's at nursery today so will probably only take 1 nap which will mean an early bedtime! Will let you know  how it goes!

[JaspersMum]

Rach321 that doesn't sound so bad for your first day.

We got a short nap today which is odd.  Woke at 7.10 after a 11hr 15m night and I wonder if I put him down too late at 12.30?  Only slept 1 hour 20 minutes and woke with a cry but then pretty quiet until I got him up at 2.30pm.  He has a cold and is teething and I didn't give him meds like I usually do for his nap so maybe that had something to do with it?

[scucci1979]

Hope everyone has a good night and lots of sleep.  
Yesterday and the day before Madi managed one nap well. Today was a two nap day. Hoping for a one nap day tomorrow.

[rach321]

OK quick update, he only had 1 nap at nursery as expected so he was in bed by 6.30pm.  He then woke at 3.30am and self settled, woke at 4.30 am self settled again, woke at 5am, hadn't settled after 5 mins so I went in and did PD he resettled and then woke at 5.30am, did the PD again and settled until 6am.  Drove him to nursery and he fell asleep in the car for 30 mins.  Am I doing this right or am I missing something somewhere?

[*Becky*]

Rach - it sounds to me like you are getting somewhere - good for him for resettling
What time did he fall asleep in the car?

[scucci1979]

Ladies, quick question.  For two days we did one nap and Madi seemed to be doing well. On day three, she woke up at 6:30(11.5hrs of sleep) so I did two naps.  Today she woke up again at 6:30am and was in and out of sleep until 7am. I am planning to do two naps today.  Is this the right thing to do or should I go for one nap again?

[rach321]

henry1 - he fell asleep at 7.30 and woke up in nursery car park at 8am which is way too early so I'm guessing that although he was quiet in his room he wasn't asleep.  I'm going to give it a few weeks of this persuading him to sleep until 6am - he's stubborn - just like his  mum!

[*Becky*]

hmm - well yes I would say keep at it for a little while to see if he manages to readjust. Keep us posted. x

[rach321]

Its going in the car that does it - he always falls asleep! If I was at home he would be fine but unfortunately we only have 1 car and I have to drop OH off at station at 7.15am then we drive to nursery for 8am.  Tomorrow is his last day at nursery till next week so hopefully things will start to get on track a bit better!
Hope everyone has a good night.